Thread: Obesity 'controlled by the brain'

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Seven new gene variants discovered by scientists suggest strongly that obesity is largely a mind problem.

As in, if you don't mind being morbidly obese, keep on eating.

Dieting Tip #1: Put down the fucking fork, you fat piece of shit.

Originally Posted by DOMS

As in, if you don't mind being morbidly obese, keep on eating.

Dieting Tip #1: Put down the fucking fork, you fat piece of shit.

hahaha.

My favorite: the "chain reaction"

i eat because im fat
and im fat because i eat
and i eat because i am depressed
and im depressed because im fat
so i keep on eating.

Listen you stupid pieces of shit, your trailer park up bringing is showing!

Originally Posted by Barbs

Listen you stupid pieces of shit, your trailer park up bringing is showing!

Lol wtf!

I think we have offended a fatty!

Originally Posted by KelJu

Lol wtf!

I think we have offended a fatty!

And a former fatty. I struggled with my weight for almost twenty years, and it was not fun. I jogged 10k 3x a week for almost ten years trying to keep it down to a dull roar. It didn't help.

I wasn't fat because I was a glutton. I was fat because on the standard dietary guidelines offered up to overweight women (ie low fat, low protein) my appetite outpaced my energy requirements. It took me a while, but I managed to figure out a way to eat and train that didn't make me hungry all the time. Once I had that part, I dropped the weight, got off type II diabetes meds and got my life back.

I don't think too many people are walking around out there who like being obese. Having tried everything under the sun before I finally stumbled upon the way to keep my weight off, let me tell you, it sure as shit ain't easy to figure out what to do.

Barbs is already losing weight and comes here for support. She doesn't need to read sewage like what's been posted here. Nobody does.

Originally Posted by Built

And a former fatty. I struggled with my weight for almost twenty years, and it was not fun. I jogged 10k 3x a week for almost ten years trying to keep it down to a dull roar. It didn't help.

I wasn't fat because I was a glutton. I was fat because on the standard dietary guidelines offered up to overweight women (ie low fat, low protein) my appetite outpaced my energy requirements. It took me a while, but I managed to figure out a way to eat and train that didn't make me hungry all the time. Once I had that part, I dropped the weight, got off type II diabetes meds and got my life back.

I don't think too many people are walking around out there who like being obese. Having tried everything under the sun before I finally stumbled upon the way to keep my weight off, let me tell you, it sure as shit ain't easy to figure out what to do.

Barbs is already losing weight and comes here for support. She doesn't need to read sewage like what's been posted here. Nobody does.

The flow of the thread was in the direction of tasteless humor and I responded to hostility with more hostility. I was being an immature dick, and I apologize.

Thank you KelJu. I appreciate that.

Originally Posted by Built

And a former fatty. I struggled with my weight for almost twenty years, and it was not fun. I jogged 10k 3x a week for almost ten years trying to keep it down to a dull roar. It didn't help.

I wasn't fat because I was a glutton. I was fat because on the standard dietary guidelines offered up to overweight women (ie low fat, low protein) my appetite outpaced my energy requirements. It took me a while, but I managed to figure out a way to eat and train that didn't make me hungry all the time. Once I had that part, I dropped the weight, got off type II diabetes meds and got my life back.

I don't think too many people are walking around out there who like being obese. Having tried everything under the sun before I finally stumbled upon the way to keep my weight off, let me tell you, it sure as shit ain't easy to figure out what to do.

Barbs is already losing weight and comes here for support. She doesn't need to read sewage like what's been posted here. Nobody does.

I'm sure there are some people out there with a legitimate reason to be overweight, but the vast majority of overweight people do two things: 1, They eat like it's going out of style; 2, they blame it on a medical problem that has never been diagnosed.

For fat people it always comes down to someone or something else's fault. Those that that take it upon themselves to take control are the one's that lose weight. Sure, you may have been given a bad diet, but ultimately, you chose to education yourself and take control.

For most people though, it means putting down the fork.

You got anything upon which to base your assertion, DOMS?

Originally Posted by Built

You got anything upon which to base your assertion, DOMS?

Just anecdotal. I've seen many, many fat people over the years that complained about being overweight, yet ate fast food for lunch...and a lot of it.

It also seems glaringly obvious that obesity if a much greater problem in first-world countries than third-world countries. Because we have a greater access to food and not to an over abundance of bad dietitians.

