is it my kidneys? liver? or just back pain? help

samat631 · 07-21-2007, 11:08 PM

okay.

i take a fair amount of supplements. i smoke ciggerettes unfortunately (working on quitting this horrible habit)
i lift weights.

ive been getting some really nasty back pains mid back.
and now im getting some brownish color to my urine. i dont have pain when i pee, no facial swelling. so im not sure if its my kidneys or not. but the back pain is pretty horrendous. i saw my doctor and he was not concerned. i tried to get the doc to check my kidneys and liver and get some blood work done but since i just had it done last may he wanted to wait. but i couldnt even sleep last nite from the pain.

what is going on with me?

**P-funk** · 07-22-2007, 09:30 AM

get a new doctor.

**calalily1972** · 07-22-2007, 11:59 AM

Sounds like kidneys to me. You should go to the emergency room if the pain is that bad.

forum9351 · 07-22-2007, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

get a new doctor.

I agree. Get a second opinion.

lojasmo · 07-26-2007, 08:20 PM

kidneys, IMO. Could be a stone. Could be Rhabdomyolysis. Get another doctor, or a referral to a nephrologist.

PreMier · 07-26-2007, 08:59 PM

If there is brown in the urine it could be blood. Pee in a cup and have it looked into, also get another doc.

XFatMan · 08-05-2007, 05:02 PM

Get a new doc. I had the same thing and it was the liver.

Blooming Lotus · 08-05-2007, 05:21 PM

When we smoke cigarettes, it raises the temperature in particularly our kidneys, by 1 degree every time we take a puff.
I personally believe that despite alot of other things about smoking, this could be a good way to mobilise alot of radicals in our cells and in our organs and in our blood. The medical treatment term for that effect is called renal diathermy.

A big problem with doing that though is that it potentials a risk of unbalancing electrolites resposible for heart function and fluid regulation. Both the kidneys and the liver functions can become comprimised because of that.
Generally speaking - because smoking also numbs or blocks receptors that suffocate oxygen paths - extra vitamin c and iron is a good idea to buffer both the potassium demand and the extra oxygen that we otherwise wouldn't get. Apple juice is also great because it has a particular enzyme that re-establishes good cell communication in these cases.
It may just be that you're dehydrated with your back pain and dark pee - but extra water - O.j. and apple juice if you can afford to incorporate some will definately help your long term health maintainence.
If a good flush and regular inclusion of those things doesn't help you - then good luck with a second opinion. Doctors wont usually tell ppl this stuff.. preferring to just advise " dont smoke " or warn " smoking does ..this or that" and dont really ever offer anything practical otherwise. Just like about with steroids, it regularly shits me if anything does that that's how they deal with it so good luck... kidney and fluid problems are just the beginning

.

Blooming tianshi lotus.

07-21-2007, 11:08 PM	#1
samat631 sammy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long island new york Posts: 191 Photos: 2	is it my kidneys? liver? or just back pain? help okay. i take a fair amount of supplements. i smoke ciggerettes unfortunately (working on quitting this horrible habit) i lift weights. ive been getting some really nasty back pains mid back. and now im getting some brownish color to my urine. i dont have pain when i pee, no facial swelling. so im not sure if its my kidneys or not. but the back pain is pretty horrendous. i saw my doctor and he was not concerned. i tried to get the doc to check my kidneys and liver and get some blood work done but since i just had it done last may he wanted to wait. but i couldnt even sleep last nite from the pain. what is going on with me?

07-22-2007, 09:30 AM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,700	get a new doctor. E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

07-26-2007, 08:59 PM	#6
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,962 Photos: 2	If there is brown in the urine it could be blood. Pee in a cup and have it looked into, also get another doc. P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

08-05-2007, 05:02 PM	#7
XFatMan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 243	Get a new doc. I had the same thing and it was the liver. December 30, 2007: Body Weight: 75.8 Kg / 174.3 lbs Body Fat Percentage: 21.9% Current (January 13, 2008): Body Weight 66,7 Kg / 147.2 lbs Body Fat Percentage: 5.8%

08-05-2007, 05:21 PM	#8
Blooming Lotus Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 896	When we smoke cigarettes, it raises the temperature in particularly our kidneys, by 1 degree every time we take a puff. I personally believe that despite alot of other things about smoking, this could be a good way to mobilise alot of radicals in our cells and in our organs and in our blood. The medical treatment term for that effect is called renal diathermy. A big problem with doing that though is that it potentials a risk of unbalancing electrolites resposible for heart function and fluid regulation. Both the kidneys and the liver functions can become comprimised because of that. Generally speaking - because smoking also numbs or blocks receptors that suffocate oxygen paths - extra vitamin c and iron is a good idea to buffer both the potassium demand and the extra oxygen that we otherwise wouldn't get. Apple juice is also great because it has a particular enzyme that re-establishes good cell communication in these cases. It may just be that you're dehydrated with your back pain and dark pee - but extra water - O.j. and apple juice if you can afford to incorporate some will definately help your long term health maintainence. If a good flush and regular inclusion of those things doesn't help you - then good luck with a second opinion. Doctors wont usually tell ppl this stuff.. preferring to just advise " dont smoke " or warn " smoking does ..this or that" and dont really ever offer anything practical otherwise. Just like about with steroids, it regularly shits me if anything does that that's how they deal with it so good luck... kidney and fluid problems are just the beginning. Blooming tianshi lotus.

07-22-2007, 11:59 AM	#3
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Sounds like kidneys to me. You should go to the emergency room if the pain is that bad.

07-26-2007, 08:20 PM	#5
lojasmo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 69	kidneys, IMO. Could be a stone. Could be Rhabdomyolysis. Get another doctor, or a referral to a nephrologist.

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