Scared Shitless

hardasnails1973 · 10-08-2005, 09:42 PM

I just spoke to him the other day and he had got blood results back that had numerous abnormalities and is being sent to a nutritionist that is very familiar with parasites. I have a good idea that he will get on the right track now because the drs are just so scratching there heads on this one. i am not a dr but his issues needs to addressed by some one that is competant to understand what is going on. Basically he has all his minerals in the blood but for some reason they are not getting pushed into the cells. His cortisol levels are out of the roof but they can be corrected with proper nutrition, stress reduction, proper medication or herbs but that is up to the nutritionist to decide not me. From my experience elevated cortisol/ possible low dhea can cause alot of problems with insulin/blood sugar imbalances,mineral imbalances, weight gain, depression,anxiety, major carbohydrate craving, low testosterone, immune problems, insulin resistance, low thyroid. I am sure you are all familar how cortisol affects the body. I believe he is finally in the right hands with the nutritionist appointed by his dr.

**P-funk** · 10-09-2005, 04:30 PM

well that is good to know. Like I said, it just seems like a lot of his problem may stem from an overload of stress, hence the overload of cortisol in his system.

hardasnails1973 · 10-09-2005, 04:44 PM

yes stress (phyiscal,mental chemical, internally) can cause alot of hormonal abnormalities. By correcting the imbalances it will defineltly help his immune system to balance out and get him back on his feet. What came first does not really matter now, it just needs to be rectified..

hardasnails1973 · 10-20-2005, 08:33 AM

talked to justin yesterday and he finally found some one that was a specialist and was willing to listen to him. As well as phyiscal stress, he is also working on dealing with the mental stress as well with a professional. The specialist he went to did more extensive test that needed to be done. It is just going to take time to heal and he knows that, but in the long run he will be a stronger person for hanging in there and not giving up.

Cold Iron · 10-25-2005, 01:11 PM

any news?

oaktownboy · 11-16-2005, 01:58 PM

alright after a month without any updates i will give u what i got..i am gonna try glutathione IV's and methylated vitamin B shots after it was discovered I am dangerously low in b6 and glutathione, which basically control a majority of processes in the body..since my liver is dead i will also be trying various detox methods on it ..i am pretty much done with the psychologist i have been seeing for over a month because there is nothing else to talk about..i am going to live with my mother in Brentwood which is about 1-1.5 hours from here. The psychologist suggests a change of scenery might do me good.

TrojanMan60563 · 11-16-2005, 07:28 PM

Good luck with all that Oak....I hope you get well. Keep us posted. You'll be in my prayers.

**P-funk** · 11-16-2005, 09:31 PM

good luck with the move oak. i hope it works for you. take care.

soxmuscle · 11-16-2005, 10:59 PM

good luck, justin. reading over these 18 pages, i feel as if the move is exactly what you need, with your mother by your side. get better and keep us updated.

Devlin · 11-16-2005, 11:15 PM

Good Luck Oak. Out of curiosity, what detox for the liver are you looking at? I hope Sam-e and Vitamin E are included in it. Sam-e does indeed work wonders on stopping further liver damage, clearing toxins out of the liver, and helping the remaining healthly liver cells to regenerate. Vitmain E is also a great anti-oxidant and will help the liver too. Keep us posted.

oaktownboy · 11-17-2005, 01:17 PM

coffee enemas for liver detox..today i am just really angry..i keep thinking about the 1.5 years i've missed of my life being sick and not knowing why I got sick in the first place..if i ever get better, i ain't doing the 9-5 route..i'm gonna go for it big..i'm gonna do something big cuz nothing is gonna stop me once i get better

**P-funk** · 11-17-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oaktownboy

coffee enemas for liver detox..today i am just really angry..i keep thinking about the 1.5 years i've missed of my life being sick and not knowing why I got sick in the first place..if i ever get better, i ain't doing the 9-5 route..i'm gonna go for it big..i'm gonna do something big cuz nothing is gonna stop me once i get better

great attitude oak! that is the way to think about it. conquer this and you will conquer anything! Full speed ahead brother.

hardasnails1973 · 11-17-2005, 04:11 PM

Justin
What does not kill us only makes us stronger and wiser. Things in life are done for a reason sometimes we will never know why, but we just have to handle the situation best we can. i am also starting gluthione IV as well for mercury and chemical toxicity as well in a few weeks. If we give the body the proper tools it needs it will be able to heal it self. Some times other aspects have to be dealt (mind and spirit) with before the phyiscal healing takes place unfortunately the general medical community only looks at the phyiscal aspects instead of treating person as a whole.

