Thread: My skin is discusting, help me please.

Originally Posted by Tatyana

God she is good!

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Yup.!! Indeed.

I follow her around and read most of her posts.

Originally Posted by viet_jon

Yup.!! Indeed.

I follow her around and read most of her posts.

Yup, Trouble has gained another 'post stalker'.

I plan on learning loads from her. What a gold mine of info!

BIG BRAINS, so sexy!

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Originally Posted by Tatyana

Yup, Trouble has gained another 'post stalker'.

I plan on learning loads from her. What a gold mine of info!

Yup, she's got some hum-dingers on some other forums as well. Assimilating as much of that knowlege as possible is a worthwhile endeavour.

"Last word freak." -Jack Nicholson, As Good As it Gets

I am going to the dermantologist today for fucking fucking razor burn that ....wont go away. In any case, I know the doc is going to ask if I have been taking anything. (Remember I am on a matrix, CEE, and MP stack right now)

BUT.

These symptoms came up BEFORE I took this stack, however, I did start CEE before the whole stack (pre-load?)

Can CEE fuck up your skin?

I was taking CEE before also. My skin looks the best this morning than it has in months, and I haven't taken CEE in over a week. I am not saying there is a correlation there, but it could be. I will know when I take CEE again before I workout today.

To be honest, I don’t think the CEE has anything to do with it, but I won’t discount the possibility.

I cant see how it could either, but I am no chemist and no, Im not a doctor.

This shit started to itch and flake, so that was it, I scheduled the appointment asap. Cant have that shit happening.

Plus, I have HEALTH INSURANCE NOW! MRIs here I come!

I started eating way more veggies and I really think it helps my skin.

Usually around 3 cups of raw brocolli a day.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Take primal defense.

I'm curious. Did you see an improvement in skin condition with its use, BD?

Well I got back from the dermatologist today.

He said I had some sort of infection on my skin. Folli....itus? Anyway, he prescribed tetracycline and climidycin...sp?

I have to take 4 pills a day WITHOUT food! 1 hour before a meal or 2-3 hours after a meal.

Anyway, he said its quite common and it comes from touching something then touching my face. Germs had the right place + right time..

Post 4, your shaving thread:"What you describe sounds suspiciously like folliculitis, most likely a variety of localized opportunistic infection from Candida albicans (common yeast found in the oral cavity) in your mouth, given the location."

Except, he gave you a two general antibiotics. Both are slow acting. I hope they help.

Did your doc say anything about your razor being contaminated with this infectuous agent?

No he didnt. But I switched out blades anyway..AND even washed my pillow cases!

He did tell me to shave against the grain!

(Yeah yeah, you were right)

This tetracycline is a pain to take.. What happens if I take it with food? If I take it without food, sometimes my stomach aches, can I take it with acidophillus?

Sharp move - with the pillow cases. Until this is controlled, one easy approach is to buy cheap dishtowels from WallyWorld and use them to cover your pillow where you rest your face and head. Change them out every couple of days.

I would include yogurt in diet, forget taking the acidophilis until you are done using the oral antibiotics (doc should have given you an oral and topical, but what the hey, go with the flow). You have to take these without food, they are precipitated by calcium, which severely limits their absorption in gut.

I really hope this clears up for you soon. You have enough going on in your life as it is.

Originally Posted by Trouble

I'm curious. Did you see an improvement in skin condition with its use, BD?

It's not a huge difference, but I believe it makes a small difference.

Originally Posted by Trouble

Sharp move - with the pillow cases. Until this is controlled, one easy approach is to buy cheap dishtowels from WallyWorld and use them to cover your pillow where you rest your face and head. Change them out every couple of days.

I would include yogurt in diet, forget taking the acidophilis until you are done using the oral antibiotics (doc should have given you an oral and topical, but what the hey, go with the flow). You have to take these without food, they are precipitated by calcium, which severely limits their absorption in gut.

I really hope this clears up for you soon. You have enough going on in your life as it is.

I did get an oral and a topical. He said the cream (not lotion) would dry my skin out and it kinda doesnt. It almost..seals it.

That sucks about the absorption. With this lifestyle, eating is another job, but I try to make do.. I took my first pill today with a protein mix with water, not milk. Its CytoSport Whey which hardly has any calories...I hope thats ok. At least for that dose.