Interestingly, obesity is a far greater problem the farther away one gets from urban centres.

When I was growing up, most people weren't fat. There was maybe one fat kid in the school, and she had a "gland problem".

You don't blame dieticians? Hmmm...

I don't blame them individually, but I do blame how they are trained. Low-fat has to be THE worst idea that ever got foisted upon us - it has been a DISASTER. It gave people the false notion that as long as what they eat is "low in fat" they can eat unlimited quantities of it. I was one of these poor fools, and I was hungry all the time.

And have YOU tried to construct a diet based on the guidelines offered up by the American Food Pyramid, or the Canada Food Guide? We all know how to eat, right? We're well-entrenched in physical culture, we know that it's calories in, calories out, that we can't realistically expect to control our weight in either direction through exercise, and that the calorie is king, right?

Figure everybody knows this?

Got any idea why the ADA still recommends a low-fat, high complex carbohydrate diet to type II diabetics?

While you're at it, got any idea why low-carbohydrate diets aren't routinely recommended to people with high cholesterol? The AHA's step I diet has been clinically shown to worsen your lipid profile. Bad cholesterol drops, a little, but good cholesterol drops a little MORE. And the point drop is trivial at best. Compare this with what typically happens on Atkins, where good cholesterol actually RISES while total cholesterol and triglycerides drop. Remember, Atkins was a cardiologist. My doctor put me on Atkins to fix my lipid profile and it worked. Good doctor - I was lucky. Most would have just put me on Statins when I was 33, jogging 10k 3x a week and overweight with high cholesterol on my former low-fat diet. I would have been told "it's just your genetics".

My genetics predisposed me to overwhelming hunger if I tried to follow a low-fat, high-carb diet. There was nothing in my genetics that prevented me from maintaining a healthy bodyweight on reasonable calories - but I didn't even know what that meant until I got onto the bodybuilding boards.

Think hard about how few really know this.

No wonder people just give up. I almost did.

Not only what Built said, but the people that are supposed to be "educating" us on health issues are often clueless themselves. Both my high school PE teacher and our health teacher were both extremely overweight (go figure).

It's not that I chose to be fat, I fucking hated it. I was just never educated on how to eat or understand nutrition. I had no concept of how bad something like soda really was for you up until I started reading these boards in my freshman year of college. I was always told that I just needed to get outside more and/or do cardio which we all know is blatantly wrong.

Originally Posted by Built

Interestingly, obesity is a far greater problem the farther away one gets from urban centres.

When I was growing up, most people weren't fat. There was maybe one fat kid in the school, and she had a "gland problem".

You don't blame dieticians? Hmmm...

I don't blame them individually, but I do blame how they are trained. Low-fat has to be THE worst idea that ever got foisted upon us - it has been a DISASTER. It gave people the false notion that as long as what they eat is "low in fat" they can eat unlimited quantities of it. I was one of these poor fools, and I was hungry all the time.

And have YOU tried to construct a diet based on the guidelines offered up by the American Food Pyramid, or the Canada Food Guide? We all know how to eat, right? We're well-entrenched in physical culture, we know that it's calories in, calories out, that we can't realistically expect to control our weight in either direction through exercise, and that the calorie is king, right?

Figure everybody knows this?

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My genetics predisposed me to overwhelming hunger if I tried to follow a low-fat, high-carb diet. There was nothing in my genetics that prevented me from maintaining a healthy bodyweight on reasonable calories - but I didn't even know what that meant until I got onto the bodybuilding boards.

Think hard about how few really know this.

No wonder people just give up. I almost did.

I don't know how old you are, but I'm guessing that you went to school pre-1980. The eighties saw the rise, and abuse of, cheap easy to get food known as fast food. But this is irrelevant...

I didn't say that dietitians weren't to blame, just that individual diets choices are a far more greater problem.

So...the reason that the kids in your school weren't fat was that the FDA had it right back then? The logic to that argument just isn't there.

I don't know what to tell you - but they sure as shit don't have it right NOW.

And I'm forty five.

My sister is 31 years old. She hardly ever eats fast food, candy, junk food. She does on the other hand, eat lots of carbs. Spaghetti, pizza about once a week, bread. She is very overweight. She is finally realizing that it is the carbs and not the lack of exercise and fatty foods. As we know everyone is different. I could eat my sisters diet and probably lose weight.