soxmuscle

I can't believe I missed this. Skimming through the pages, while I am sorry it had to happen to such a good guy, it has to be great as p-funk said knowing that you have pinpointed the problem.

Next step getting rid of it. What measures do you have to take, and what procedures will be done to rid yourself of it?

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oaktownboy

more drugs bruh...more drugs..seeing specialist Thursday

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hardasnails1973

Not to alarm people but over 90% of americans have parasites, but they are in a non pathogenic form, but if we are stressed they change from harmless to nasty little monsters. Alot of people suffer from unexplainable aliments that with out proper further investigation into non traditional medicine they are simple over looked and drs are paxil pushers with out ruling out other causes. Gi specialist are great for looking up your ass and seeing if there is anything strucutural wrong. And if nothing is found it is labeled IBS (DRS DO NOT KNOW) and then you are stuck on paxil. in a conclusive study people with IBS were found to have 70-80% bacterial over growths in intestines and when given proper medicine symptoms resolved in a matter of weeks. Kind of scarey huh. Being stuck on paxil for may be years and it never being the cause but rather a symptom. Drs beleive brain activates gut but in reality GUT FEEDS THE BRAIN !!

oaktownboy

boy this shit is gettin really bad..i haven't bee nable to sleep 1 hour the whole night..my stomach won't stop hurting..

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

oaktownboy

well i have to wait 2 weeks for the Flagyl to clear my stystem before i can more blood/urine tests done..my new doc,nutrionist/parasitology/thinks all the drugs the doctors gave me when i was born to hen i was 1 yeard old has destroyed all the good bacteria in my system and i would slowly have to rebuiold that...this could take months/to maybe years from what i understand,....so i won't be able to do anything for the next 2 weeks except pray for a positive outcome, because it's really not looking good for me

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

Big Smoothy

^ What do you mean, "it's not looking good" for you?

hardasnails1973

justin they can blast probiotics in you faster then you know. some kefir can contain as much as 3 trillion probiotics in natural form. To full repopulate can take little as 3-4 months you just have to have the dr see if they can really perscribe you a probiotics that is strong enough. figure there are 400 trillion organisms in your gut. If you take say 450 billion a day for 30 days that would give you 15 triillion. Trouble is finding if dr can actually prescribe this or not in a medical dosage because it is not a drug. Highest dosage i found was 450 billion for reasonable price I can send you the link or start making own kefir (contains triillions per gallon ) and is reasonable cheaper then probiotics, but have to make it your self for a fraction of the price. By drs treating you for lyme disease it only was destroying your GOOD guys.

oaktownboy

i'm itching all over now..just like i felt back in august 04 when i first got sick..this past week i have felt the worse since the first experience..i am gonna see if the doctor can prescribe me the probiotics right now...fukc waiting 2 gawdamn weeks,..i ain't waiting anymore...

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

oaktownboy

convinced the doc to order the probiotics Tuesday(first availiable business day)...these will be some heavy duty probiotics, not like the kind u buy in the store...the dosage should be in the billions i assume

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

justin if you are low on good bacteria your body makes b vitamins and if you are stressed then these are used at a greater rate. I am starting to see more and more things pop up over looked by doctors just through simple nutritional deficency. I noticed that all of my amino acids are perfect except, tyrosine, trytophan, glutamic acid. So I started researching the relationship to why just these three are low. I found information that pertained to my tongue. It stated that if your tongue is red in the from on the tip and red on the sides then you are at a niacin deficency. Niacin is also needed to metabolize tyrosine to adrenal hormones, as well as digestion and hydrochyloric acid. In respect to looking at the big picture stress will reduce the good bacteria and when you loose good bacteria all b vitamins, vitamin K will be in deficiency. I am going to expereiment in taking 2000 mgs of inosital hexanicate which is a formof niacin that does not cause the flush and is less toxic to the liver. Niacin is also a major factor in liver detoxification as well as all the b complex. This actually makes sense because if you are stress not onyl you lose vitamins produced by the good bacteria but also this would cause your body to increase its need and if it is not met then liver detoxifaction is halted. More so I am looking at the ability to restore my stomach acids to all the other minerals to be absorped.

IMO the bacteria is breaking down your amino acids and turning them into a poison in your body screwing up your liver detoxification affecting adrenals as well as thyroid
Niacin
need to convert glutamine to glutamic acid
creation of sex hormones, adrenal hormones, thyroid
digestion and release of protein from foods (we need that)
formed from tryptophan so if trytophan is low niacin will also be deficeint majority of the time
with out niacin tyrosine can not be converted to make adnreal hormones
Cholesterol production
detoxification from the liver.
calcium metabolism

Update a few hours of taking inosital hexinate
all of sudden out of I had a feeling of enjoyment as well as burst of sexual energy that I have not felt in a long long time. So I think I may be on to something !!

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/s...d.php?t=166547

oaktownboy

what is inosital hexinate?

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

TrojanMan60563

he said its a form of Niacin that doesn't give you the flushing etc. that you get with regular Niacin.


