Suicide

**JordanMang** · 07-31-2006, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Flex

Chemical imbalances are an overused excuse IMO.

there's a difference b/w you not feeling like doing anything while home and being "clinically depressed". Sure, sometimes people just have the blues, that happens to everyone, some more often than others.

But dude, that has little to do with chemical imbalances. I think everyone just jumps on teh "i have fucked up chemical balances" b/c honestly, i think people just have poor attitudes. For instance, there was this kid in the beginnign of the school year who was a lunatic. I mean, this kid would get sent to the IS room (for troublemakers), and he was OFF the wall. He'd always see "i didn't take my meds i didn't take my meds", thus attempting to justify his behavior. Well, one day, i called him out on it right in front of the class. I said "do you just not get any attention at home, is that why you act the way you do?. then i took him aside and pretty much laid it out for him. i said, "listen, you CHOOSE to act the way you do yadda yadda." From that point on, meds or no meds, he NEVER gave me a hard time again.

my point was, before i started rambling, was that people often look for justification as to why they feel or do certian things. So when people feel down, they MUST be depressed, thus they MSUT have a chemical imbalance, thus they MSUT need meds to fixt it. IMO it's all just not seeing the glass half full,and taking what you DO have for granted.

my .02

I agree with this in some ways and in some ways I don't. My family has a history of depression. My great grandmother and grandmother were both given shock therapy for months at a time due to chemical imablances promoting OCD, depression, and anxiety disorders. My mom lives basically on medication. She's come to the point where she has an immunity to most anti-depressants. It's not a joke, but I agree that it's a cop out. My great grandmother went through cancer and therapy at the age of 70 or so, and is now 85 I believe. My grandmother is going to die of emphysema, and my mom will to eventually. None of them have quit. I'm sure they've all thought about suicide, and I know my mom has. All of them are extremely chemically imbalanced, but they're strong women. My dad suffered extreme child abuse as a child, and never made that decision. We all have sorrows and sufferings, but to honestly contemplate suicide is idiotic. I myself am ADD, have depression, manic depression in some forms, OCD, and other "chemical imbalances", but I'm alive. I love life, and while sometimes I do get that numb feeling I know their is no reason to end my life. It's not mine to end. It's a gift and it's a choice. Suck it the fuck up. I have lived through to much to kill myself. And I know I have much more to live through. It's a journey, and I look forward to it.

**SuperFlex** · 07-31-2006, 06:54 PM

Why do we try and save people who want to commit suicide? They're probably fucked up anyway and the world would be better off without them! JUST DO IT!!! You'll only go straight to Hell! The problems you had here, you'd kill yourself to have again!!!

**BraveUlysses** · 08-14-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Why do we try and save people who want to commit suicide?

Why? Because they're people you heartless infidel!

They're probably fucked up anyway and the world would be better off without them!

If thats what you think, then the world would be better of w/o you! We're all fucked up at one point or another!

JUST DO IT!!! You'll only go straight to Hell! The problems you had here, you'd kill yourself to have again!!!

And you'll go to hell for not trying to help them!!!

**Vieope** · 08-17-2006, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by hobojoker

Wow, that was long! Sorry, but this is the first time i've actually talked about my attempt and if you felt like actually reading all that thank you, and i hope you never ever have to feel that way (or feel that way again).

I read it.

**Vieope** · 08-17-2006, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Why do we try and save people who want to commit suicide?

Few people really want to help but I have noticed that a lot of people just dont want to be left behind.
"Are you leaving me in this place? Fuck!"

**viet_jon** · 09-07-2006, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Flex

there's a difference b/w you not feeling like doing anything while home and being "clinically depressed". Sure, sometimes people just have the blues, that happens to everyone, some more often than others.

But dude, that has little to do with chemical imbalances. I think everyone just jumps on teh "i have fucked up chemical balances" b/c honestly, i think people just have poor attitudes. F

my point was, before i started rambling, was that people often look for justification as to why they feel or do certian things. So when people feel down, they MUST be depressed, thus they MSUT have a chemical imbalance, thus they MSUT need meds to fixt it. IMO it's all just not seeing the glass half full,and taking what you DO have for granted.

my .02

it's more complicated than that. if you never been to india, you don't know what the cows look like over there.

same as, if you we're born without genetic problem, you'd never understand what it is like. not everyone is built the same, and the human race is nowhere near perfect.

if you think chemical imbalance is BS, and that people just have a bad attitude towards life, then explain to me how medication works. How does someone feel depressed and anxious, and within half an hour of taking medication, their mindset changes? What has changed here? The situation? The attitude? neither.... the drugs altered the chemical makeup of the brain, which makes that person suddenly feel happy again. Which means that, that person had an 'unperfect' chemical-balance to stay happy on his/her own.

