Thread: Kevin Trudeau

Ok, because a friend ordered his entire CD series, I listened to them, and he does not give any cures or "secret information." Alot of what he says is true, but anyone can find that information on these forums without paying 50 bucks or whatever for his 12 cd's.


Although our ability to treat complicated conditions is impeccable, it is only so for those who can afford it. And anyone who can't afford healthcare or has a easily treatable condition is fucked.

^ True. In Canada we have access to a lot of specialists but to see one takes forever. If you don't live in a major city then good luck getting help. When my sister had cancer she went for treatments (chemo) and the place was like a shipping yard. So many patients coming and going, backed up like crazy. She also explored alternative methods but it cost her everything she had and then some. My point is that it may look like North America has made a lot of advancements when it comes to diseases like cancer but in reality Modern medicine still just treats the simptoms and doesn't knows jack shit about a cure. The drug companies are to blaim for a lot it. They make billions off of maitenace drugs like tomoxifen (Novaldex) that are so strong that they kill both the good and the bad cells. The hit or miss concept. I am not saying that all drugs are bad, just that all they really know how to do is destroy the good and the bad cells in hope that the body can repair itself with whatever is left over. The side affects too are sometime worse than the cancer itself. The drug companies have a vested interest in a society that is sick. The thing is that the drugs don't really work for long, more often than not the cancer comes back. Treating the body as a whole, is something that Western medicine has no concept of, it's based around separating everything into neat compartments, or cutting what they don't understand out, too bad are bodies don't work that way.

thanks for sharing guys.

Bigdyl- I hear what you are saying. I was just more interested in his claims of having the cure for diseases like cancer and aids. I only glanced over the book and have heard interviews with him. What does he exactly say about things like this? I just can't see the cure for diseases like this, that affect so many, going "unanounced" simply because the american drug companies can't make money off of it.

have either of you used any of the ideas in the book and had success? Anyone else?

I believe anything nature can cause, nature can remedy... As medicine advances they are turning to nature. Just as we can't make a vitamin as quality as the nutrients found in natures foods, we can't make a medicine like nature can... I believe they're out there. I also believe many are known... Money makes the world go round they say! All I know is if you look at the simple things for examples, you can see how more complicated things may be worked out as well. For example, I'm on a body cleanse and my oily forehead and nose are almost oil free. This is just 5 days time... No product I've ever used has done that. I don't get pimples all over or anything, but I get little blackheads. They are going away already... Like I said, if nature is the cause, it's the cure.......

Originally Posted by P-funk

have either of you used any of the ideas in the book and had success? Anyone else?

Many people have been cured of various diseases through nutrition... Magic Johnson is a prime example. He went through diet and exercise as well as medicines. What exactly they were or if they are nature oriented is unknown to me however. You better believe nutrition helped...

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Many people have been cured of various diseases through nutrition... Magic Johnson is a prime example. He went through diet and exercise as well as medicines. What exactly they were or if they are nature oriented is unknown to me however. You better believe nutrition helped...

Magic Johnson was "cured" because he had enough money to get the absolute best treatment that money can buy.

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

I believe anything nature can cause, nature can remedy... As medicine advances they are turning to nature. Just as we can't make a vitamin as quality as the nutrients found in natures foods, we can't make a medicine like nature can... I believe they're out there. I also believe many are known... Money makes the world go round they say! All I know is if you look at the simple things for examples, you can see how more complicated things may be worked out as well. For example, I'm on a body cleanse and my oily forehead and nose are almost oil free. This is just 5 days time... No product I've ever used has done that. I don't get pimples all over or anything, but I get little blackheads. They are going away already... Like I said, if nature is the cause, it's the cure.......

that is a good take on it.

have you checked out the book?

Originally Posted by P-funk

Magic Johnson was "cured" because he had enough money to get the absolute best treatment that money can buy.

Do they think they have selective treatments? I do...

Originally Posted by P-funk

that is a good take on it.

have you checked out the book?

Thought about it. I heard he was questionable as well... He doesn't explain how to treat the issues he promises to in his first book. Rather he keeps constantly repeating himself and says to join his website for the answers. He too, is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$...

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Thought about it. I heard he was questionable as well... He doesn't explain how to treat the issues he promises to in his first book. Rather he keeps constant repeating himself and says to join his website for the answers. He too, is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$...

yea, that is why I think he is an asshole. He couldn't careless about helping people. He is just as bad as the drug companies he speaks out against. It was money that got him in prison in the first place.

Originally Posted by P-funk

yea, that is why I think he is an asshole. He couldn't careless about helping people. He is just as bad as the drug companies he speaks out against. It was money that got him in prison in the first place.

