P-funk

Man, what the hell. Either you have some strange virus or really shitty doctors (as sad as that may sound nothing scares me more than shitty doctors.). I hope you feel better soon bro.

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oaktownboy

endoscopy said i ws perfectly healthy..which is bs..now i am taking saliva and hair test out of my own pocket..fuckin doctor..don't know shit..anywayz that's where i am now..still out of skool but will have to go back next semester cured or not

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

Cold Iron

fucc thats sucks bro. I know how youre feeling. I was at a point in my life, going through all kinds of examinations and tests etc.. When all the sudden i didnt even care what I had, I just wanted to get diagnosed with something, anything, just to ease the mind and get on with life.

Keep your head up bro and good luck

hardasnails1973

DR need to look for the cause not the symptoms. IF you have a head ache you take aspirin, but is the cause of the head ache aspirin deficiency NO. Majority of drs just use medicine as a band aid. Its all about prescribing drugs and getting a kick back. The dr I am working with s excellent and is a MD DO, but He also keeps an open mind. As long as I can present evidence of what I am suggesting he goes right along and acutall have applied what things I have presented him. I mean we have done ever test and he was the dr that suggested the salvia test and that is where alot of information should up, but not the cause. He wants to eradicate the cause which we beleive is a combination of mineral defciency (ca, zn, iodine) from strict dieting and also a yeast infection which resulted from weaken immune system. Number one cause was stress but was it internal then went mental that we will never know !! Just hang in there. I am also waiting for my hair to grow so I can do a hair anaysis which is covered by insurance

Weight39

Thanks for the update. I was wondering how you were doing.

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Weight39

This may be of interest to some of you: http://www.becomehealthynow.com/freetests/

After the test, you'll schedule a free telephone consultation. A dr. will phone you.

I've completed the test and have had the consultation. All that was suggested to me was stool test. They would then analyze it and look for vitamin and mineral defiencies. Because it $200 or so dollars, I chose not to do it.

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oaktownboy

started accupuncture today and boy did it feel great..needles were very thin so i couldnt feel them at all..afterward when the needles were taken out i felt very relaxed and tired..felt like sleeping..one needle struck me particularly hard. it was one she had placed near my left ankle. she said this was a digestive channel..go figure..she said my body is full of heat and the needles will bring coolness to my body. hopefully the accupuncture will solve my problems--J

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

yeah that one hits me hard as well, plus some times in between the web of the thumb and pointer. Let me guess you had one needle on right and left inner anke, on outer shin, an inch above belly button, right and left hand inbetween thumb and pointer, one on back of each ear on high side, last one right smack in middle of head LOL

Lesson we should learn from this

1) take extra b ,c, and mg, calcium,when dieting
2) caffine wipes out your electrolytes and you have to replace them
3) if not careful your body creates an acidic environment where you are subceptible to virus.
4) be sure to identify symptoms of caffine with drawl (high anixety, elevated cortisol levels, depression, elevation in body temperature at first then it immediately drops)
5) using caffine in moderation is fine but it will strip you of several vitamins and minerals causing many symptoms of other disaeases which will drive cause you more stress trying to figure things out.
6) when using caffine please use an adrenal cortex, or adrenal glandular to help support adrenal glands. Caffine puts a whipping on them and if goes on for to long can cause gastro, nervous, horonal impaction that I found out to be devasting.
7) MARK MY WORD THIS WILL BE HAPPENING TO ALOT MORE PEOPLE AS OF NOW THERE HAVE BEEN 3 THAT IT HAS IMPACTED SO FAR AND MANY MORE I AM SURE ARE SUFFERING FROM NOT THE FULL BLOWN EFFECT, BUT IN TIME IF PRECAUTIONS ARE NOT TAKEN IT WILL HAPPEN.

People on thyroid medicine and are not doing well better have a 24 hour adrenal test done to see where cortisol levels are. I was bed ridden for 4 days becuase dr upped thyroid will out adrenal support. I even got symptoms of addsions disease becuase of it !!

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YOu are going to see alot more people fall from this condition and the medical community will not recognize it unless they have "tests" to prove it. And then you are either "in the range or out of range" depending on where you fall. Thats why I like my GP so much he throws away test and treats you on how you feel but uses tests as a tool rather then what his final decision is made from.

oaktownboy

not feelin much better..am i takin adrenal cortex to raise levels and supergreen formula to eliminate heavy metals but i still feel like crap and at this stage i am pretty hopeless..i really dont know what else to do

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

oaktownboy

oh yeh i forgot to say i am takin large amounts of niacin to flush out the toxins..

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

BoneCrusher

OTB I don't know my ass from my elbow here But I will say good luck man. I've read through this thread and thought as I read "Man this dude is one tough SOB". Staying functional as you deal with this takes balls! You have my respect ...

oaktownboy

thanks cuz...u dont know how many times ive come real close to blowin my brains out with one of my dads guns..shit is crazy.i never have any energy..doctor thinks i am fine..MAYBE I DIDNT STATE THIS WELL ENUFF BUT IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WITH ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS OR HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR ME, PLEASE POST THEM.

