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Old 08-21-2004, 11:15 PM   #1
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for those that aren't familiar with me, i am having some major stomach/intestine issues. i am always hungry; i had a stomachache the whole day today. i feel like the food goes right thru me. my doctor has run numerous blood tests and still hasn't found out what's wrong with me. he thinks it could be a liver problem, but he doesn't know. all i know is there's no way in hell i'm ever gonna lose weight or compete until i can get my appetite under control. i tried digestive enzymes, appetite suppresants, everything ..drinking 2 gallons a of water a day..nothng helps. Like my title says, at this point i am scared shitless. If my doctor can't firgure it out, i am going in on monday for the last time, i am gonna be in sum serious shit.it's drivin me crazy cuz i know somethin in my body is not workin, my doc can't figure it out.



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could it be a parasite?



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If this doctor can't find the problem and has run all the tests that he can I would still want to see another doctor to make sure that ALL options have been exhausted... there must be a cause for what you are going though.
Hope you can solve the mystery and are feeling better soon!
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If this doctor can't find the problem and has run all the tests that he can I would still want to see another doctor to make sure that ALL options have been exhausted... there must be a cause for what you are going though.
Hope you can solve the mystery and are feeling better soon!
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could it be a parasite?
i was thinking the same thing



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If this doctor can't find the problem and has run all the tests that he can I would still want to see another doctor to make sure that ALL options have been exhausted... there must be a cause for what you are going though.
Hope you can solve the mystery and are feeling better soon!
yeah, i decided that if he can't find out what's wrong with me, i would go to another doctor and or a hospital.



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could it be a parasite?
do u know how i can get rid of it?? do i have to take something?



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sorry man i feel bad for you, and i thought my apetite is crazy, good luck,
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thanks QG



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First you need to know which one it is. There are several different types and different medicine for each one. Doctors can run all the fucken blood test they want it not going to show. Get a stool sample done and relax. I have been dealing with 10 months frm dr to dr so one day is not going to kill you. I have been told that i was crazy to that i was depressed to ibs, to lyme disease to aids, to parasites. Just do a little research like I did and eventually the answer will come to you, just hope it doesn't take 10 months to find out and may be lossing all your freinds, and dropping 40 lbs of lean muscle mass in the process plus missing 3 months of work, not being able to go out with freinds because to tired to get out of bed. THAT IS LIVING HELL ..It was probably something you or may be under cooked meat so chill out and relax. If you immune system is strong enough it will only last a few days and you be back to your normal self, but if you immune system is shot from over use of ephereine, daily stress from work and home. First place you need to look is adrenals bro becuae this is how mine ALL started. SO I am saving you along time of pain and agony. If they can not find any thing GET A 24 hour salvia cortisol test done to ck your levels, that is how I found out it my problem. Drs almost killed me by sticking me on thyroid medicines and upping the dosages with out even checking my adrenals. SO i am saving you thepain and suffering now...if they don;t find anyting go get a stool sample or satart a paracleanse and add some psyllium husk to your diet 6 grams once a day for a week then 2 times a day next week. COLONIX is a great colon and parastie cleaner. I have been through ever cleaning known to human body so if you need help pm me. Bascailly I am saying don;t play guessing games and get to the root of the problem. Over 70 % of illness comes from your colon !! and the main compent is impared adrenals function
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Whats your diet like? Are you eating much fiber?



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feel worse today..ate several myoplex bars, 1 hour after breakfast...went to the docotor and said he overbooked so i am going tomorrow..fuck i hate doctors, i'll take my money elsewhere fuck him..all i crave is sugar.i can't even do the simple stuff anynore..driving has become a challenge and college starts friday..yeah right, l;ike i'll be able to survive that



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Whats your diet like? Are you eating much fiber?
well i eat plenty of yams/oatmeal,veggies



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Maybe it is caused by bulking? People with morbid weight tend to have huge stomach because of eating and sometimes it doesn´t go back to normal. So they have to resolve the problem by surgery.
I guess it is more a psychological thing, that will be resolved with time.
You can start reading about amphetamines, they will reduce your appetite instantly. Of course the side effects are huge and you should read a lot before considering it.
Try the other doctor first. Get better man.
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Maybe it is caused by bulking? People with morbid weight tend to have huge stomach because of eating and sometimes it doesn´t go back to normal. So they have to resolve the problem by surgery.
I guess it is more a psychological thing, that will be resolved with time.
You can start reading about amphetamines, they will reduce your appetite instantly. Of course the side effects are huge and you should read a lot before considering it.
Try the other doctor first. Get better man.
i've been cutting for several months now and it is definetly not psychological..i've had stomachaches all day long for he last several days with severe headaches..go to dcotor tomorrow and hopefully he will give me some meds..or else i might need sum kind of surgery



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another thing..i've been having severe indigestion and gas...



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well guess what? doctor says there's nothing wrong with me. in fact he thinks it's all psychological like vieope suggested. u can't pyschologically give urself a stomachache, can you? he said thyroid is normal, liver a little abnormal but nothing to worry about..nothing coems up on the blood test.he's referring me to a GI specialist. At this point i don't know what to think.



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welcome to the club !! GI specialist then colonscopy then endoscopy then they find nothing and label it IBS. Which is a bull shit term for I don't know. When they tell you the test results are fine THATS BULLSHIT !! get a copy of the test and see for your self. You may be "in range" but for what a sedentary person? An arm chair quater back? . My doctor Want me in the upper 80-90% of thyroid and testosterone, and other specific test. What thyroid tests did they run. If they ran a TSH only that means JACK SHIT !! YOU need to run free t-3, t-4, free t-3, free t-4 rt3, thyroid antibodies. Trust me I know all about this bull shit drs pull. Oh your mine your in range. I demanded to test for rt3 and BINGO it was found to be at top of the range which you DON"T want. RT3 is a worthless t-3 that body can not use and is elevated due to high stress levels, over training, internal stress, dieting, starvation, over use of caffine epeherine extra. PM me and I will show you tons of links to back up what I have been going through and after 10 months 40 lbs less I finally got answers.
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Man, I've had stomach problems off and on all summer. It seems like they didn't start 'til I had an upper gi series in march. I've since had another and nothing's showed up.