Dev - Samme converts into gluthione...intravenus gluthione will help clear out toxins as well, in order to detox your body has to have the energy to detoxify. Thats why it is important to be under good supervision before engaging in any kind of detox. If the body is too weak and you start unloading toxins it can cause more problems.

oaktownboy · 11-22-2005, 06:23 PM

did glutathione IV and vitamin b shot today. The glutathione dosage was 500 mgs and will increase by that increment each visit(so I'm told, although at some point the dosage will level off I assume).

oaktownboy · 11-30-2005, 04:23 PM

^^^correction..first dosage was 300 mgs..monday's was 600 and Friday's will be 1200..2000 mgs is the highest it goes to. I am also starting a coffee enema for liver detox tonight. Anyone who knows what I am talking about knows that it's uncomfortable. very uncomfortable

camarosuper6 · 11-30-2005, 06:58 PM

more importantly.. how do you FEEL? overall

TrojanMan60563 · 11-30-2005, 10:49 PM

oak coffee is room temp right? Can you use decaf? I am assuming that since meds are absorbed very quickly through the rectum that the caffeine will be as well....that would really get you wired!

hardasnails1973 · 12-02-2005, 08:57 AM

yeah justin just had 2000 mgs gluthathione myself other day, but it was cocktailed with myers cocktail (mineral mixture), b complex, vitamin C. Constipation they may have contributed to more the atkins style diet which has high soluable which is great for cholesterol, but horrible for constipation. Its the insoluable fiber that hydrates colon and gets the back shit out. Fruits and veggies lack insoluable fiber and this reason people complain about constipation on lower carb diets. if one does only oatmeal which is mostly soluable fiber it will bind them even more. I spoke to a GI specialist and they recommeneded fiber content of 40 grams fiber which over 75% of it is insoluable (figs, grains, brown rice,) ever since reversing this my stools have increased in size and are alot easier to move less straining so my body can get the toxins out and prevent reciruclation back into the liver which drains glutathione even more.

oaktownboy · 12-02-2005, 11:25 AM

yeh i was wired as hell after the enema last night.Who knows how far the caffeine went up my body..and I did shit immediately afterward..but I still have these horrible stomachaches. I can't figure out what's causing them. I will continue the enemas for one week then discontinue use.

hardasnails1973 · 12-02-2005, 12:26 PM

enemas should in the morning when you are empty to get colon good is the best so if there is an reaction some sort you can handle it during the day. I still think the source is dealing with the gut and with out knowing which way stomach acids are i can not tell you which way to go with it being high or low. Your body is in stress mode either mentally phyiscallly what ever and needs to be disengaged in order to heal..

oaktownboy · 12-02-2005, 03:25 PM

well i had the 1300 mg IV today and to be honest I am not feeling shit from that or the vitamin b shot..my only option now seems to just pack up and go live with my mother, which is gonna be a very stressful move but I guess I have no choice at this point..Richmond to Brentwood.Anyone who lives in the Bay Area knows how big of a move that is.

TrojanMan60563 · 12-02-2005, 07:44 PM

Oak the coffee enema is what got you wired....I would't brew a strong roast because that is a lot of caffeine for your colon to absorb which is going right into your blood stream. Take it easy and relax...go home and chill for a bit....relax and let your body regulate. Stress can kill...so no doubt it can cause your issues.

oaktownboy · 12-03-2005, 09:25 PM

aite well i am gonna go live with my mother in Brentwood tomorrow...here's hoping the new, clean house gets me back to my old self

TrojanMan60563 · 12-04-2005, 12:12 AM

Oak I have a good feeling about you moving....just take a load off and relax at home...it will do you so much good.

oaktownboy · 12-05-2005, 03:09 PM

well i can tell u right away i feel better being out of that dirty house..but the change is so huge mentally going from Richmond to Brentwood..I am hopingit was just something in my father's house that was making me sick all of these years. I should know withina few weeks I guess. It's tough as well because I don't know how much of this is mental because I still deal with my childhood trauma daily.

