Thread: tetracycline

Wrong logic.

Why do you have persistant acne? Its a pathologic condition, not normal.

Why do you persist in using an antibiotic when you know it causes problems with intestinal function?

Could there be a relationship between dietary/lifestyle, skin condition, and gut function, with respect to growth and its potential?

Could there be a connection between your injuries, your skin condition, your diet, and your gut function?

Oh, I think so. Don't you?

Originally Posted by Trouble

Wrong logic.

Why do you have persistant acne? Its a pathologic condition, not normal.

Well I don't have persistant acne. I just go through bouts where I would get painful pimples. So I would often just take it when it the problem came up. I figurely my logic could have been likely wrong. I really don't know how it is affecting me.

Why do you persist in using an antibiotic when you know it causes problems with intestinal function?

I did not know it causes problems with instestinal function...

Could there be a relationship between dietary/lifestyle, skin condition, and gut function, with respect to growth and its potential?


Could there be a connection between your injuries, your skin condition, your diet, and your gut function?

Oh, I think so. Don't you?

I really don't know

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Originally Posted by Vieope

im allergic to both tetracycline and minocycline. other than that i cant provide any other help...

Just a useful fact incase the hospital ever calls one of you regarding what medication i am allergic to

tetracycline and other antibiotics in that class can lead to destruction of the natural flora in your gut, which leads to possible Candida/yeast overgrowth..so be careful

*laughing* Vieope, that was pretty funny...however, it wasn't so much for fufu, who is probably very self conscious of these occasional outbreaks.

First off, if you have ever played with diet, and you have a tendency towards inflammation condition in skin, you can induce these eruptions at will.

Meaning, if you induce insulin excess by consumption of a combination of excess fast acting carbs and saturated fats, you can cause the subcutaneous fat cells to release high local excess concentration of triglycerides. These are irritating to sensitive skin; they also active androgen receptors, and this stimuates sebacous gland activity, including cell turnover. This induces pore occlusions. And these blockages cause subsurface rupture of the pilosebaceous (pore and oil gland) structures, resulting in painful localized inflammation, which can become infected.

Dietary fats and insulin induction --> shifts liver lipids ---> shifts fat storage acitvity in adipocytes ---> sensitizes adipocytes to insulin induced fatty acid release ---> induces androgen receptor activity in skin ---> increases skin cell turnover and thickness ---> increases oil gland activity and inflammation response in skin --->increases fatty acid esterification that can cause changes in oil composition (aided and abetted by bacterial action)---> causes whiteheads and oil gland impaction --> causes eruptions

It might be useful to see an example of diet; cheat days, for example. If this is a common occurance, sporadic means that something in diet is sporadic as well. Also, sweat may make the problem worse in summer.

Does this make sense?

Originally Posted by oaktownboy

tetracycline and other antibiotics in that class can lead to destruction of the natural flora in your gut, which leads to possible Candida/yeast overgrowth..so be careful

Correct! Can also cause overgrowth of other minor pathogens that alter gut function, and therefore affect micronutrient conversion (by bacteria), absorption and uptake by gut lining. Thanks, OTB.

Originally Posted by Trouble

*laughing* Vieope, that was pretty funny...however, it wasn't so much for fufu, who is probably very self conscious of these occasional outbreaks.

First off, if you have ever played with diet, and you have a tendency towards inflammation condition in skin, you can induce these eruptions at will.

Meaning, if you induce insulin excess by consumption of a combination of excess fast acting carbs and saturated fats, you can cause the subcutaneous fat cells to release high local excess concentration of triglycerides. These are irritating to sensitive skin; they also active androgen receptors, and this stimuates sebacous gland activity, including cell turnover. This induces pore occlusions. And these blockages cause subsurface rupture of the pilosebaceous (pore and oil gland) structures, resulting in painful localized inflammation, which can become infected.

Dietary fats and insulin induction --> shifts liver lipids ---> shifts fat storage acitvity in adipocytes ---> sensitizes adipocytes to insulin induced fatty acid release ---> induces androgen receptor activity in skin ---> increases skin cell turnover and thickness ---> increases oil gland activity and inflammation response in skin --->increases fatty acid esterification that can cause changes in oil composition (aided and abetted by bacterial action)---> causes whiteheads and oil gland impaction --> causes eruptions

It might be useful to see an example of diet; cheat days, for example. If this is a common occurance, sporadic means that something in diet is sporadic as well. Also, sweat may make the problem worse in summer.

Does this make sense?

I think so, thanks. It's hard to control my macros so much now that I am at college eating cafeteria food. The caf has a very good choice though I can still a decent diet here. I pretty much avoid all "fast acting carbs" besides fruit. I usually stick with the steamed grain mix and brown rice, maybe some 12 grain bread. I also keep my saturated fats moderate. I will be more aware to see how my diet affects things.

Seems like everything goes back to insulin, dah! I am thinking about using a b5 vitamin to always try to maintain clear skin, do you have any thoughts on that?

high gluten foods ---> induce acetate production in anaerbic gut bacteria ---> made into glutamate --> induces insulin release in pancreas --> starts the altered blood lipid cascade previously mentioned.

Stay away from rice and wheat, I suspect this is part of your problem. Are you doing cheat meals? IF so, what are they typically? Keep a diary of foods, and report the next time you have skin problems. Sleep is important - remember to keep up on it. B5 may or maynot work. Omega-3 fats, B2,B6, b12, zinc, and selenium are important for skin health.

Ok, thanks. I'll do what I can do.

I've been off the tetra for about a week now I think. Acne has not really sprouted up. A few pimples, nothing too bad. I've jacked up my veggie intake. I had one that was starting to form that looked like it would be a mean one, but it just started going away. That never happens. Weather is becoming more dry and cooler. Time will tell...