Thread: Blood test results

Did you get a scale on what the target range is for each?

done

Originally Posted by Cold Iron

Ok, just wondering what some of this mean

HDL: .89 |.9 - 1.6|
"good" cholesterol; this number is fine, HDL can be increased with exercise; are your total cholesterol, LDL and triglycerides within "normal"?

Platelets: 138 |145 - 400|
blood clotting; again, fine--other references list "normal" as 130 or 140 to 400

WBC: 4.4 |4.0 - 11|
White Blood Cells; immune system--did you get a differential with this? also fine.

CR: 115 |60 - 110|
Creatinine; kidney function but can be influenced by diet.

UA: 482 |200 - 400|
Uric Acid; again, kidney function, typically associated with gout when largely elevated (yours isn't), its a waste product
The only concern with all this IMHO is that you have elevation of 2 tests of kidney function. Is your BUN normal? Personally, I'd get the test repeated in a few months to compare but your numbers are very close to "normal" so alone they aren't statistically significant, just something to watch.

HCT: .48 |.38 - .490|
Hematocrit; % of red blood cells in total blood volume. this is great.


These are some of the numbers that concern me.
The "normal" ranges aren't exclusive for everyone. All of your results are so close to normal or within normal that I wouldn't worry about it. Kidney levels can be influenced by water intake, diet and supplements so your elevation could be due to that, but you may want to keep an eye on these.

Damn Kimber, that was some good info.

Hear that bro, more water! (less alcohol)

The UA, CR, and BUN can all be thrown off if you are slightly dehydrated, which I usaually tend to be after fasting for the 12 hours prior to the test. Your HDL/LDL risk ratio is more important than your HDL value.

HDL: .89 |.9 - 1.6|
"good" cholesterol; this number is fine, HDL can be increased with exercise; are your total cholesterol, LDL and triglycerides within "normal"?
Yup, they're good.


Platelets: 138 |145 - 400|
blood clotting; again, fine--other references list "normal" as 130 or 140 to 400

WBC: 4.4 |4.0 - 11|
White Blood Cells; immune system--did you get a differential with this? also fine.
I think both the platelets and WBC's are down form the mono I had last yr

CR: 115 |60 - 110|
Creatinine; kidney function but can be influenced by diet.
This high level is from the creatine I'm supplementing with I assume

UA: 482 |200 - 400|
Uric Acid; again, kidney function, typically associated with gout when largely elevated (yours isn't), its a waste product
The only concern with all this IMHO is that you have elevation of 2 tests of kidney function. Is your BUN normal? Personally, I'd get the test repeated in a few months to compare but your numbers are very close to "normal" so alone they aren't statistically significant, just something to watch.
Is "BUN" bilirubin? If so, looks good. 13 --target is <17

HCT: .48 |.38 - .490|
Hematocrit; % of red blood cells in total blood volume. this is great.
oh ok. Looked low to me, I guess low is good


The "normal" ranges aren't exclusive for everyone. All of your results are so close to normal or within normal that I wouldn't worry about it. Kidney levels can be influenced by water intake, diet and supplements so your elevation could be due to that, but you may want to keep an eye on these.


Great info. Thx a lot, kimber

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

The UA, CR, and BUN can all be thrown off if you are slightly dehydrated, which I usaually tend to be after fasting for the 12 hours prior to the test. Your HDL/LDL risk ratio is more important than your HDL value.

Yes, I did it first thing in the morning, so I had not drank any water since the night before

thx pirate

This are common if you were on a high protein diet or a prohormone cycles. Instead of hdl/ldl ratio it may be advisible to look into homocysteine levels which are a better indicator of heart disease then cholesterol ratios. Low HDL are usual associtated with steroids or prohormone cycles. Drs need to look more deeper then just normal test levels becuase there are things that can hide and come out quickly to bite us in the ass and leave drs wondering why. From seeing these results I would highly suggest uptaking your zinc to atleast 15 from multivitamin and another 30 mgs before going to bed as well as adding in a b complex 100 mgs 2 times a day because little do people know that high protein diets tend to alter your homocysteine levels even though that your numbers all look "in the range" it the homocysteine levels that will put you in the grave faster then anything. From now on in blood test I am having them check for zinc plasma levels ,5PLP plasma, homocysteine, ferritin levels as well. These additional tests will give indicatioins of how hard athletes are low and prevent severe reprocussions in the future. Over 70% of elite athletes are low in zinc, and number of athletes are low in b6. Ever hear of ZMA it is a very vital supplement for athletes but the reasoning goes further then just performance. It is also vital for your heart and over all health. Elevated homocysteine levels are common in 90% of america and people do not even know they have them. And if you are zinc deficent then you can not activate vitamin b6 to its active form and then the cascade of events begin from depression to digestion problems as well you will expreince symptoms of b other vitamins even though you have supply of them. This will leave drs baffled I am sure. hope this helps