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

been there bro nothing you can control if you are lacking something neurologically. I was found to have low trytophan levels which was affecting my chemistry becuase of the malabsorption of the candida and the parasite from sushi. Now i know what the cause is an we are correcting it through nutritional supplmenentation and herbs to kill the shit. From what you are suffering it sounds like you serotioninn levels may be low from all of the dieting you were doing and ver traning your symptoms are identical to mine. Anxiety leading into depression. At this stage your body sucks up b complexes iron A,C,E and then adrenals go ,immune sytsem then your thyroid is next followed by testosterone and then chronic fatique. Get to a alternative medcine person no medical dr will find what you have. I had candida blood test and turned out negative, thats ecuase it was in my tissues not in my blood. 3-4 months from now i would have been dead !! It would have gotten into system and gone to my heart brain kidneys and shut me down copletely. thank god I was persistant and following my instinct or i would haeve died earlier

cman

Seems like you have tried every thing but a Chiropractor. If the docs can't find it and Acupuncture seemed to help, you may have a pinched nerv. My old man used to compete, thought he was indestuctible cause of his huge size. His upper body had alot of mass. He was jumping off of Dock's alot and pinched some nerves, Now 40 years later, it still acts up. He says he will go through times where if he eats more than 2 bites he pukes. he will take 3 hrs to eat dinner, 2 bites then wait 20 min eat 2 bites and so on. then one day he will move a certain way, his back pops and he can eat normal for a while. lasts 6 to 8 months at a time. When he goes to a chiropractor now it clears right up.
Has different symptoms some times. Doc's can't find anything, say he is as healthy as a horse.

May want to check on it. Hope you figure it out bro. ending things would not be the right thing. in 20 years you will think man, I'm glad I hung on. Believe me, I know.
Your stuggling IM bro, Chuck
I will be checking for results, keep us posted. we may all be able to think tank thru this one.

Heavily medicated for your safety.
Medicated Not medicated
Age 40, 5'11" 210lb's

cman

Sorry I missed this post. I believe an alternative med doc is way way better than a reg doc for reasons to long and boring to go into, but this is also another good direction. They do not have their pockets lined with Pharmacy money. They look for ways to enable your body to heal itself, not bandaid it with a 5$ pill you take the rest of your life. Ive tried some of their methods and they have worked well with me.
Especially the garlic drops for ear infections.

Heavily medicated for your safety.
Medicated Not medicated
Age 40, 5'11" 210lb's

hardasnails1973

good point - possible hiatal hernia could be another factor as well..

oaktownboy

well here's an update..i feel worse than eva..stomachache and headache all day long..felt like throwin up...my body cant take much..basically soup ,fruit, sum ice cream..vegetables make me feel worse for sum reason..i just took a urine,blood,and stool test..returned normal...im am basically out of options..tryin to get a stomach acid test to see if i have the necessary components to break down nutrients..im surprised i havent blown my brains out yet...i aint gettin better and it sure doesnt look like i eva will..i keep gainin fat and losin muscle..shit is depressin..oh yeah happy new year..fuck that

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

PreMier

Damn bro. I cant even imagine the shit you must be going through. Im sorry that you arent getting better, and cant find whats wrong. Thats fucked up.

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oaktownboy

thanks cuz..yeah mayne i really dont know what to do...im just eating whatever i feel like i now...the worst part is my dad is givin me straight hell...hes threatin to throw me onto the street if i dont start makin money fast which is pretty hard when sum days i dont have enuff energy to even drive

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

oaktownboy

goin to see doctor in an hour..see what happens...

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

oaktownboy

Well here's what happened....nothing...tests are negative for parasites, pathogens etc..will have to go a GI specialist for stomach acid test..thats right...doctor cant find anything wrong with me...whats new...i might just blow my brains to end this shit..i aint livin the rest of my life sick

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

maniclion

Have you ruled out a pinched nerve as C-Man suggested above? The nervous system can do some crazy stuff, look at how the acupuncture helped out.

"We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Natures inexhaustible sources of energy — sun, wind and tide. ... I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that."
Thomas Edison: In conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone

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seven11

holly shit man i feel so bad for your bro hang in the man, i hope u get better

oaktownboy

ok maybe i should check a chiropractor out..i guess it couldnt hurt anything, except my wallet.

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

oaktownboy

ok well my homeopath has determined i have hashimotos thyroiditis ..my doctor has put me on synthroid 0.05 mg first thing in the morning..dosage will be increased if i dont get netter in 1-2 weeks///hopefully this synthroid will solve the energy and digestion problems

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

P-funk

man this is really great news!! I am so excited for you. You are going to feel so much better. I have a freind that blew out his thyroid after being in a coma. Cytomel is what he takes and it works wonders for him.

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Cold Iron

im really happy for you, i cant imagine how good youre feeling.

Keep us posted....

BoneCrusher

Please do keep us all posted OTB. When you talk about eating a bullet you freak people out. Then when we see no posts from you we all get worried and start thinking you offfed yourself. Stop in and let us know you're still here. It may not seam like much but people you don't even know read your posts and feel your pain ... let us all know whadup.