Thread: Piece of my gum fell off??

WTF

Did you eat something that might have injured it?

do you use dip or chewing tobacco?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm go to the Dentist and ask him

Ya WTF was what I said .. I ate some tuna and doritos an hour before it happened

Nope, don't chew tobacco or smoke it .. worst I do is drink once every month or two ..

Planning on seeing the dentist tomorrow. Just seeing if anyone might know something beforehand ..

Poor folate metabolism --> low glutathione production

"A low level of the antioxidant glutathione may be associated with periodontal disease" - impaired immunolocal action, increased pathogen infection in oral cavity.

Decreased taurine and antioxidant (including vit C, glutatione, NAC, vit E, production ---> decreased salivary action and dry eye syndrome --> caries, peridonal disease, occular/visual difficulties.

Thanks Trouble .. lol I sorta understand that ..
Is there anything that I can do?? To fix it an prevent it from going any farther? My dad said it might grow back
Doubtful ..
Randomly two for the last two days I was getting pains through my eyes?? .. I thought I might of been tanning too much .. hmm

You probably got eye strain from spending too much time in the sun. An alternative explanation, one I would be remiss for not mentioning, is that a sharp chip may have damaged a small part of your gum tissue.

A dentist can use a special device to measure gum/tooth gaps and determine if you have an case of developing gum disease.

If this proves to be true, come back here and I will describe simple supplement and dietary changes that will help.

For dry eyes, vitamin E (one 400 IU dose twice per day, with meals) and omega-3 fatty acids (Super EPA/DHA) will help.

If the eye pains persist, see an opthamologist. You can also use NAC (not n-acetyl cysteine, n-acetyl carnitine) drop for blurry visition.

Awesome thanks so much trouble!
I'll come back tomorrow and repeat what the dentist says.
Once again thanks I appricate it!

Just called the dentist .. They don't have an opening until Next Tues ..
Said to not brush it rigrously and if it gets sensitive use sensodyne.

Didn't you just have some form of gum surgery to reduce them and a bunch of work done on your teeth? If there was anything going on, I'm sure they would have noticed and warned you. I bet you just got a sharp piece of food up there and cut your gum.

He's 17, Boilermaker..little young to have been treated for peridontal disease.

If he has been treated recently, it might have been useful to know. If he had dental work done recently, it might have been a bit of tissue that had been damaged and then later dislodged. And yes, you would expect the dentist to evaluate his gum condition if had recent dental visits.

(I quailed at the notion of looking through several hundred of Tom's posts to see if he mentioned similar problems in the past..).

Ya I did just have some cosmetic surgery done .. about 6 months ago now. But it was all done on the upper section on my teeth (Gum surgery to remove excess gum convering the enamel and 4 porcelin veeners). But this happened to the lower part of my mouth, where they never touched. All my check-ups they didn't look at my bottom gums, but you guys make a good point. If there was something there they should of noticed, so that's a bit of comfort that it's nothing serious.

I'm hoping some food jsut got caught there and it got cut ... it doesn't look horrible, you can't even notice it unless I drag my lower lip down, and even then there's no root it's all enamel showing. This just really freaked me out, I 'm scared it might go lower or it might happen to my other eye tooth etc. .. after spending close to 10 grand on my smile I really don't want anythign to mess it up ..

Originally Posted by Trouble

He's 17, Boilermaker..little young to have been treated for peridontal disease.

If he has been treated recently, it might have been useful to know. If he had dental work done recently, it might have been a bit of tissue that had been damaged and then later dislodged. And yes, you would expect the dentist to evaluate his gum condition if had recent dental visits.

(I quailed at the notion of looking through several hundred of Tom's posts to see if he mentioned similar problems in the past..).

It was cosmetic surgery. And my point was, that there have been a lot of qualified people looking in his mouth lately and they would have spotted any type of degenerative gum disease or oral cancer that may have been developing. I doubt there is anything to worry about.

Agreed, Boilmaker. As I said, I didn't know if his extensive dental work of 6 months ago.

Thanks for the clarification Tom.

Any swelling/redness or bleeding?

Wow, this scared the crap out of me.

Nope No swelling/redness or bleeding. There wasn't even blood when it fell off. It is white around the edges though
Sorry about not mentioning my recent dental work. I never thought anything of it since it was on a different section of my mouth.. my bad.
I'm just really hoping I cut it on those doritos and nothing else. I guess I'll find out on Tues. this defintly makes me think twice about eating doritos again though hahaha. (last night I opted to eat half of a layered cake and a litre of ice-cream )

Originally Posted by Tom_B

last night I opted to eat half of a layered cake and a litre of ice-cream

Good lord! This sounds like crisis-mode eating!

