Thyroid problems

WATTS · 12-12-2006, 12:40 PM

how do thyroid problems affect weight loss? I know a few people with these problems and was curious as to why this was the case.

**P-funk** · 12-12-2006, 01:48 PM

the thyroid hormones triiodothyronine (t3) and thyroxine (t4) help to establish metabolic rate.

If someone is hypothyroid (low t3) then their optimal metabolic rate will be compromised.

Devlin · 12-12-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

the thyroid hormones triiodothyronine (t3) and thyroxine (t4) help to establish metabolic rate.

If someone is hypothyroid (low t3) then their optimal metabolic rate will be compromised.

Sorry P-funk I have to add that hypothyroidism is also caused by low T4.

WATTS · 12-12-2006, 07:41 PM

so how would one construct a diet for this, would it differ from a regualar cutting diet if he wanted to lose fat? He has Graves Disease

**P-funk** · 12-12-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Devlin

Sorry P-funk I have to add that hypothyroidism is also caused by low T4.

T4 changes to to the metabolically active T3. If you are low in one wouldn't you be low in the other?

MeatZatk · 12-13-2006, 12:55 AM

He ought to see his doctor about a perscription medication. I suffered from Hypothyroidism a few years back and my doc had me take 50 micrograms of synthroid once a day. After 6 months or so, it corrected itself.

WATTS · 12-13-2006, 12:31 PM

hes taking something called Toperal for a beta blocker and he is taking Tapizol for his thyroid...i may have misspelled the meds.

**dg806** · 12-13-2006, 01:59 PM

Toprol is for blood pressure.

Devlin · 12-13-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

T4 changes to to the metabolically active T3. If you are low in one wouldn't you be low in the other?

Usually yes, if a person has a low T4, the person's T3 will also be low. However, a person can have a normal T4 and a low T3 if a person has problems converting T4 to T3.

Devlin · 12-13-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WATTS

hes taking something called Toperal for a beta blocker and he is taking Tapizol for his thyroid...i may have misspelled the meds.

There is a drug called Tapazole but it is for HYPERthyroidism. In other words it is given to a person who over produces thyroid hormones. If your friend has Graves Disease then he/she produces too much T4 & T3 and would tend to not be able to put on weight or would experience rapid weight loss without dieting. Tapazole would decrease the amount of thyroid hormones the body produces allowing a person to maintain a certain weight or put on weight. As for the type of diet for cutting for a person with Graves Disease who is on Tapazole...just eat clean.

Devlin · 12-13-2006, 06:43 PM

Here I found this link about Graves Disease. It is very informative.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gra...181/DSECTION=6

hardasnails1973 · 12-13-2006, 08:35 PM

A person with low t4 can have high t-3 because they lack cortisol to drive it into the cell. Adrenals and thyroid problems go hand and hand. Thyroid drives adrenals and vice versa. Alot of problems with thyroid is in ability to convert due to adrenal imbalances which is showing up more and more due to our high prressure society and not taking time out to enjoy life. Its go go go. Take some time out and examine your life style then make neccessary changes in order to help reduce stress on the body.

**P-funk** · 12-13-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Devlin

Usually yes, if a person has a low T4, the person's T3 will also be low. However, a person can have a normal T4 and a low T3 if a person has problems converting T4 to T3.

How is that different from what I said? hypothyroid would be low T3......you just said it yourself (a person can have normal T4 and still have low T3; or they can have low T4 which then would lead to lower T3).

Devlin · 12-13-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

How is that different from what I said? hypothyroid would be low T3......you just said it yourself (a person can have normal T4 and still have low T3; or they can have low T4 which then would lead to lower T3).

It's not different, I was just adding to what you said

I was trying to say that hypothyroidism is not based solely on T3.

**P-funk** · 12-13-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Devlin

It's not different, I was just adding to what you said

I was trying to say that hypothyroidism is not based solely on T3.

oh. i was just asking. I wanted to make sure that I had it correct and that there wasn't something i was missing.

Devlin · 12-13-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

oh. i was just asking. I wanted to make sure that I had it correct and that there wasn't something i was missing.

It's ok, you didn't miss anything.

What I'm not getting is why a person who is taking meds for hyperthyroidism would ask about a cutting diet.

Granted Graves Disease causes other problems inaddition to elevated thyroid levels, but heck if person with Graves Disease wanted to cut, just stop or decrease the Tapazole.

hardasnails1973 · 12-14-2006, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

How is that different from what I said? hypothyroid would be low T3......you just said it yourself (a person can have normal T4 and still have low T3; or they can have low T4 which then would lead to lower T3).

You need to distquish ft3 from serum t3. You can have a high serum t3 but low ft3 and still experience hypothyroid symptoms. same wasy as you can have high testosterone, but low free test and feel like shit.

**P-funk** · 12-14-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hardasnails1973

You need to distquish ft3 from serum t3. You can have a high serum t3 but low ft3 and still experience hypothyroid symptoms. same wasy as you can have high testosterone, but low free test and feel like shit.

eitherway, the defenition of hypothyroid is low T3......if you have low testosterone, you would say "I have low testosterone"....not "I have low free testosterone...etc....".

hardasnails1973 · 12-14-2006, 08:46 AM

It all comes down to bioavailability what is usable to the body. I have seen guys with 1000 ng/dl and low free and have symptoms of low testosterone and people with 500 ng/dl and high free testosterone are better off. Problem with drs not properly treating low testosterone

flav · 06-18-2009, 06:00 AM

Hey,

What are the major differences between different types of thyroid problems?

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MeatZatk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,000 Photos: 5	He ought to see his doctor about a perscription medication. I suffered from Hypothyroidism a few years back and my doc had me take 50 micrograms of synthroid once a day. After 6 months or so, it corrected itself. I wish my lawn was emo so it would cut itself

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dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,196	Toprol is for blood pressure. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

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Devlin Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: KY Posts: 3,302 Photos: 27	Here I found this link about Graves Disease. It is very informative. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gra...181/DSECTION=6 Time to get my life and body back Time to face the jury (and myself) Time to bring sexyback

12-12-2006, 07:41 PM	#4
WATTS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Posts: 619 Photos: 5	so how would one construct a diet for this, would it differ from a regualar cutting diet if he wanted to lose fat? He has Graves Disease

12-13-2006, 12:31 PM	#7
WATTS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Posts: 619 Photos: 5	hes taking something called Toperal for a beta blocker and he is taking Tapizol for his thyroid...i may have misspelled the meds.

12-13-2006, 08:35 PM	#12
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,744	A person with low t4 can have high t-3 because they lack cortisol to drive it into the cell. Adrenals and thyroid problems go hand and hand. Thyroid drives adrenals and vice versa. Alot of problems with thyroid is in ability to convert due to adrenal imbalances which is showing up more and more due to our high prressure society and not taking time out to enjoy life. Its go go go. Take some time out and examine your life style then make neccessary changes in order to help reduce stress on the body.

12-14-2006, 08:46 AM	#19
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,744	It all comes down to bioavailability what is usable to the body. I have seen guys with 1000 ng/dl and low free and have symptoms of low testosterone and people with 500 ng/dl and high free testosterone are better off. Problem with drs not properly treating low testosterone

06-18-2009, 06:00 AM	#20
flav Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: - Posts: 1	thyroid problems Hey, What are the major differences between different types of thyroid problems? thyroid problems

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