Cold Iron: BUN=blood urea nitrogen--another kidney test. you're welcome.

hardasnails-- good post, not a lot of people are familiar with homocysteine

PreMier--Thanks

Originally Posted by hardasnails1973

This are common if you were on a high protein diet or a prohormone cycles. Instead of hdl/ldl ratio it may be advisible to look into homocysteine levels which are a better indicator of heart disease then cholesterol ratios. Low HDL are usual associtated with steroids or prohormone cycles. Drs need to look more deeper then just normal test levels becuase there are things that can hide and come out quickly to bite us in the ass and leave drs wondering why. From seeing these results I would highly suggest uptaking your zinc to atleast 15 from multivitamin and another 30 mgs before going to bed as well as adding in a b complex 100 mgs 2 times a day because little do people know that high protein diets tend to alter your homocysteine levels even though that your numbers all look "in the range" it the homocysteine levels that will put you in the grave faster then anything. From now on in blood test I am having them check for zinc plasma levels ,5PLP plasma, homocysteine, ferritin levels as well. These additional tests will give indicatioins of how hard athletes are low and prevent severe reprocussions in the future. Over 70% of elite athletes are low in zinc, and number of athletes are low in b6. Ever hear of ZMA it is a very vital supplement for athletes but the reasoning goes further then just performance. It is also vital for your heart and over all health. Elevated homocysteine levels are common in 90% of america and people do not even know they have them. And if you are zinc deficent then you can not activate vitamin b6 to its active form and then the cascade of events begin from depression to digestion problems as well you will expreince symptoms of b other vitamins even though you have supply of them. This will leave drs baffled I am sure. hope this helps

No Ph's, must be the high protein. I currently take 2 mulit's/day, each contain 10mg, so you think I should supplement with a direct/seperate Zinc supplement?
Yes, I'm well aware of ZMA's but didnt realize they are as benefical as you claim them to be. So would the ZMA be in additon to the b complex and added Zinc?

Would any of these low levels be from the mononucleosis I had last yr?

Great info, as always, hardasnails. I appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Kimber

Cold Iron: BUN=blood urea nitrogen--another kidney test. you're welcome.

so what is the bilirubin then?

thx

high bun = high protein diet or high creatine levels if taking them, in lamens turns your kidneys are trying to assimulate protein waste. What may help here is to the added b-6 from the ZMA to help digest the extra protein. Or what also can help if you take a digestive enzymes mixture with heavier meals to add digestion. Or simple add some bromolaine to aid in the extra protein digestion. Your body has an enzyme bank and once it gets depleted then you run into major problems. Salting foods with sea salts also kicks up your digestive enzymes as well and is probably the cheapest easiest solution. People do not take alot of supplements because you get them from your food. Problems people run into is when they start malabsorbing nutrient due to stressful life styles then one must supplement what they may be lacking.

Rule of thumb : do not go supplementing with huge amounts of vitamins and minerals other wise your going to cause imbalances in other nutrients as well. unless supervised by a trained phyisican for a specific aliment

example
too much zinc cause a imbalance in copper, iron, calcium and blood tests are not accurate means of measuring minerals in the tissue. In order to see what is really going on you need RBC or plasma levels for true nutrient readings. Serum can give indicators, but can be deceptive becuase body has make up systems which will keep certain readings with in a tight range.

multivitain/mineral -lunch time
calcium supplement - another meal
before bed extra zinc if you are taking it. Zinc no more then 40 mgs total unless medically supervised

alot of people take vitamins at breakfast and it is not best to reason being most breakfast will interfer with abosrption of over 50% of vitamins. Alot of people do not know this. Ask your self this "why are people so lacking in certain nutrients, but they take a multivitamin" coffee and oatmeal bind have whats called phylates in them that bind to several minerals and you piss them out never being absorbed. i found out the hard way of this !!

Homocysteine information and you can see how zinc is linked as well as b-6 in the reactions
http://www.upnaway.com/~poliowa/homo...0unveiled.html

article on mineral malabsorption from diet
http://www.theomnivore.com/phytate-and-magnesium.html
http://www.musclephotos.com/minerals.html

article on zinc
http://www.musclephotos.com/zinc2.html
http://www.musclephotos.com/supplemt.html

Originally Posted by Cold Iron

Would any of these low levels be from the mononucleosis I had last yr?

