maniclion

Oak's too tough to actually hurt himself he was just making an expression of how bad he was feeling. Hope the current diagnosis is correct and you can get your ass back in gear.

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Of night and light and the half-light,
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I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly, because you tread on my dreams.WB Yeats

oaktownboy

sum good news..2 days on the synthroids...no more stomach and headaches..this could be a very good sign of things to come..now i need to get the digestion in order and the fuckin anxiety which will not go away..u know the feeling of beong able to breathe in and exhale..i havent been able to do that deeply since last august...hopefully this will correct that problem as well

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

BoneCrusher

Fuckin awesome

thatguy

Great news. Hope it keeps up...

thatguy

I just realized I used the same smiley...

Sorry, BoneCrusher. Didn't mean to steal your thunder.

How about this?

P-funk

good shit man. let the medecine take action. one day at a time bro!!

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hardasnails1973

Congrats bro glad you figured it out !!

oaktownboy

maybe maybe not...i still have problems breathing and i dont know how this relates to my thyroid

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

Rocco32

Hey OTB. Good luck with everything and your doing a great job hanging in there!

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hardasnails1973

thyroid comtrols respiratory rate as well, but constipation can back you up as welll so you got to get things moving when ever constipated really back it presses on diaghram and causes pressure on air supply

oaktownboy

^^interestin...yeh i thought i would never say this but it feels better when i dont breathe..doesnt hurt quite as much

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

oaktownboy

well i've been on synthroid for 2 weeks...today my stomach and headaches have returned in full force..my energy is still shit and im beginning to wonder if its just my thyroid thats fucked up..my adrenals are prolly way off as well and i have no idea where my melatonin and serotonin levels are at either...my memory is shit..it hurts to think..even driving is a nightmare..a few days of the week around bedtime i get this horrible anxiety and i cant stop hyperventilating...i dont get out of the house much..i cant even make the easiest decisions of where to go or eat..its like my body has turned against me

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

BoneCrusher

For me to tell you to hang in there is some how fucked up to me in some way. I'm not you. I'm not living with the shit you are. I've had my own nightmares to deal with ... really fucked up intense pain from a motorcycle crash ... but to say I can relate is also bullshit for the same reasons. My fucked up troubles and the agony you are living with are not the same. But I feel your pain in the words you post and I'd say "Hang in there man" but that just sounds lame to me.

Just don't give up OTB.

Have you got a website or homepage set up? An online journal someone qualified can look at?

mikeruurds

OTB. I couldn't begin to understand how u r feeling.

Just hang in there man. I hope u feel better soon.

oaktownboy

thanks BC that means a lot to me....my memory is so bad im beginning to forget my friends' names...im sure the shit uve gone thru is just as worse with the motorcycle crash...my dad got in a motorcycle accident when he was a teen..and that was when it wasnt law to wear helmets..he ended up gettin a concussion...but yeh ive been like this since august..im missing sum of the best years of my life from this shit

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

hardasnails1973

Oaktown boy this would be my suggestion being on thyroid for aleast 4 weeks if I where you i would want a base line reading of all blood readings. CBC, metabolic panel, liver panel, kidney function , testosterone, cholesterol, dhea, progesterone, pregnolone, full thyroid panel (free t3, t4, t-3 uptake, rt3, antibodies), fsh, lh, cortisol free and total, RBC magnesium, iron levels, phosphate levels, carbonates, SAMME levels (tells if b12 or folate deficency) RBC zinc, copper, selenium, RBC b-12. This will tell you more then you need to know and give you a good starting point to compare in the future

when you get test results back it would be curious to seem if there is too much calcium in blood becuase if I remember right calcium is the gas pedal and potassium is the break. Thyroid control mechanism for calcium levels in the bloood. If your levels calcium levels are high then causes constipation, muscle weakness, anxiety, depressio, nausia, lack of appetite, no desire for protein , elevatedf blood pressure, head aches as well. Again this is just hypothesis. but hypercalcemia could run in conjuction with thyroid disorders because it is the thyroid that control the hormone that lowers blood levels blood levels. Listen to dr becuase hypercalcemia could be a symptom of the thyroid disorder, even though all symptoms are the same. Drs need to get to root of the problem which they have and not treat symptoms. I am going to talk to my ND tommorrow and see if lower my elevated calcium levels would releive some of my symptoms so my adrenals can repair faster with less stress put on them.