Update:

I followed as many of your guidelines as possible trouble. Here are my daily intakes and results:

In the Morning
Sam E = 400mg
Zinc = 15mg
B6 = 100mg
b12 = 1000mcg
Folic Acid = 100mcg
Accutane = 1 squeeze dropper's worth ???

Before Bed
Ambien = 15mg
Magnesium = 500mg
Valerian Root = 800mg
Melatonin = 6mg
Diphenhydramine = 50mg

Daily Diet
Meal 1: 3 egg whites, 1 egg, 1 cup of (Grape nuts or Flax Plus or Bran Flakes)
Meal 2: 8oz-10oz (Salmon or lean beef or chicken) and (Grape nuts or Flax Plus or Bran Flakes) and 2 cops broccoli
Meal 3: 8oz-10oz (Salmon or lean beef or chicken) and 2 cops broccoli
Meal 4: 8oz-10oz (Salmon or lean beef or chicken) and 2 cops broccoli
Meal 5: 8oz-10oz (Salmon or lean beef or chicken)
Meal 6: 2 cups cottage cheese

*Note: Meal 6 often replaces another meal when I am in a pinch for time and don't have time to prepare a meal.

On Friday and Saturday my diet is different due to my long working hours. I mix up a giant bowl of tunafish made with 8 cans of tune, 1/2 of a red apple, 3 big spoons of mayo, 7 egg white, and pickle relish. I carry the tuna and a loaf of multigrain wheat bread to work and eat tunafish sandwiches every few hours.

The sudden introduction of bran into my diet as been interesting to say the least. Without being too graphic, I have spent much more time on the toilet. The bran seems to make me hungrier than I was before. I did research on this that suggest that the bran cleans a person out and makes the digestion process a little faster thereby making room for more food. I have no idea if this is true but it sure seems like it.


Sleep:
My sleeping is better, but still not correct. I can't go to sleep earlier than 11:00 on most nights, and I wake up at 7:30-8:30. I am getting a full 8 hours almost everynight which is a huge improvement. The problem is that I have to take massive amounts of drugs to get to sleep. Last Friday I ran out of ambien and tried to sleep without it, and I never fail asleep. I went 2 days straight without sleeping once. Coincidentally, that was about the time when my knee and elbow started hurting.

Gains:
Gains in the gym have been stellar. My diet is airtight, and until my joints started hurting I was shattering records in almost every lift. I have taken the last week off, and I will take one more week off, until I feel confident that my elbow and knee is healed.

Skin:
My skin is finally in the recovery stage. I have attacked the problem from every angle. My fat intake is as low as it has been ever. I have been eating salmon at least 10 times a week. I have been eating flax cereal, also. I think I am getting ample Omega-3s, so I didn't think supplementing was necessary.
*Question: should I be supplementing more omega-3s or omega-6s?
I bought a porous stone, and I remove all dead skin from my body in the shower twice a day. I wash with Neutrogena exfoliating body wash.
I have been taking accutane which I ordered from AG-guys for the last 3 days. Old bumps are starting to heal, and new bumps don't mature anymore. They turn into tiny red dry bumps instead of giant puffy volcanoes. My skin is starting to dry out some, so I bought some Johnson's shea & cocoa butter to moisturize my skin twice a day.
* Question: If the accutane begins to over dry my skin which I am sure it will, should I shower only once a day?

Mood: I have had some serious ups and downs in the last few months. I find myself rapidly cycling up and down more so than usual. I have done as much as I possibly can to eliminate stress. My grades are great, my school workload isn’t too much, and my work hours are just enough to not go broke while not so much that I feel like I'm suffocating. I am scared shitless to socialize with people right now. I don't answer calls from my friends, and I have been making excuses for why I can't do things with people. I'm not depressed. In fact, this is as content as I have been in a while. Anyhow, I have IM, which provides me with more than enough socializing right now.

I have tried following your advice to the letter, and I have seen improvements. I am sure that if I keep this up, I will see more improvements with my training and my skin, but I don't see my mental state as ever being normal.

Thanks so much trouble to your time and advice.

Before Bed
Ambien = 15mg
Magnesium = 500mg
Valerian Root = 800mg
Melatonin = 6mg
Diphenhydramine = 50mg

Good to hear that its looking up for you.

Thats quite a sleep combo you've got there.