Probably not, maybe could still be affecting your WBC's but that would show up more in the differential (the breakdown of types of WBC's that may or may not have been included in your test). Platelet levels are affected by bleeding most commonly.

Bilirubin is the result of red blood cell breakdown--basically your spleen pulls the heme group (oxygen carrier) off the red blood cell and recycles it and the rest of the crap is sent to the liver where its combined with some bile from the gall bladder and sent to the small intestine where its crapped out. Long story shorter: its an indicator of gall bladder and liver function.

You can get bromelain from eating pineapple.

Originally Posted by hardasnails1973

high bun = high protein diet or high creatine levels if taking them, in lamens turns your kidneys are trying to assimulate protein waste. What may help here is to the added b-6 from the ZMA to help digest the extra protein. Or what also can help if you take a digestive enzymes mixture with heavier meals to add digestion. Or simple add some bromolaine to aid in the extra protein digestion. Your body has an enzyme bank and once it gets depleted then you run into major problems. Salting foods with sea salts also kicks up your digestive enzymes as well and is probably the cheapest easiest solution. People do not take alot of supplements because you get them from your food. Problems people run into is when they start malabsorbing nutrient due to stressful life styles then one must supplement what they may be lacking.

Rule of thumb : do not go supplementing with huge amounts of vitamins and minerals other wise your going to cause imbalances in other nutrients as well. unless supervised by a trained phyisican for a specific aliment

example
too much zinc cause a imbalance in copper, iron, calcium and blood tests are not accurate means of measuring minerals in the tissue. In order to see what is really going on you need RBC or plasma levels for true nutrient readings. Serum can give indicators, but can be deceptive becuase body has make up systems which will keep certain readings with in a tight range.

multivitain/mineral -lunch time
calcium supplement - another meal
before bed extra zinc if you are taking it. Zinc no more then 40 mgs total unless medically supervised

alot of people take vitamins at breakfast and it is not best to reason being most breakfast will interfer with abosrption of over 50% of vitamins. Alot of people do not know this. Ask your self this "why are people so lacking in certain nutrients, but they take a multivitamin" coffee and oatmeal bind have whats called phylates in them that bind to several minerals and you piss them out never being absorbed. i found out the hard way of this !!

Homocysteine information and you can see how zinc is linked as well as b-6 in the reactions
http://www.upnaway.com/~poliowa/homo...0unveiled.html

article on mineral malabsorption from diet
http://www.theomnivore.com/phytate-and-magnesium.html
http://www.musclephotos.com/minerals.html

article on zinc
http://www.musclephotos.com/zinc2.html
http://www.musclephotos.com/supplemt.html

ok, this is getting complicated but that imbalance thing makes sense

I'm currently taking:
2 multi's
3-Glucosamine
3-MSM
3-Chondroitan
2 Vit C
B complex
Vit E
Zinc are 50 mg's, should I break in half?

Why would breakfast foods et in the way of absobtion and not lunch foods?
Is it just the types of foods?

Originally Posted by Kimber

Probably not, maybe could still be affecting your WBC's but that would show up more in the differential (the breakdown of types of WBC's that may or may not have been included in your test). Platelet levels are affected by bleeding most commonly.

Bilirubin is the result of red blood cell breakdown--basically your spleen pulls the heme group (oxygen carrier) off the red blood cell and recycles it and the rest of the crap is sent to the liver where its combined with some bile from the gall bladder and sent to the small intestine where its crapped out. Long story shorter: its an indicator of gall bladder and liver function.

You can get bromelain from eating pineapple.

thx again, Kimber

Bumpidie bump bump

as long there are not many oxalates (spinach, turnups, ect ) or phylates heavy (oatmeal heavy heavy grains ) at breakfast you will be fine. When people take 1-2 cups oatmeal at break fasts they are running risk of not absorbing a great percentage of vitamins. taking zinc 50 mgs before bed is best time to take it becuase it helps you sleep better and promotes serotonin a good idea would be to take it along with b-6 , magesium becuase they all help you get a good night sleep !! do not take calcium 2 hours near zinc or mageium becuase it alter absorption.

up b-6 to 200 mgs a day because it aids in protein metabolism and high protein diets will deplete it faster then any thing. With out b-6 amino acid synthesis comes to a halt.

I would have about 800 mgs of mag glycinate its most absorbable and no diahreaa

I just had a bunch of blood work done myself, lots of things thrown off due to dieting and lifting.