Originally Posted by Trouble

Good lord! This sounds like crisis-mode eating!

There will be no levity here. This is a serious situation.

Nah, I don't think this is oral crisis time in Tom's mouth. I think its as Boilermaker points out, a random act of food violence.

The white edge tissue was damaged some time ago.

The boy has a problem with ovearctive gum growth.

The damage probably occured during the last oral exam/ tooth cleaning visit.

The nacho chips probably pinched off and dislodged what had been a "tag", a damaged bit still attached to the gum.

No bleeding when the tissue was dislodged, tissue shows signs of being a old injury (edge necrosis).

(no comment on the dietary issues)

Thanks again for all the help trouble! .. Hopefully it grows back.
LOL .. my dietary issues .. well I spent most of my teenage years worrying about food. Since grade 10 I have no allowed myself to eat crap food. I would have a cheat here and there, but my diet was always spot on. Actually I was a bit obessed/scared and always wanted it as clean as possible.
But just recently I've been deciding that Hey I'm 17 and I shoudl enjoy life and not worry about food 24/7, so I make sure I get my protein and fibre and fish oils and anything else is extra. (surpringly I've gotten leaner than ever eating like this).
So the other night my friends wanted to have a movie junk-food-a-thon. on top of the cake and ice-cram I ate a can of tuna/protein bar/3 cups of fibre one (90G of fibre). The gas that followed made them re-think having another movie night anytime soon!

Once again thanks for all the help and putting my mind at ease.

Originally Posted by Tom_B

Since grade 10 I have no allowed myself to eat crap food. I would have a cheat here and there, but my diet was always spot on. Actually I was a bit obessed/scared and always wanted it as clean as possible.

That's no exaggeration either. He probably has the cleanest diet of any of the journals I've read (except emma-leigh's )

Maybe the increase in calories and his positive body comp response means that he needs to re-evaluate his diet. For cheat meals, more is not better. I agree its possible to be a little too rigid in eating habits. The gas production he mentions is a sign of fermentation excess. With the carbs he was chowing, the resulting short chain fatty acids where of a ratio that causes metabolic problems eventually.

As Tom's friends would wrily agree, gas is not 'a good thing'.

Calories aren't really all that higher. I'm not even 100% sure what my maintenance is .. when I was bulking from 130 to 140 I needed 3800 calories to see a gain of a pound a week. After I reached 144 and tried to get back into the 130's, my body just wouldn't lose weight. I went so low as 1600 but just wouldn't lose (bodyfat was decreasing very slowly though, it was more of a recomp) . Then I went to Toronto changed my eating habits and lost 7lbs in two weeks. T'was weird.
Fermentation? What kind of probelms in the future? ..

Originally Posted by boilermaker

I doubt there is anything to worry about.

His gum fell off. A piece of it is not there anymore.

Tom posted:

"After I reached 144 and tried to get back into the 130's, my body just wouldn't lose weight. I went so low as 1600 but just wouldn't lose (bodyfat was decreasing very slowly though, it was more of a recomp) . Then I went to Toronto changed my eating habits and lost 7lbs in two weeks. T'was weird."


Explanation. You tried to starve yourself You dropped from 3800 to as little as 1600 cals, less than half!

Your body put on the emergency brakes. You went to Toronto, pigged out, refeeding carbs and fat like crazy, and your body said:

"Far fu*king out, man! We got FOOD again! Time to make some energy"

And you promptly lost weight.

The fermentation of higher glycemic, low fiber carbs results in an enrichment of acetate as a fermentation byproduct.

Acetate is taken up in the gut (along with calcium) and converted in the gut lining and liver into glutamine.

Glutamine is transported to brain and kidney, where it is converted to glutamate, for energy and as a potent excitatory neurotransmitter.

In excess, glutamate is responsible for some very unpleasant chemistry associated with chronic disease. It lowers GABA and glutathione, the two guardians of oxidative stress damage control in the body and brain.

Welcome to my world. This is what I study.

A little less is restraint in your diet is laudible, Tom. Too lax, and you will pay an unfortunate price in time.

Originally Posted by Vieope

His gum fell off. A piece of it is not there anymore.

I'm really sorry you have to die.