**Trouble** · 09-07-2006, 10:24 PM

Othormolecular medicine has come up with very slick diet and lifestyle treatment for bipolar disorder.

See Keljus thread on acne. Its an interesting story.

The irony here: in Hobos case, there was probably enough Tylenol (paramecetol to the Brits) to cause a bit of a change in the chemistry of the liver and kidneys.

Lifestyle can and often does, control many symptoms of the depressive stages of bipolar disease. Depends on the type, duration, previous treatment history.

To say its bullshit. *shrug* Untreated, it returns, as soon as lifetyle slips, or ignorance takes a hand and diet or drugs turns the chemistry manic.

No comment on the rest of this thread.

PS: Had a friend of a friend who helped himself to my glass art and natural science collections. Fenced it all for pennies. Couple weeks later, depressed, he blew his head off with a shot gun.

Now, last week, I had the unpleasantness of identifying a friend who had been in a car accident. The look on his face said something about the last seconds of is life on Earth when a fucking drunk kid hit him head on at 70 miles an hour. You don't forget shit like that.

What was left of Chris, post shotgun blast, also proved to be...hard to forget.

I hope none of you have to look on such sights. Death, when it doesn't occur in the sanitized environment of a hospital room, if apt to leave a lasting mark on the onlooker.

**DaMayor** · 09-08-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Trouble

I hope none of you have to look on such sights. Death, when it doesn't occur in the sanitized environment of a hospital room, if apt to leave a lasting mark on the onlooker.

I've seen it all.....and no, you never forget.

**oaktownboy** · 09-08-2006, 02:20 PM

to say that there is no such thing as a chemical inbalance is b.s. it is hard to describe it to someone who has never experienced it for long periods of time..u start to have problems communicating to other people...it changes ur appetite. It even screws around with your mind. Some days, I feel dizzy and hallucinate. I get this horrible brain fog and start spinning...i won't be able to think straight and ur in so much pain, all u want to do is make it stop, suicide or not..i don't think anyone who commits suicide should be judged because you will never know how much pain they were going through

**nsimmons** · 09-08-2006, 02:26 PM

Youre not dead yet? Good job.

**Trouble** · 09-08-2006, 04:04 PM

The soul of tact and diplomacy (simmons)

**TJ Cline** · 09-08-2006, 06:39 PM

Words and music by Freddie Mercury

A-one two three four one
Yeah

Okay
Don't do it don't you try it baby
Don't do that
Don't don't don't
Don't do that
You got a good thing going now
Don't do it don't do it
Don't

Don't try suicide
Nobody's worth it
Don't try suicide
Nobody cares
Don't try suicide
You're just gonna hate it
Don't try suicide
Nobody gives a damn

So you think it's the easy way out?
Think you're gonna slash your wrists
This time
Baby when you do it all you do is
Get on my tits
Don't do that try try try baby
Don't do that —you got a good thing going now
Don't do it don't do it
Don't

Don't try suicide
Nobody's worth it
Don't try suicide
Nobody cares
Don't try suicide
You're just gonna hate it
Don't try suicide
Nobody gives a damn

You need help
Look at yourself you need help (yeah, yeah)
You need life
So don't hang yourself
It's okay, okay, okay, okay
You just can't be a prick teaser all of the time
A little bit attention—you got it
Need some affection—you got it
Suicide suicide suicide bid
Suicide suicide suicide bid
Suicide

Don't do it don't do it don't do it babe (yeah)
Don't do it don't do it don't—do it
Hey!
Hey, yeah!

Don't put your neck on the line
Don't drown on me babe
Blow your brains out -
Don't do that (yeah)
Don't do that—you got a good thing going baby
Don't do it (no) don't do it (no) don't
Don't try suicide
Nobody's worth it
Don't try suicide
Nobody cares
Don't try suicide
You're just gonna hate it
Don't try suicide
Nobody gives
Nobody gives
Nobody gives a damn

Okay

**nsimmons** · 09-09-2006, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Trouble

The soul of tact and diplomacy (simmons)

Thats what Im for sweet cheeks.

**Trouble** · 09-09-2006, 09:08 AM

*head snap*

"Sweet cheeks!!??"

**ZECH** · 09-09-2006, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Trouble

*head snap*

"Sweet cheeks!!??"

LMAO................Keeps comment to self!

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