Originally Posted by goob

Before Bed
Ambien = 15mg
Magnesium = 500mg
Valerian Root = 800mg
Melatonin = 6mg
Diphenhydramine = 50mg

Good to hear that its looking up for you.

Thats quite a sleep combo you've got there.

Fuck yea it is. God couldnt wake you up!

Originally Posted by goob

Before Bed
Ambien = 15mg
Magnesium = 500mg
Valerian Root = 800mg
Melatonin = 6mg
Diphenhydramine = 50mg

Good to hear that its looking up for you.

Thats quite a sleep combo you've got there.

Hehe, thanks. I was taking almost 3 times that much this summer.

Kel, do you have any ingrown hairs when you break out? Or is it just plain bacteria?

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Kel, do you have any ingrown hairs when you break out? Or is it just plain bacteria?

against the grain!!!!

Add vitamin C - ample evidence that it helps with that cycling problem for mood stabilization. It decreases circulating vanadium - which is unusually elevated in biopolar disorder patients. If you use a multvitamin, make sure it does not have vanadium in it.

You need to add vitamin E and selenium (organic chelate form). And yes, I would also take a omega-3 concentrate (oil), not just fish oil. 1500 mg omega-3 fats a day. They has been shown to have a profound effect on bipolar disorder patients.

The latter is the only exception for cost..the rest are cheap. I would like to see you using P5P over plain jane vitamin B6, if possible.

I suggest you consider NOT using cottage cheese as your last meal, I think it might be adding to brain activity at night. Certain purines can cause this. A member on another site with this same problem had very fast cycling after a high protein diet. We need you to *parse* to slow slow this hit of protein to your gut. A number of folks I have worked with reported nightmares from consumption of cottage cheese or cheese before bed. I myself have this problem. If I have enough, I actually get anxiety attacks at night.

Is there anyway you can add theanine and ditch the diphenylhydramine? Both it and that cottage cheese can make skin problems worse by inadvertantly ramping up HPA sensitivity, and this can make insomnia worse through timing issues. If you used them midday, no problem, but just before sleep..causes a backlash and turns off late night melatonin production. Makes you manic.

You need to add cheap ass rice and oat brans, sprinkle them into whey protein drinks. You can get whey, 6 lbs for 24 bucks at Costco.

Need significantly more diversity in your vegetable intake. Broccoli alone isn't enough. Need salads, other vegetables. Its *imparative* that you get more variety, esp from red and orange or yellow vegetables.

Still need to work on getting to bed by 10:30 and getting up by 7am, eating no later than 7:15-7:30am.

OK, you're making good progress. Joint issues bother me a bit (why you have them). Whey and if you're willing to add it, cheapass (15 bucks for several months supply) glucosamine HCl is key.

Staying AWAY from wheat bran is a necessity. If you are using brans that are wheat based, dump them. They are suspect in causing yeast overgrowth in the gut, and that appears to play a role in that rapid mood cycling (by conversion of the proteins to excitatory compounds in the gut which are shuttled to the brain). I checked the oat bran flakes and found that the primary grain product was wheat. Just a heads up.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Kel, do you have any ingrown hairs when you break out? Or is it just plain bacteria?

I don't have ingown hairs. My acne was popping up everywhere, even on my legs sometimes.

thanks trouble, I'll try to reform my routine some to take in to account the new information.

Originally Posted by KelJu

thanks trouble, I'll try to reform my routine some to take in to account the new information.

Oh yeah, my elbow and knee stopped hurting yesterday. I assume the problem was overuse. Doing heavy deadlifts with 300lbs for reps followed by doing heavy barbell shrugs with 400lbs for reps was probably what made my elbow start hurting.
I am on day 4 of a deloading phase and I feel bran new.

How is the skin handling now, Kelju? Mine was acting up for a while. I found out eventually that it would come more around hot and humid times. I started getting it on my chest in between my pectorals. Now that it is getting dry windy and <30 degrees out consistantly it is pretty much gone all together for me everywhere. phew!

How is the weather down in Alabama this time of year?

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Kelju, were you able to solve your acne problems? I have been using head and shoulders for a few weeks now and it doesn't seem to be helping. I don't use any supplements but i use a face cleanser called "triaz 9% (benzoyle peroxide)" but my face is not the problem. I am still getting some bad cases of acne on my shoulders and back. I desperately need some help.

have a read on proactive solution if its not mentioned. my brother uses this and it seems to be doing him good.