**P-funk** · 12-05-2005, 03:10 PM

I hope the move makes you feel better physically and mentally.

What do you mean dirty house? Like never clean?

oaktownboy · 12-05-2005, 03:14 PM

when my prents got divorced in 1998 my father broke down mentally..he hasn't cleaned the house since..so there are cobwebs and dust everywhere

**P-funk** · 12-05-2005, 03:16 PM

dude, that right there would make me sick. I bet after years of living in that environment it has taken its toll on you.

oaktownboy · 12-05-2005, 03:17 PM

good chance

10-09-2005, 04:30 PM	#512
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,790	well that is good to know. Like I said, it just seems like a lot of his problem may stem from an overload of stress, hence the overload of cortisol in his system.
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11-16-2005, 09:31 PM	#518
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,790	good luck with the move oak. i hope it works for you. take care.
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11-16-2005, 10:59 PM	#519
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11-16-2005, 11:15 PM	#520
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11-30-2005, 06:58 PM	#526
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10-08-2005, 09:42 PM	#511
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	I just spoke to him the other day and he had got blood results back that had numerous abnormalities and is being sent to a nutritionist that is very familiar with parasites. I have a good idea that he will get on the right track now because the drs are just so scratching there heads on this one. i am not a dr but his issues needs to addressed by some one that is competant to understand what is going on. Basically he has all his minerals in the blood but for some reason they are not getting pushed into the cells. His cortisol levels are out of the roof but they can be corrected with proper nutrition, stress reduction, proper medication or herbs but that is up to the nutritionist to decide not me. From my experience elevated cortisol/ possible low dhea can cause alot of problems with insulin/blood sugar imbalances,mineral imbalances, weight gain, depression,anxiety, major carbohydrate craving, low testosterone, immune problems, insulin resistance, low thyroid. I am sure you are all familar how cortisol affects the body. I believe he is finally in the right hands with the nutritionist appointed by his dr.

10-09-2005, 04:44 PM	#513
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	yes stress (phyiscal,mental chemical, internally) can cause alot of hormonal abnormalities. By correcting the imbalances it will defineltly help his immune system to balance out and get him back on his feet. What came first does not really matter now, it just needs to be rectified..

10-20-2005, 08:33 AM	#514
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	talked to justin yesterday and he finally found some one that was a specialist and was willing to listen to him. As well as phyiscal stress, he is also working on dealing with the mental stress as well with a professional. The specialist he went to did more extensive test that needed to be done. It is just going to take time to heal and he knows that, but in the long run he will be a stronger person for hanging in there and not giving up.

10-25-2005, 01:11 PM	#515
Cold Iron High $ociety Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ONtario Posts: 1,615	any news?

11-16-2005, 01:58 PM	#516
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	alright after a month without any updates i will give u what i got..i am gonna try glutathione IV's and methylated vitamin B shots after it was discovered I am dangerously low in b6 and glutathione, which basically control a majority of processes in the body..since my liver is dead i will also be trying various detox methods on it ..i am pretty much done with the psychologist i have been seeing for over a month because there is nothing else to talk about..i am going to live with my mother in Brentwood which is about 1-1.5 hours from here. The psychologist suggests a change of scenery might do me good.

11-16-2005, 07:28 PM	#517
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,063 Photos: 1	Good luck with all that Oak....I hope you get well. Keep us posted. You'll be in my prayers.

11-17-2005, 01:17 PM	#521
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	coffee enemas for liver detox..today i am just really angry..i keep thinking about the 1.5 years i've missed of my life being sick and not knowing why I got sick in the first place..if i ever get better, i ain't doing the 9-5 route..i'm gonna go for it big..i'm gonna do something big cuz nothing is gonna stop me once i get better

11-17-2005, 04:11 PM	#523
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	Justin What does not kill us only makes us stronger and wiser. Things in life are done for a reason sometimes we will never know why, but we just have to handle the situation best we can. i am also starting gluthione IV as well for mercury and chemical toxicity as well in a few weeks. If we give the body the proper tools it needs it will be able to heal it self. Some times other aspects have to be dealt (mind and spirit) with before the phyiscal healing takes place unfortunately the general medical community only looks at the phyiscal aspects instead of treating person as a whole. Dev - Samme converts into gluthione...intravenus gluthione will help clear out toxins as well, in order to detox your body has to have the energy to detoxify. Thats why it is important to be under good supervision before engaging in any kind of detox. If the body is too weak and you start unloading toxins it can cause more problems.

