Thread: Are My Testosterone Levels OK?

how do you get your levels tested?

Went in for physical and told doc to order it from the lab with the other tests. Blood test- seperate vial taken.
OD

I've seen 20 year olds test worse, so its not bad at all. There is a lot more than just testosterone at work though.

Thanks Mudge for the input. I am curious what the testos levels are of some of the top natural bb's and how it vaires with age. I personally think that I can use a lot of the natural BB techniques to stimulate extra fast muscle growth though (like spiking insulin and infusing with lots of protein post workout).


OD

Of all the people I've found that have used real insulin with far more carbs than natural guys have used, there is very little appreciation for it.

Top natural guys? Good luck finding them. I find way too many people passing secrets on passing drug tests, I think most of these guys are of shit.

Mike Ashley was pretty beefy in his day, he claimed to be natural.

To get your testosterone levels tested you have to ask your doctor for a
Total & Free testosterone blood tests so it will be 2 blood tests.

Yeah i thought that was implied in the test and they would do both. The doc told me the test costs like $700. So I am pissed they did not do the free test part.

OceanDude

Yeah i thought that was implied in the test and they would do both. The doc told me the test costs like $700. So I am pissed they did not do the free test part.

No offense but are you insane? $700 for this blood test?

They did mine for free upon my request & the request of the endocrinologist a few years back when they were stabilizing my thyroid.

I had both total & free testosterone blood tests performed at no cost.

Your doctor either doesn't know wtf they're talking about, or they're trying to rip you off big time.

I would go somewhere else to ask about it.

Originally Posted by OceanDude

fairly deep voice

Sorry

Uhm, vieope its not all that funny to warrant a full rofl ... maybe a simple laugh

OD

Originally Posted by Johnnny

OceanDude



No offense but are you insane? $700 for this blood test?

They did mine for free upon my request & the request of the endocrinologist a few years back when they were stabilizing my thyroid.

I had both total & free testosterone blood tests performed at no cost.

Your doctor either doesn't know wtf they're talking about, or they're trying to rip you off big time.

I would go somewhere else to ask about it.

That's waht he told me but I didn't belive him either - since I am self employed i push my deductable very high and most of my checkups and normal doctor stuff comes out of my pocket (but thats the way it should be). I just made the mistake of assuming that they wouyld give me the full battery of testos tests when I asked for it. My mistake now I know better.
OD

OceanDude

That's waht he told me but I didn't belive him either - since I am self employed i push my deductable very high and most of my checkups and normal doctor stuff comes out of my pocket (but thats the way it should be). I just made the mistake of assuming that they wouyld give me the full battery of testos tests when I asked for it. My mistake now I know better.
OD

I don't have insurance, just regular health care & I've never paid for a blood test of any kind, not even a regular check up.

I've had them done all free by my doctor &/or clinic.

I would seriously get another opinion, sounds phony if you ask me.

OceanDude

That's waht he told me but I didn't belive him either - since I am self employed i push my deductable very high and most of my checkups and normal doctor stuff comes out of my pocket (but thats the way it should be). I just made the mistake of assuming that they wouyld give me the full battery of testos tests when I asked for it. My mistake now I know better.
OD

I don't have insurance, just regular health care & I've never paid for a blood test of any kind, not even a regular check up.

I've had them done all free by my doctor &/or clinic.

I would seriously get another opinion, sounds phony if you ask me.

Originally Posted by Johnnny

OceanDude



I don't have insurance, just regular health care & I've never paid for a blood test of any kind, not even a regular check up.

I've had them done all free by my doctor &/or clinic.

I would seriously get another opinion, sounds phony if you ask me.

Health care is a LOT different in Canada genius.

Originally Posted by OceanDude

My lab results come in at 611 NG/DL. I assume that there is some fairly standard expectation of free testos for a given total testos level (?). This result seems to be well into the high side of this range.

I would call that above average for your age, if you want to boost those levels I suggest you try my product: http://ironmaglabs.com/anabolic-matrix.html

works great for older males like yourself!

Premier

Health care is a LOT different in Canada genius.

Premier & his typical boring smart asses remarks

Originally Posted by Johnnny

Premier & his typical boring smart asses remarks

What, you dont believe me?

Premier

What, you dont believe me?

Than I guess what you're saying is that our health care system is better since we don't have to pay for blood work.

Free (unbound) test is a much better indicator of the results you can expect to achieve naturally.

Judging from your lab results, you are fairly high into the normal range which is excellent. I would try some supplements that are designed to raise your free test....for example 6-oxo from ergopharm or like robert suggested, anabolic matrix which should not only unbind your test but should also raise your levels as well.

I really dont think another expensive blood test is needed...not really going to provide you with too much useful information at this point. I would say try the suggested supplements. Lift heavy. Keep your cardio to a minimum to avoid overtraining (which lowers test levels) and make sure you eat alot of protein and healthy fats (which are also very anabolic)...you may also want to supplement with a good ZMA product before bed.

Just some random thoughts....hope they help!

Originally Posted by Johnnny

Premier



Than I guess what you're saying is that our health care system is better since we don't have to pay for blood work.