I want to try Niacin, garlic, and a couple other herbs next time I order sups...I think they may be helpful.

oaktownboy

i tried niacin but that made me feel sick

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

niacinaminde (flush free) dosages of 500 mgs 2 -3 times a day can help alot of things.
You may have b vitamins but since your liver is fucked up you can not convert them to the active form so and there for you could be expereincing symptoms of deficeincy even though you are taking them. The flora in the bowel help to convert them to the active form as well as the liver. And if your flora is screwed and liver they are not converting !! Lady suggested to use nutitional yeast flakes which is whole food and loaded with natural b vitamins, and also coenzymatic b complex sublingual works wonders as well becuase it by passes digestive track and conversion of the liver and gut. i am going to call dr and get those probiotics as well. Lady also told me to stop all synthetic vitamins becuae they are only adding more strain to the body...

here is a great recipe i just made and no bloat and loaded in a shit load of good caloires

1 TBSP rice protein
1 scoop nutritional yeast flakes - does nt aggravate candida
1 TBSP kelp
1/4 cup buck wheat
1 TBSP flax
1 TBSP lechithan

some cinamon with some sea salt

came out to be 30 grams protein
36 grams carbs
6 grams fiber
15 grams fat

all organic food and will have it 3 times a day !! its a addiciting

oaktownboy

will get the probiotics by Friday at the latest

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hardasnails1973

i found this interesting

Pantothenic acid (Vitamin B5) is needed for the breakdown of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Pantothenic acid is part of the vitamin B complex and plays a number of essential metabolic roles in the human body, including some of those related to the production of adrenal gland hormones and the production of energy. It has become increasingly popular as a nutritional supplement, widely used for its alleged abilities to boost energy, increase athletic performance, alleviate arthritis, restore color and luster to hair and, in general, rejuvenate. Deficiencies in humans can result in abdominal distress, vomiting, cramps, burning pain in the heels, "burning feet syndrome", fatigue, insomnia, constipation, loss of appetite. Signs of reduced immunity to some infectious agents have also been noted in pantothenate deficiency.

However few problems have been found that are due to a lack of pantothenic acid alone. A lack of one B vitamin usually goes along with a lack of others, so pantothenic acid is often included in B complex products.

Pantothenic acid as coenzyme A is closely involved in adrenal cortex function and has come to be known as the "antistress" vitamin. It supports the adrenal glands to increase production of cortisone and other adrenal hormones to help counteract stress and enhance metabolism. Through this mechanism, pantothenic acid is also thought to help prevent aging and wrinkles. It is generally important to healthy skin and nerves. Through its adrenal support, vitamin B5 may reduce potentially toxic effects of antibiotics and radiation.

Vitamin B5 has also been used after surgery when there is paralysis of the gastrointestinal (GI) tract to stimulate GI peristalsis. It has been helpful in many cases for people who grind their teeth at night, a problem called bruxism. Other conditions treated by this vitamin are nerve disorders such as neuritis, epilepsy, and multiple sclerosis and various levels of mental illness and alcoholism. Of course, the effectiveness may vary in all these situations according to amount supplemented, length of time used, and individual responsiveness. Sound research to support the use of pantothenic acid in many of these treatments or for its energy-enhancing or antiaging effects is lacking, although some research has shown positive results from the use of calcium pantothenate in reducing arthritis symptoms of joint pain and stiffness.

oaktownboy

i'm not low in mineral/vitamins at this point..right now we are concentrating on all the parasites we found in my GI tract and are hoping the probiotics helps my body kill them off naturally because antibiotics have not worked

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

antibiotics only decrease them !! let me know the name of the probiotics so I can order some. See your situation is pretty self explanatory...mine is much more complexed but the correlation is making more sense and nice part is that the tests are backing it up that I had done and the qxci machine is just verifying everything else and is opening the door to the actually solution. My problem has been result of the parasites and also inability to detoxify benzene which is from gas fumes and this causes depletion of many b vitamins and reduces vital life giving enzymes.

oaktownboy

well now i won't be getting them until Tuesday...fuckin doctors

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camarosuper6

wow.....


Oak, im speechless. I will pray for you. I doubt your a religious person, but Im going to put you in prayer request at church on sunday. Have you ever considered heavy prayer?

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oaktownboy

oh yeh cuz..my mom was raised catholic and my dad is a protestant turned buddhist so i got a lot of religious background..i am praying/chanting doing everything bruh..

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

right there with you !! Every think about trying some creatine togive your energy a boost because stress does deplete ATP your main energy source. With out it we are just veggies LOL

oaktownboy

i didn't think of that..but do i really want to start supplementating so soon>?

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

TrojanMan60563

creatine is something your body already gets from food....problem is most people can't get enough because of how much food you would have to eat....more specifically raw red meat.

I don't feel a creatine product would hurt anything. Its not much different then taking a multi-vitamin everyday.

You may want to consider doing a moderate dose of glutamine as well. It has some benefits to your immune system that you could probably benefit from.

oaktownboy

if there's anything yall should take away from this shit, it's not to abuse ephedra and make sure u r eating plenty when dieting..just do more cardio, but don't out ur body in the state i was in...it will eventually crash..it might be later than sooner, but mark my words, it will

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

P-funk

what made you come to the conclusion that it was the ephedra? Just curious. How much of it were you taking?

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I don't suppose anyone has mentioned getting the levels of the hormone leptin checked? If you have low levels of this hormone, you never feel satisfied and continue to feel hungry and eat. There are individuals who have this problem and have to have shots of that hormone to function normally.

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