I agree bro. He may be onto something, but if so why not share it? There have to be cures for just about everything. A few exceptions of course, but not what has pledged man so commonly...

No, there are no magic cures, and he reveals none of them in his audio cd's or book.


If there is one thing i've learned, it is that nothing replaces hard work and intelligent operation when solving a problem or achieving a goal. Nothing.

My question is, what allows this gentlemen such privilaged information that thousands of other doctors could not somehow obtain?

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

My question is, what allows this gentlemen such privilaged information that thousands of other doctors could not somehow obtain?

No no, He is saying that thousands of doctors DO have this information. They are practicing with it all over the world. However, in the United States, since perscription medicine is a huge market, the doctors overhead will hear none of it because in the end it doesn't make them any money. He is basically saying that the US is killing its own people so that those in the medical industry can get richer. He said that his book has created controversy and the government had originally threatend to take him to court over it because he they would loose money.

No, I don't believe Tom Cruse can cure cancer either...

But, a few people (lance armstrong) have beat cancer...




I bought his books for my step mom and mom for xmas
but, that was more a way to preach whole foods and a natural diet
(because they of course wont listen to me)


I do like when he speaks against getting most people dependant
on drug programs and the companies and doctors keeping you that
way till you croak

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

No, I don't believe Tom Cruse can cure cancer either...

But, a few people (lance armstrong) have beat cancer...




I bought his books for my step mom and mom for xmas
but, that was more a way to preach whole foods and a natural diet
(because they of course wont listen to me)

Did you read the book at all?

Originally Posted by P-funk

Did you read the book at all?

Yeah, but quickly, it was pretty repetitive


Aot of common sense to the already health conscious person

Did not read this guys books or listen to his CDs. Have not been to his website.

Mercola and others who believe in orthomolecular medicine are moving in the right direction for preventing and treating common chronic disease.

I am slightly ahead of them with respect to deductive rationale (molecular regulation) and advocation of an integrated lifestyle, with attention to factors that are mentioned, but not connected to disease prevention or cure, in the biomedical literature.

Ironically, two key papers published earlier this year, in unrelated fields supplied absolute confirmation of this rationale by explicitly identifying each and every gene effected. It reads like a whos whos list for Hollywood, in enumerating the etiology of chronic disease.

Do I believe what this guys says is true? No. Its not so much that Big Medicine is trying to pull the wool over the publics eyes...

Its that there is so much fricking material published, that the "forest and trees" adage holds true.

Do I believe that there are strategies that can help reverse the molecular cascade of conjoint causes and impair natural system controls and healing processes?

Yes. I know, because I've investigated some of them; others, I'm seeing overt evidence of the literature that suggests potential for reversal.

Chronic GI disease, inflammatory and cardiovascular conditions, yes.

HIV, Herpes, HPV and uncontrolled cellular proliferation / tumor formation?

A careful maybee on the tight control of expression of viral diseases (not the static condition engendered by current treatment modalities), and a qualified yes on angiogenesis reversal and tumor apoptotic initiation.

Biggest problem we face: these chronic diseases are relatively easy to avoid if a healthy lifestyle is adopted and followed. Modern medicine actively encourages a transfer of fiscal, legal and social / personal responsibility from the individual to the public health sector.

This is wrong. It sends the wrong message to the public and to the various money making industries that indirectly benefit from eroding public health.

Ironically, were I to stand here and enumerate, point by point, the lifestyle changes necessary to avoid and correct chronic disease - who the fuck would listen?

The purvasive mentality is do whatever the hell you want, and let big medicine fix it with a pill later on.

Originally Posted by Trouble

Ironically, were I to stand here and enumerate, point by point, the lifestyle changes necessary to avoid and correct chronic disease - who the fuck would listen?

Me and fufu would.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Me and fufu would.

fufu and I,

I appreciate and thank-you for the vote of confidence, guys.

(*purring*)

You interesting in joining the Kiki Meow club? You can be the member of honor!

^ honorable member.

*purring louder*

Thank-you for the honor.

(did you know, the avatar I have on Mind and Muscle is a image of a woman named Kiki?)

Originally Posted by Trouble

*purring louder*

Thank-you for the honor.

(did you know, the avatar I have on Mind and Muscle is a image of a woman named Kiki?)

lawl, no I had no idea. See! It is written in the cosmos.

Close enough, all you need is an avatar of a cat (preferably kitten "kiki") to join.

Wow, I just went to M&M forums to see your avatar, and underneath it says, "Cosmic Messenger", now that just seals the deal.