TrojanMan60563

sounds like you should avoid alcohol huh?

hardasnails1973

oh if you have candida it gives of a form of alcohol. So be careful ..Just kidding. I still think you are treating symptoms of adrenal imbalances which are parasites, auto immune diseases. But getting rid of parasites will releive stress on adrenals and help to rebalance system. So you have been on the right track. When going back to qxci lady keep check on your adrenals because they have been taking a beating as well.. and will affect food metabolism

oaktownboy

what if the phlagil doesn't work? i am running out of ideas...

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

THIS MAY HELP !! Now to get dr to prescribe it is another situation

My doctor had me on oral cortisol for 3 months so that my own adrenal glands could take a nice big rest and recover from the terrible stress they’ve been under all these years. It worked. I began taking these doses as soon as I got home from his office so I ingested 15 mg before bedtime that first day. That night, for the first time in years, I could breathe normally while I slept; I had been suffering from sleep apnea and had also developed "chokes"---each night when I first fell asleep, my saliva would run down and fill my windpipe and I’d wake up drowning on my own spit, coughing and sputtering for 10-15 minutes before my windpipe would fully clear, gasping for air the entire time. The Cortef cured this problem on the first day! My constant foot pain was gone in 2 days. About a month later, I forgot to take my suppertime and bedtime cortef doses; that night I choked again for the first time since I started Cortef

hardasnails1973

Over the Counter remedy: Hydrocortisone Cream 1% - 1/4 teaspoon massaged into the skin daily contains about 10 mg of hydrocortisone cortisone and twice daily would be 20 mg. Based on an article by David Brownstein MD, it is best not to exceed 30 mg of cortisone daily. Cortisone is available as a prescription and hydrocortisone topical creams are available without a prescription. The topical application of a cream will result in absorption into the blood the same as if it were taken orally. Do not exceed 1/2 teaspoon of a 1% hydrocortisone cream daily without checking with a health care professional.

http://www.keephopealive.org/v2002.html alot of reading but it is worth it

oaktownboy

am waiting to see if doc will proscribe me cortef

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

well if he does not then you have an alternative..also every time I stop that maca i go down hill. My thyroid levels actually stabilized on that then on drugs and i felt really good and when I stopped I crashed and went back wards. Reason why iy work is because it feeds your pituitary which balances all your other hormones. I take that stuff and shit with in 1 hour later. I can not explain it ..

oaktownboy

well he just called in the prescritpion so I'm good to go tomorrow

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

So does he know how to use it ?

hardasnails1973

based on the information I have found is start at 5 mgs at 8 am 5 mgs at 2 pm for 2 days then increase to 7 1/2 mgs am and 5 mgs at 2 pm and may be 2.5 mgs at bed time. then increase to 5 at 8,12,4,before bed time. If you take it before you sleep and you have insomnia then cut back dosage to 10 mgs @ 8am 5 mgs 12 pm, 4 pm after 1-3 months you can taper off it SLOWLY DO NOT GO OVER 20 mgs a day. You want cortisol to peak in the morning and then taper as day goes on. The best that is working for me is 10 mgs 8 am 5mgs 12, 5 pm. but again I know where my cortisol levels are. Even given to healthy people at 20 mgs after 2 months there was no adrenal suppression. BUT DO NOT GO OVER 20 mgs a day

oaktownboy

the problem with that is u have to follow the instructions on the bottle they give u cuz if u run out they won't refill on ur revised schedule

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

if they give you a pill you can splice it with a pill cutter that is what I have done. cortef come in 5,10 mgs. DO NOT GO OVER 20 mgs or you will shut down your adrenals !! The idea is to give you just enough to function but to allow adrenals to rest and recover and when you stop the medicine you adrenals will be just like NEW. by splicing it you may get more mileage out of it as well. I cut mine in quaters if i have to. I came this far I am not going BACK.

oaktownboy

my comes in 5mg servings

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

if 5 mgs makes you feel good then you know what it is then goto store and get the 1% hydrocortisone creame and do 1/8 tsp at 2 pm and if you feel better then you are low cortisol levels if it makes you hyper then you have enough.