11-22-2005, 06:23 PM	#524
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	did glutathione IV and vitamin b shot today. The glutathione dosage was 500 mgs and will increase by that increment each visit(so I'm told, although at some point the dosage will level off I assume).

11-30-2005, 04:23 PM	#525
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	^^^correction..first dosage was 300 mgs..monday's was 600 and Friday's will be 1200..2000 mgs is the highest it goes to. I am also starting a coffee enema for liver detox tonight. Anyone who knows what I am talking about knows that it's uncomfortable. very uncomfortable

11-30-2005, 10:49 PM	#527
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,063 Photos: 1	oak coffee is room temp right? Can you use decaf? I am assuming that since meds are absorbed very quickly through the rectum that the caffeine will be as well....that would really get you wired!

12-02-2005, 08:57 AM	#528
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	yeah justin just had 2000 mgs gluthathione myself other day, but it was cocktailed with myers cocktail (mineral mixture), b complex, vitamin C. Constipation they may have contributed to more the atkins style diet which has high soluable which is great for cholesterol, but horrible for constipation. Its the insoluable fiber that hydrates colon and gets the back shit out. Fruits and veggies lack insoluable fiber and this reason people complain about constipation on lower carb diets. if one does only oatmeal which is mostly soluable fiber it will bind them even more. I spoke to a GI specialist and they recommeneded fiber content of 40 grams fiber which over 75% of it is insoluable (figs, grains, brown rice,) ever since reversing this my stools have increased in size and are alot easier to move less straining so my body can get the toxins out and prevent reciruclation back into the liver which drains glutathione even more.

12-02-2005, 11:25 AM	#529
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	yeh i was wired as hell after the enema last night.Who knows how far the caffeine went up my body..and I did shit immediately afterward..but I still have these horrible stomachaches. I can't figure out what's causing them. I will continue the enemas for one week then discontinue use.

12-02-2005, 12:26 PM	#530
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	enemas should in the morning when you are empty to get colon good is the best so if there is an reaction some sort you can handle it during the day. I still think the source is dealing with the gut and with out knowing which way stomach acids are i can not tell you which way to go with it being high or low. Your body is in stress mode either mentally phyiscallly what ever and needs to be disengaged in order to heal..

12-02-2005, 03:25 PM	#531
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	well i had the 1300 mg IV today and to be honest I am not feeling shit from that or the vitamin b shot..my only option now seems to just pack up and go live with my mother, which is gonna be a very stressful move but I guess I have no choice at this point..Richmond to Brentwood.Anyone who lives in the Bay Area knows how big of a move that is.

12-02-2005, 07:44 PM	#532
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,063 Photos: 1	Oak the coffee enema is what got you wired....I would't brew a strong roast because that is a lot of caffeine for your colon to absorb which is going right into your blood stream. Take it easy and relax...go home and chill for a bit....relax and let your body regulate. Stress can kill...so no doubt it can cause your issues.

12-03-2005, 09:25 PM	#533
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	aite well i am gonna go live with my mother in Brentwood tomorrow...here's hoping the new, clean house gets me back to my old self

12-04-2005, 12:12 AM	#534
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,063 Photos: 1	Oak I have a good feeling about you moving....just take a load off and relax at home...it will do you so much good.

12-05-2005, 03:09 PM	#535
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	well i can tell u right away i feel better being out of that dirty house..but the change is so huge mentally going from Richmond to Brentwood..I am hopingit was just something in my father's house that was making me sick all of these years. I should know withina few weeks I guess. It's tough as well because I don't know how much of this is mental because I still deal with my childhood trauma daily.

12-05-2005, 03:10 PM	#536
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,790	I hope the move makes you feel better physically and mentally. What do you mean dirty house? Like never clean?
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12-05-2005, 03:14 PM	#537
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	when my prents got divorced in 1998 my father broke down mentally..he hasn't cleaned the house since..so there are cobwebs and dust everywhere

12-05-2005, 03:16 PM	#538
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,790	dude, that right there would make me sick. I bet after years of living in that environment it has taken its toll on you.
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12-05-2005, 03:17 PM	#539
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,395	good chance