Anti-aging forum topic?

[Perdido]

Lots of cutting edge stuff on the horizon for those of us who pay a little more attention to the clock ticking away.
Anybody else interested in this stuff besides me?

[KelJu]

The problem is there is no such thing as anti-aging. But there is a lot of stuff out there that will keep you looking better longer. GH, a healthy diet, a good exercise program, and good tools for stress management seem to be the only proven methods out there.

[min0 lee]

Lots of sleep.

[KelJu]

Lots of sleep.

Yes, this too. At least 7 hours a night.

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Sperm on the face.

[Perdido]

Sperm on the face.

Is that your secret?

No thanks, I'll keep my wrinkles.

[Glycomann]

Yeah I'm into the anti-aging bit. I'm 48. I mess around with some stuff. I'm with a clinic. Plus I have advanced degrees in Biomedicine and Biochemistry so I do some of my own stuff. Nothing that isn't out there already though.

[heavyiron]

I love the topic.

[Built]

So do I - especially with regard to healing injuries, disc degeneration, arthritis...

[FMJ]

Yeah, I'm interested too! I would have been the first to respond but my arthritis is acting up.

[sassy69]

Anything anti-getting old!

[2tomlinson]

Well, Sassy, so far so good judging from your photo. I started HRT about six months ago, and haven't been happier or in better shape in 15-years or so. I've been working with an MD from Florida's east coast, and he recently texted me, after attending a symposium on the subject in Vegas, that he couldn't wait to share some of the new cutting-edge info. You and Abs Lady (Built) have also been incredibly helpful, which is why I check this forum daily, but have only just now discovered this thread. These are the best times in the world to live, in my opinion, we are lucky people, indeed. T

[Perdido]

Anybody else catch this show?
# 414 One Woman's Story About Stem Cell Therapy - Super Human Radio - The World's First Broadcast Radio Show Dedicated to Human Performance

Pretty amazing stuff eh?

[2tomlinson]

What a cool webpage that is; an amazing story regarding stem cells. Something I'll be learning more about is Platelet Rich Plasma treatment for injuries and maladies of various types. One of the nation's leading labs is in Ft. Myers Fl, near where I live, and I'm going to be talking to them about its uses regarding back problems. I'll post results here. T

[Perdido]

What a cool webpage that is; an amazing story regarding stem cells. Something I'll be learning more about is Platelet Rich Plasma treatment for injuries and maladies of various types. One of the nation's leading labs is in Ft. Myers Fl, near where I live, and I'm going to be talking to them about its uses regarding back problems. I'll post results here. T

Cool!

Regard the OP topic: might be source for more sponsors/revenue for the site no?

[2tomlinson]

No doubt, I missed something, is OP osteoporosis? I have a webpage, but know zilch about advertising and revenue. Is anyone here using HGH? I have been using it since Feb. 23, although missed two weeks while on the road (I have a script but didn't want to risk carry-on through security). I have noticed fat disappearing at injection sites, and feel markedly more energetic, although it may be due to combination of test/deca injections and armour thyroid pills. I'd love to hear anyone else's experiences. t

[Perdido]

Sorry for the confusion. OP was original post about adding the topic to the lineup.

I'm on hgh, 2iu's for some shoulder issues. Doc's couldn't seam to figure out what was wrong without suggesting exploratory surgery...screw that. 2 weeks of a small dose of hgh and pain is gone.

[2tomlinson]

You felt a difference in two weeks? That is good news. For me it's difficult to decipher between what is actual improvement and what is a placebo effect. But I have to agree, after only a month on HGH I felt better. After the two weeks off HGH, I felt worse. Now, after one week on it, after my return, I feel great. Do you inject it into your shoulder? If not, do you notice if you have very rapid losses of fat in your abdomen (if that is where you inject it)? T

[Perdido]

I inject in ab area. No site injections. I know for sure it wasn't placebo effect because I've had pain for months with trouble sleeping. I injured my shoulder a year or so ago and let it heal up by babying it and was fine on flexin and fish oil until I tried doing some heavy benches several weeks in a row. It would be one hell of a coincidence that the pain almost totally goes away and sleep returns to normal two weeks after 2iu's of GH, five days on 2 days off. BTW I'm not doing barbell flat benches anymore...I've learned my lesson on those!