Once you get test back then you can compare with this that is how I started putting things together and seeing patterns

http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp

easiest way to determine if adrenals are in play is take temperature first thing in the morning then again then 4 hours later again 2 more time. if temperature stays constant then your adrenals are fine. if it is low in the morning and then rises dramatically and fluctuates through out day then adrenals may need to be addressed. if you feel better before starting thyroid and then notice things getting worse (more headaches, more fatique, cloudier thinking , or symptoms just get worse, ) then adrenals needed to be addressed. This is way you increase dosages slow other wise too fast you WILL crash if adrenals are not operating so your dr is smart at starting lower dosages.

DAcre

You could have a thyroid disorder. get your doctor to check for levels of t3 etc. If your always hungry, you will most likely have a hyperactive thyroid. They can control it to a certain extent, and even if they couldn't control it all they do is nuke it and give you medication such as Thyroxin everyday (Tablet form). Also did you notice that you kept on loosing weight? skin beneath eyes sagging, almost look like as if you've had 10 minutes sleep for a whole week? My mum had this same problem last year, so thought i'd comment.

sara

oaktownboy, Im so sorry to hear about everything you been going through
The only thing I would suggest is dont let it ruin you. You gotta fight it!!!
Take care buddy

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oaktownboy

just take more selennium? seems like a simple solution 2 the problem

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

Taffin

Your problems remind me a lot of my own. I was diagosed with hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid) a long time ago and have been taking Synthroid for a long time. But I still didn't feel totally better. I was still depressed and still had severe gastro problems. My idiot doctor just told me to take Metamucil and then sent me to a specialist who also told me to take Metamucil. I finally went to see a different gastrointerologist who actually knew what was going on and said I probably had Ulcerative Colitis or Crohn's Disease. I got tested and it was revealed that I have UC. There's no cure, but it is treatable/managable (bodybuilder Chris Zaino has it, btw). I was only diagnosed in Feb 04 and spent most of 2004 dealing with it. I had the good fortune to switch to a new doc when I moved back out to California and he has been extremely helpful. Today, I am in remission thanks to medication, working out, and proper nutrition.

My advice to you is to seek a new doctor, particularly a digestive specialist (gastro doctor) and ask him about Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Inflammatory Bowel Disease. You could have one of these and if so, you must be treated or you will never get better. Visit ccfa.org in the meantime to read up on UC/Crohn's. Hopefully you don't have either of these, but if you do, you can beat it (especially with the help of fitness/nutrition).

Take care and I hope you feel better soon.

oaktownboy

yeh my gastro diagnosed me with IBs but all he did was give me zelnorm but that did absolutely nothing...its particulary frightening to think that all my life i may have had a disease and not known about it...

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

Jenny

Oak, I'm sorry you're going through this A lady I know have a really really bad case of candida. She can't eat, she has a really hard time breathing and her vocal cords are full of candida too so she can hardly speak. The candida is in her ears, her mouth, her stomach, everywhere!! She throws up if she eats and can barely keep nutrition shakes down. She's had this since august but is slowly getting better.
Maybe you have candida too? Where do you live? My friend is going to an awesome homeopathic dr in the Chicago area.

oaktownboy

that was one of the original ideas when i first got sick in august..i dunno now..

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

Jenny

Well you should get it checked out. Have you taken a lot of antibiotics in the past?
My friend was so sick she almost died, she has candida in her lungs and it was really bad back in october.

Jenny

Btw, my friends doctors did not diagnose her with candida.. She went to a countless number of doctors and they just didn't know what it was.. Then one diagnosed her with candida and she started her treatment.

oaktownboy

what drugs are they giving her?

Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

Jenny

It's more about what she eats.. Eating things that won't make the candida grow.. Sugar is the worst thing she could ever have, feeds the candida.. there are a ton of things she can't eat.. Not sure what drugs she's taking if any.