Hialeahchico

any one here wit tips on rollin the perfect blunt?

just do it

bio-chem

damn guys how am i the first person here to ask the most important question in determining the decision in this matter? Is your friend hot? and are you more likely to get a piece? if the answer is yes on both counts then go for it.



truthfully though if you havent already dont. people will be more amazed that you havent later on and believe it or not youll get chicks later on down the road because you havent

RasPlasch

Nevermind you guys.....she quit smoking today, lol.

bio-chem

that will last.

MickeyWard

I haven't tried it and dont really have any desire to. I've seen people high and have decided its not my thing.

AKIRA

Funny how you say that about alcohol. I was just thinking about the effects weed has on people and those very same effects are what people like. Those effects they desire, I hate. Anyway, I was thinking about that and then thought "well, someone will say how they dont like the way alcohol makes them feel..yadda yadda.." Then bam, you post shows up!

No I dont smoke, but its just cuz I dont like the effects. I normally dont care when people smoke either, but I do when girls smoke it.

Ill also disagree 100% about how weed is an "entry drug." Yeah right, just like any sort of steroids is bad for you too huh.. Fucking media.

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bio-chem

except weed has been proven to be an entry drug.

maniclion

Caffeine and Alcohol are entry drugs...

"We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Natures inexhaustible sources of energy — sun, wind and tide. ... I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that."
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KelJu

I disagree.

bio-chem

for teens i would agree that alcohol is an entry drug. caffeine? thats getting a little extremeist

bio-chem

of course you do. and kelju how old were you when you tried weed for the first time?

KelJu

12

KelJu

I don't believe in the notion of gateway drugs. It is just another way t omake pot look bad, when it is not.

If there were such a thing as a gateway drug, ephedrine would have been more so than pot. Someone told me meth was like Ephedrine x 100, so I did meth for about a year while I was working 2 jobs and going to college. One of the worst mistakes I have ever made, because it destroyed my body and my mind to some degree.

bio-chem

good thing you have been able to work your body back into shape

KelJu

Thank you. I am lucky to have seen the dark side, and return back to the light unscaved. Many other friends I knew weren't so lucky. Some are in jail, some are in bad health, and others just completely ruined their lives. It hurts to see an old friend who use to be a beautiful girl, but now weighs 90lbs and looks horrible.

I have always defended the right for people to chose what they put in their bodies. Its our life to ruin was the way I saw it. I still believe that, but now I also believe it is our life to cherish, embrace, and respect. As you can see, I am a big believer in self responsibility. Still, I have seen drugs be used to harm people more than help.

Comedian Bill Hicks said it best.

bio-chem

this seems to be a new side of you i havent seen before kelju. i must say i look forward to future debates

lojasmo

Yes. MJ is essentially harmless (from a scientific viewpoint)

Of course, it's best not to smoke anything.

goob

Obviously not......

KelJu

Thats just wrong on so many levels.

bio-chem

i thought he dug little boys?

AKIRA

I disagree 100%. You had me disagreeing by the word "proven."

How can that theory be tested? It cant. Youd have to deliberatley control a set of lives, give them weed, then watch to see if they want something 'better.'

Ive done weed...and Ive drank. Ive also tried a cigarette when I was 12. I have caffeine almost every day. Thats not much of an entry considering people use all those substances without ever being introduced to weed.

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KelJu

Thats more what I was thinking, also. I do not deny the that pot can be a gateway drug, but It is not the case that it is a gateway drug.

goob

I know, but it's hilarious.


..albiet in a twisted way.......

bio-chem

it depends on what your defininition of is is....

fine ill concede the point. pot can be a gateway drug

AKIRA

Even still, I cant imagine how it could be branded that way. If you can for that, you can for a variety of other substances, like fatty foods will lead to worse fatty foods.

That expression just seems to split hairs.

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lojasmo

ALMOST WITHOUT EXCEPTION, tobacco and alcohol are used BEFORE marijuana. The meme of marijuana as a "gateway drug" is just that. It has no basis in fact.

bio-chem

sure. and i have no problem considering these 2 as gateway drugs for minors. they would not however be considered gateway drugs for adults

StanUk

I smoked it for a couple years whilst at a college and for the most part it made me quite a lazy s.o.b. It got to the point where most of what i would think about was when i would be smoking next etc etc. I've stopped it for the most part now and feel 10 times better, but i guess each to their own.

BoneCrusher

Pot is the gateway of gateways because it's the first drug used by most.

SO you're a kid hanging out and you have a good buz. You've burned a few and now you have that kid kinda buz where EVERYTHING is fuggin hilarious. "Hey I got some shrooms ... " there ya are ... a bunch of kids doin shrooms. Did you do it because of the pot? Some will so no you still had free will and all that. But the situation led you to the opportunity that would not have existed had you been with kids that didn't smoke pot at all.

The kid that wants to explore pot will do so regardless of what mom and dad do. Where it goes from there will be a matter of opportunity though. Speed freaks tend to not hang with people that don't do speed. Same with other drug subcultures. If you have no priors of even smoking pot and try to hang with speed freaks you're like as not to just get an ass kicking as anything close to a bump.

It's the social situations you get into while hanging out with pot smokers that results in escalated drug use. I'm not even going to post the bazillion studies that have confirmed this. Google it yourself.

As far as how this theory can be tested use your head. If you have used drugs then ask yourself what the person doing the research would ask you. Did you smoke pot first or do hard drugs first? Did you decide while sober to go find and use your first hard drug? Were you stoned and in a social situation when you were first offered hard drugs? Now figure you're some kind of edumacated clinical research type person that has the priors to design a serious study. Add a few more well designed questions and multiply the test group by a really high number of people. You will wind up with an accurate look at "is or is not pot the gateway drug".

fufu

I wonder how many people decided no further drug use after using marijuana. Maybe it is good for people. What if drugs like cocaine, MDMA, shrooms and lsd were the norm? With pot, people can see how they react to altered perceptions. I'm sure some people stopped using drugs all together after having pot. Could be a good option for people to have.

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