hardasnails1973

then take 5 mgs in the mornig
then 1/8 tsp of creme at 2 pm
then next day may be add in 7.5 mgs in the morning and 1/8 tsp at 2 pm
when it comes to cortsiol you must inch it up slowly this is why thyroid did not work because adrenals were low and could not trasnfer the thyroid to the receptor sites so it gave you hypothyroid symptoms and lay off computer at 8 pm it wil elp you as well so you can sleep to let your melatonin build up

oaktownboy

well i took 5 mgs yesterday and today and i haven't felt any different

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

Tropicalgirlxx

I can't emphasize enough what a horrible ordeal you have been going through. All of these drugs they are prescribing and all of these tests that end up proving pretty much nothing. How many Doctors have you been too?? I would think that one of these Doctors would have some common sense and admit you and figure out what is going on. If it were me, I would demand to be admitted. It's no wonder why you are anxiety ridden and depressed as all hell. I wouldn't screw with all those supplements. The only supplements that your body truly needs is B12 and Vitamin D (only if you are not getting at least 15 minutes of sunshine a day). All other supplements are crap and if you eat right you get all your necessary requirements from your foods. I would highly recommend an organic vegan, low fat diet. You would be suprised how much damage dairy products and all of this warehouse, factory generated "meat" does to your body. If you get vegetable protein rather than meat protein you will feel so much better. You really need to get to a Doctor that will admit you and get you off all those pills! It's amazing that you ask for a pill and they give it to you (in response to hard as nails post...no offense)....right there tells you they are not very smart. I truly hope you get better and listen to what I am saying BTW...what was that skin test you had?? The one that told you every disease you had?? Curious.
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oaktownboy

skin test? i don't remember having a skin test...i think u mean the QXCI thing me and HAN are talking about..they say i got lyme but i didn't respond to the drugs..but i think he may be on to something concerning the adrenals..we are both pretty fucked up...if i could get my adrenals up my energy would revert back to it's old self..but i mean my body is all fucked up..i have no idea of telling when i will able return to normal, if at all

what's this talk about being admitted? r u talkin about me going to a mental institution?

EDIT: i have a fast temper..i didn't mean to come off as an asshole..i was actually being serious^^^

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

Both the qxci and adrenal tests (year ago) picked up low adrenals. With out adrenals our digestion goes to shit as well as energy, immune system. I estimate that over 1/3- 1/2 fitness people have adrenal imbalances that you can bank on it. Some times no matter how clean you eat does not mean shit if its not getting converted to energy. PRoblem is that there needs to be medical intervention here but drs so not know how to approach this becuase being athletes and not normal people our needs are different then the average people according to blood tests. I appluad his dr for doing the stool test because I think alot of answer can be found there. I think the one test he is doing may incorporate a dhea test and possible a cortisol test as well. I agree with the pills but right now the dr is just buying time till results to come back. The drs wanted me on paxil and I told them to shove it up there ass and walked out. paxil is just a bandaid method becuae they do not know what else to do and so many people believe in what they are told by dr. If I did this I would be dead by now. Stess = adrenal imbalance but SOME drs are do not look past the blood test results. My mom cortisol levels were 13 out of 6-22 and she is 70 years old. I told her they were too low and she was having all adrenal symptoms. I put her on MACA and with 4 days her body temperature rose from 97.2 to 97.9 degrees and she had more then plenty of energy. Solution to illness is give the body what it is missing and it will heal it self plain and simple. Justin trust me on adrenal thing that is where your problems lies because you are exactly where I was a year ago, but we will get thorugh this and have an understanding that other people will not be able to comprehend. They can keep suggesting things but untill they expereince first hand. they have no clue what it is like. with the cortef more is not better keep it split 5 mgs 8 am and 5 mgs 2 pm for a few days. it takes 2-3 days to build by then the dr will have a better understanding of the tests and how to approach it. I know the anxiety is not helping but that is nothing that can be controlled because of the imbalances you are expereincing. i know what it is like when you have had your hands tied and waiting game. i do agree a good multivitamin and sun will help even if it is an hour before sunset try to get it in your eyes even if you have to look away. One of the biggest things that helped me is sun gazing at just as the sun rises and an hour before it sets. Believe or not it will help to stimulate your hypothalamus which will stimulate the pituitary gland to help increase hormone production as well. Do a test: push on where your lower chest comes together (just above zyphoid process) and see if it is sensitive. If it is then your thymus is weak and immune system is really low. My chiropractor brought this to my attention and I almost screamed when he pushed on it. But main focus right now is to focus on adrenals and getting them functions. REason you has antibodies on thyrod is becuase of your adrenals imbalances will cause autoimmune disorders (hashimotos, lyme disease). Drs have been chasing symptoms and not the cause. As I stated before elevated adrenals will make your body more suspectable to infections (parasites, bacteria, ect). Let half of people continue to go route they are living and in time they will expereince some of the things we have gones through. 2 of my close freinds have gone through same thing luckily i spotted them and was able to correct there problem got worse.

here is a protcol I found for adrenals
vitamin C 1000 mg x 4 times a day
panthenic acid (b5) 1000 mgs 3 times a day
b complex in coenzymatic form sublingual
multivitamin.mineral (minerals in chelated form)
digestive enzymes 2 with each meal
sunlight - 30 minutes as sun rises 30 minutes before sunsets
magnesium chelated 300 mgs 2 times a day
calcium 500 mgs citrate