Not much in fat loss yet. I'm still tapering back calories. Maybe a loss of a pound at max so far.

[2tomlinson]

I'd really like to get my wife doing HRT, she's still incredibly fit and beautiful despite our ages, but has a family history of breast cancer. Do you know anything about doing genetic testing labs for cancer potential in women (or men?) A doctor I know said that might be useful, but the psychological results could be upsetting, depending, of course, on the results.

[Perdido]

Do you know anything about doing genetic testing labs for cancer potential in women (or men?)

This is the first of heard of that so no.

A doctor I know said that might be useful, but the psychological results could be upsetting, depending, of course, on the results.

Maybe but no more than knowing family history I would think. My family history isn't good with C so I'd like to know everything I can about prevention. I do find it interesting some of the latest conflicting studies that have come out regarding some types of cancer.

[DOMS]

The first and foremost factor in aging is your mindset.

Consider what it was like growing up in the first half (or so) of the 19th century.

You were free to play and feel free until you graduated from high school. Then you were expected to put away most "childish" habits (cartoons, toys, etc.) and focus on collage and/or a budding career.

After you were married and hit the early to mid thirties, you were expected to put away the last of your "childish" habits (going to parties, trying radical new things, etc.).

In your forties, you took up a sedentary hobby like stamp collecting or gardening. You polished off the night with some teevee. This continued into your fifties.

In your mid-sixties, you retired and spent the remainder of your days putting around the house and going out occasionally with people your same age.

And then you died.

Yes, the end result is that you wound down and stopped.

In every stage of your life you were expected to reduce both your physical activity and your mental activity. Being creative as an adult was taboo. The problem is that the more you limit what you think about and what you do, the lower your quality of life gets and the faster you die.

Thankfully, for the most part, this pattern seems to be going away. You're an adult and you like to watch cartoons? It's okay. You're in your mid-thirties and you took up a martial art? It's okay. You're sixty and squatting two times your body weight? It's okay.

Sure, modern medicine has done wonders to extend your life, but it's the changing mindset that's helping to keep the quality of life up.

The short version: stay physically and mentally active. You have to grow old, you don't have to be old.

[2tomlinson]

Thank you DOMS, very insightful, and I do agree -- mindset is most powerful, and we are relentlessly active people at 59, and hopefully will be swimming across bays and play baseball into the 80s. But hormones are also a very potent component in the aging process. We are chemical electric vessels, spiritually driven, in my opinion, and I want to learn all I can about HRT. As you wrote, it's all about expectations. I'll be checking into the genetic testing potentials and will post here, T

[Dark Geared God]

[2tomlinson]

Predictive genetic testing, from what I’ve read costs between $1500 and $2500, depending on the labs, and whether you want sequencing including the two-most cancer indicators, or also including three other tests which I don’t understand. (Not that I understand the BRAC1/2 tests.) This from the National Cancer Institute (a pretty conservative source) regarding predictive genetic testing. It also includes interesting stuff for guys. “ A woman’s lifetime risk of developing breast and/or ovarian cancer is greatly increased if she inherits a harmful mutation in BRCA1 or BRCA2. Such a woman has an increased risk of developing breast and/or ovarian cancer at an early age (before menopause) and often has multiple, close family members who have been diagnosed with these diseases. Harmful BRCA1 mutations may also increase a woman’s risk of developing cervical, uterine, pancreatic, and colon cancer. Harmful BRCA2 mutations may additionally increase the risk of pancreatic cancer, stomach cancer, gallbladder and bile duct cancer, and melanoma. 
Men with harmful BRCA1 mutations also have an increased risk of breast cancer and, possibly, of pancreatic cancer, testicular cancer, and early-onset prostate cancer. However, male breast cancer, pancreatic cancer, and prostate cancer appear to be more strongly associated with BRCA2 gene mutations." I, of course, copied and pasted the stuff in quotes, but do find it interesting. What do you think, Rahaas? Do we want to know in advance if we've been dealt a slim hand? I think I would. But then, I haven't ordered the tests. T

[Perdido]

Interesting stuff T, thanks.
If I had access to overcoming all of the potential financial hurdles I would want to know. My Dad died of complications of colon cancer so I get regular exams at $1600 a pop.