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Put yourself in a major medical center/teaching hospital for a day or two of tests. You got to get away from these shit little hospitals and GP practicioners. Fly to the Mayo clinic if you have to. Ya want to know how I helped myself with a terrible chronic pain condition? I picked up a phonebook, and started banging the internet, and found a specialist who could help me.

Thats right, after all the MDs I'd been to Im the one who made the move to help myself. Doctors, most MDs, by nature, dont like farming out their work to others. Its kinda like a car mechanic never wanting to send "his" work to another mechanic. I mean you didnt think they got into medicine for the welfare of humanity do you? They only say that when their being sued.

For the record there are MDs who truly have their patients best interests at heart and DO truly have high morale standards. Ive never really met any but they have to be there.

Oak what Im telling you is to take charge of your health and your life and make your own moves. You are empowered, in control, and you are strong.

Your going to be fine Oak, stop worrying yourself to death over it. Your not going to lose all that weight in a day anyway. Weight loss is a lifestyle change. STOP WORRYING!!!!!!

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had a turkey sandwich..feel like i just got done with a hot dog eating contest..my stomach can't digest anything..all gas and indigestion. PURE HELLLLLLLL



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that is a sign of your body inablility to break down food which could be from severe reason

1) Anxiety from caffine , ephederine, relationships, school, or just even everyday life
2) over training, and ody shutting down
3) low stoamch acids resulting from the anxiety of what you put body into.

Like rich said just try to ignore it other wise you are going to stress your self out and make it even worse then it is. I still think the root of problem from your adrenals wether it be high or low cortisol just have to wait to find out from the test results. And then go from there. If it is high or elevated that is simple to correct relora 3 times a day with 100 mgs phospodystyl serisine 3 times a day with 5000 mgs vitamins C, glutemine, and rest and relax. Listen to medidation tapes before bed. If it is low then just. get a glandular support formula from wilsons t3 therapy I have the link. If you need it. I have a list of alot of natural herbs known as adaptogens that will help correct levels as well. They are actually just as strong as some of the drugs they give patience with no negative feed back loops or leaning off
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I don´t understand how you are always hungry and have indigestion at the same time. It seems to me that your stomach loves the word irony.
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It is the protein that your body can't breakdown. That sort of problem usually begins with a virus that makes you sick for a day or two. After it runs it's course, your GI is out of wack for some time. You need to let it heal. If you want to confirm that it is the protein, do this: starting tomorrow morning on an empty stomach, eat nothing but fruit for 12 hours. Drink only water, and no supplements. Eat all you want, just make sure it is pure fruit, no sugar or oil added. This will strengthen your GI. You keep aggrevating it by trying to force all that protein in. The protein won't digest, so it putrifies--causing gas, bloating, indigestion, etc, and keeps your small intestine from being able to absorb nutrients. This is why you lack energy. I made the same mistake. I refused to give up my protein because I didn't want to lose any muscle or take time off from the gym. I fasted for a day, then ate only fruit for one day, and gradually introduced low-fiber starches and some lean protein back in. It took weeks to fully recover. Let us know how it goes. Your stomach must be completely empty before you eat fruit for a whole day.



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I would try what Pirate just posted. Couldnt hurt.



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It is the protein that your body can't breakdown. That sort of problem usually begins with a virus that makes you sick for a day or two. After it runs it's course, your GI is out of wack for some time. You need to let it heal. If you want to confirm that it is the protein, do this: starting tomorrow morning on an empty stomach, eat nothing but fruit for 12 hours. Drink only water, and no supplements. Eat all you want, just make sure it is pure fruit, no sugar or oil added. This will strengthen your GI. You keep aggrevating it by trying to force all that protein in. The protein won't digest, so it putrifies--causing gas, bloating, indigestion, etc, and keeps your small intestine from being able to absorb nutrients. This is why you lack energy. I made the same mistake. I refused to give up my protein because I didn't want to lose any muscle or take time off from the gym. I fasted for a day, then ate only fruit for one day, and gradually introduced low-fiber starches and some lean protein back in. It took weeks to fully recover. Let us know how it goes. Your stomach must be completely empty before you eat fruit for a whole day.
i'll try anything at this point. had my blood test today, tested for everything and i mean everything: test, t3, t4, thyroid, adrenal, metabolic component, creatinine, urinalysis. I'm also going to take saliva tests to see where my cortisol levels are. I also want to thanks HAN for all the help he's given me. I couldn't have done or learned most of this without him.



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wanna know sumthin that's really scary? my mouth has bumps inside of it and my tongue is turning white..i have no idea in hell how i am supposed to go to school. i might have to take a semester off.



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Thats weird man.. Holy shit.



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update, normally i wouldn't say this, but since it hasn't happened in a while i feel it's important to say it. i actually took a crap today..feel much better. I been eating a lot of fruit and have started taking the supplements HAN recommended:vitmain b stress complex, relora, tyrosine, st johns wort, beta hcl, etc.got my saliva test i the mail today so i will start it tomorrow and ship it back asap. hopefully i will know the results of the blood test soon.



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wanna know sumthin that's really scary? my mouth has bumps inside of it and my tongue is turning white...
Some people w/ acid reflux develop white tongues.

Anyway, glad to here you're feeling better.



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