Nope, thats not what I am saying.. infact, your healthcare system is shit. Thats why you dont have to pay what we do.

Originally Posted by Johnnny

Premier



Than I guess what you're saying is that our health care system is better since we don't have to pay for blood work.

Johnnny, your just a moron. Have you ever actually tried using your brain?

Originally Posted by DrChiro

Free (unbound) test is a much better indicator of the results you can expect to achieve naturally.

Judging from your lab results, you are fairly high into the normal range which is excellent. I would try some supplements that are designed to raise your free test....for example 6-oxo from ergopharm or like robert suggested, anabolic matrix which should not only unbind your test but should also raise your levels as well.

I really dont think another expensive blood test is needed...not really going to provide you with too much useful information at this point. I would say try the suggested supplements. Lift heavy. Keep your cardio to a minimum to avoid overtraining (which lowers test levels) and make sure you eat alot of protein and healthy fats (which are also very anabolic)...you may also want to supplement with a good ZMA product before bed.

Just some random thoughts....hope they help!

Hey thanks Chiro! I have used the 6-oxo product in the past when I was at my peak. I will definately look into something. I was even using daily garlic tablets.

OD

Premier

Nope, thats not what I am saying.. infact, your healthcare system is
shit. Thats why you dont have to pay what we do.

If you think it's shit that we don't have to pay for medical care, I think there is something seriously wrong with you upstairs dude.

Awhile back I had an MRI that would've cost $500 in the US & I had it for free along with my follow up appointment.

So I think the system is pretty damn good.

Along with my Mother who has been in the health care system for the last 20yrs in the hospital full time with Lupus. She only has to pay $1,000/month for her room & care instead of the full cost of the room $3,000/month & additional charges.

rock4832

Johnnny, your just a moron. Have you ever actually tried using your brain?

I am a moron?

I'm not the one who is going to have to pay $700 for a bloody testosterone test through blood work.

Operations (as long as they're not cosmetic), overnight visits in the hospital, delivering babies, Flu & other vaccinations, X-Rays, psychologists, & medication are covered by our health care system.

We don't have to pay for any of it.

So I don't think that is "shit" at all.

I have a cousin in Florida who had to pay $120 for a chest X-Ray as he had a chest infection.

I had one done last year for $0.

Pretty sweet if you ask me.

Originally Posted by Johnnny

Premier



If you think it's shit that we don't have to pay for medical care, I think there is something seriously wrong with you upstairs dude.

Awhile back I had an MRI that would've cost $500 in the US & I had it for free along with my follow up appointment.

So I think the system is pretty damn good.

Along with my Mother who has been in the health care system for the last 20yrs in the hospital full time with Lupus. She only has to pay $1,000/month for her room & care instead of the full cost of the room $3,000/month & additional charges.

rock4832



I am a moron?

I'm not the one who is going to have to pay $700 for a bloody testosterone test through blood work.

Operations (as long as they're not cosmetic), overnight visits in the hospital, delivering babies, Flu & other vaccinations, X-Rays, psychologists, & medication are covered by our health care system.

We don't have to pay for any of it.

So I don't think that is "shit" at all.

I have a cousin in Florida who had to pay $120 for a chest X-Ray as he had a chest infection.

I had one done last year for $0.

Pretty sweet if you ask me.

I worked in the healthfield and one of my projects was comparing the quality of healthcare in Canada to the US. I could argue with you but 1) Your too stupid to learn anything new, and 2) Your not worth my time

rock4832

I worked in the healthfield and one of my projects was comparing the
quality of healthcare in Canada to the US. I could argue with you but 1)
Your too stupid to learn anything new, and 2) Your not worth my time

Cleaning toilets for your local hospital doesn't count as being in the healthcare system.

But my Father has been in the health care system for the last 30yrs doing cancer research & developing drugs.

He's international, he travels everywhere, the US, Europe & the UK so he knows all about the health care system.

As for me being stupid, I don't feel stupid for not having to pay for "ANY" of my medical attention & I don't even have insurance & I still don't have to pay.

So I'm not complaining.

All I can say is I have American relatives in different areas of the United States for the last 30yrs, & they prefer Canada's health system over their own American health care system.

Originally Posted by Johnnny

rock4832



Cleaning toilets for your local hospital doesn't count as being in the healthcare system.

But my Father has been in the health care system for the last 30yrs doing cancer research & developing drugs.

He's international, he travels everywhere, the US, Europe & the UK so he knows all about the health care system.

As for me being stupid, I don't feel stupid for not having to pay for "ANY" of my medical attention & I don't even have insurance & I still don't have to pay.

So I'm not complaining.

All I can say is I have American relatives in different areas of the United States for the last 30yrs, & they prefer Canada's health system over their own American health care system.

LOL, you and your life is sooooo full of shit I really don't think you know what's reality anymore.

rock4832

LOL, you and your life is sooooo full of shit I really don't think you know what's reality anymore.

So you don't believe that my father is an international cancer scientist who's been in the health care system for the last 30yrs?

Sorry dude but it's true. He's at McGill University & has a big job in Ottawa where he met Jeb Bush at a talk & he's been all over Europe & the United States.

As for the health care system, I don't mind having free health care w/o even having insurance.