[Perdido]

The first and foremost factor in aging is your mindset.

Consider what it was like growing up in the first half (or so) of the 19th century.

You were free to play and feel free until you graduated from high school. Then you were expected to put away most "childish" habits (cartoons, toys, etc.) and focus on collage and/or a budding career.

After you were married and hit the early to mid thirties, you were expected to put away the last of your "childish" habits (going to parties, trying radical new things, etc.).

In your forties, you took up a sedentary hobby like stamp collecting or gardening. You polished off the night with some teevee. This continued into your fifties.

In your mid-sixties, you retired and spent the remainder of your days putting around the house and going out occasionally with people your same age.

And then you died.

Yes, the end result is that you wound down and stopped.

In every stage of your life you were expected to reduce both your physical activity and your mental activity. Being creative as an adult was taboo. The problem is that the more you limit what you think about and what you do, the lower your quality of life gets and the faster you die.

Thankfully, for the most part, this pattern seems to be going away. You're an adult and you like to watch cartoons? It's okay. You're in your mid-thirties and you took up a martial art? It's okay. You're sixty and squatting two times your body weight? It's okay.

Sure, modern medicine has done wonders to extend your life, but it's the changing mindset that's helping to keep the quality of life up.

The short version: stay physically and mentally active. You have to grow old, you don't have to be old.

Good stuff DOMS but respectfully that's not the point of why I've suggested the topic.

So do I - especially with regard to healing injuries, disc degeneration, arthritis...

This would be more of the kind of stuff I'm interested in as well as alternatives to traditional healing/prevention and overall quality of life stuff for those of us who already know and live better because of the benefits of what you've mentioned. Not much is mentioned about it on the big forums, just a few obscure sites.

[2tomlinson]

Rahaas, The MD I'm working with, Dr. Tim Sigman of Vero Beach Florida works closely with a compounding pharmacist. Together, they have improved my life much for the better. One of the prescriptions is for Armour thyroid capsules, which are difficult to find, apparently. Dr. S told me that low thyroid is one of the most under diagnosed of maladies, and can cause lack of energy, motivation and a garden variety of other old-fart symptoms. He also has me taking 1 DHEA capsule a day. This, plus vitamin B injections, he says, are all important in feeling 35 instead of 55. It's working by god! Have you or anyone else here had experience with these components? T

[Built]

You can order the Canadian equivalent, "Thyroid", through our regular or compounding pharmacies.

You may wish to investigate taking a combination of Synthroid (T4) and desiccated thyroid to better mimic human T4-T3 levels.

What dose of Armour do you take, and what dose is the DHEA?

[2tomlinson]

Abs Lady (Built). He put me on 30 mg Armour thyroid 1x daily for first month, then 2x daily afterward. He says Armour thyroid is superior because its natural (same with the pigs from which it was taken) and better than synthetic. You are an expert in this field, what do you think? DHEA is 25mg 1x daily. I'm so impressed with these guys; they seem conservative in dosages, but widely knowledgeable regarding HRT. For instance: I suffered debilitating lower back pain for years, did, literally every possible test and treatment (spinal epidurals included) save shotgun approach surgery. Thanks to a bitchin' Versaclimber I bought a year ago, and (possibly) the Naldorone and other meds prescribed by Dr. S, I now have almost zero pain. It is glorious; what freedom! It is, however, irksome to note that the dozen or so experts I saw in fields of neuro, orthopedics, pain management apparently had no knowledge of this new arena of HRT. During my search, I also stumbled onto Platelet Rich Plasma treatment -- one of the leading labs is run by a man whom, coincidentally, I know. Apparently, thy are doing incredible things regarding treatment of injuries. T