Ps i had to go see 2 shrinks as well and both of them said I had a good grasp of what is going on and it makes total sense. I evenbrought excerpts from medical journals to back up my claims and even open there eyes to a few things that they were not aware of and are implimenting them in there practice with great success LOL I can be a drs blessing or a worse night mare LOL Everything that I suggest is backed up by clinical documentation so its not just not pulled out my ass. By the way my iq is 140 just people are too stupid enough to look past it.

http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp

I love how people ignore my post but some day this can happen to anyone

TRopical girl you do have some good points but being admitted
I had to laugh my self. Most vegetarian need b-12 and iron as well and most of them lack enzymes to digest protein and are driven to become vegetarians mainly due to stress full events that have happen to them in the past. Thats why vegetarians are higher risk then cancer becuase protein deficiency is number one cause of cancer. Being strictly vegetarian or meat eater both has it draw backs, but balance is the key to successful living. You cooking your vegetables kills all the enzymes in them so vegetarian is just to blame as people that eat meat. Secret to medium is to eat 75-80% raw to 20-25% cooked and then you will see the true health benefits.

Tropicalgirlxx

I meant admitted to the hospital...nothing to do with mental.
I pray for you Justin ....I hope you get the help you need.
hard as nails...read the book "The China Study" by Dr. T. Colin Campbell. Excellent book. Also look up Dr. McDougall. These two Doctors and there colleagues are highly intelligent and have all studied diet and the body for over 30-40 years. You are definitely into your knowledge as I am also. PS my IQ is 139...you got me beat by one point! lol

Monkey Man....be nice! geesh. If you don't agree, that's fine but don't call me crazy for what I believe!!!

hardasnails1973

I tried getting admitted to university hospital as well, but unless you are dying they will not even take you. I have read several good books as well and I am very adept in chinese philosophy as well. I do agree number one cause to diseae is depletion of enzymes in the body and this is the basis of raw food dieting and pretty much the cure for cancer. Back in the 70's the medical community has strong documented studys of how food it self heals the body, but instead tend to push drugs rather then just focus on nutrition. How said it has gotten right. Cancer rate will increase in the next cenury by phenomial rate because of our fast pace lives and the good old american diet. People do not know tha we are born with certain amount of enzymes and when those enzymes are gone the body will then steal enzymes from other reactions neccessary for proper functioning and over time this what we refer to as a disease which could have been prevented in the first place. I will be on a 50-60% raw diet (veggies) for rest of my life along with added digested food enzmyes derived from plants. I eat on excess of at least 20-30 veggies a day if not more (averagin about 5-7 lbs ) plus I also do alot of fresh veggie juices as well. A good example of this would be jack lalane he is a fine example of how enzymes keep you healthy and young looking and how keeping the body in an alkaline state. Not only can the food change our body, but also state of the mind thats why I am trying to get justin into an alpha state by doing mediation and relaxation because you will heal much faster. I beleive this is the basis for anti depressants is that they change beta waves into alpha brain waves when all it really takes is simple 20 minutes 2 times aday to do the same thing. Or what I do is cheat alittle bit and take theanine which keeps on mind in alpha state all day long LOL (common refered to as ingrediant found in green tea). TRopical I have sure we can have some intellectual conersation and would love to hear what you have found as well. There is never a right way or wrong way to doing something, but I love to analyse the reason why people do it and may be it could be benefit me in some way.

hardasnails1973

justin here is my advice
1.try to get as much sun as you can
2. make sure you are eating as clean as you can
3. try to find something to take your mind off of things for a bit (anxiety is causing your body to go more acid and that is not helping) You control the situaton not it control you. I know things are hard but I have an idea things will show up on the test and reveal alot that is going on. State of mind is one of the most powerful healing tool that people tend to neglect.
4. i know this sounds like a curse but you also have to look at as a wake up call as well from man upstairs.

oaktownboy

no parasites..low adrenals

i am on cortef and a creme bought from drug store 1% hydrocortisone cream which is essentially the cream version of cortef and OTC

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

make sure your getting 500 mgs calcium citrate with 250 mgs magnesium citrate with 400 ius vitamin D breakfast, dinner and before bed. With out calcium body can not release adrenaline : ) which we both need..

oaktownboy

it's official..I have a parasite in my system called ameba histolytica

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

oaktownboy

http://gsbs.utmb.edu/microbook/ch079.htm

big props to HAN for giving me this link..this parasite is a slow killer..no shit to take lightly

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.