Are other PT's going to be able to use that forum?

**ponyboy** · 07-09-2002, 07:22 AM

I'm just making sure that other certified trainers will be able to promote themselves in the new section that seems to have appeared. I'm building an online training site right now and would love to be able to promote it through IronMag.

**w8lifter** · 07-09-2002, 07:44 AM

We will be making an announcement regarding the new forum shortly, however, it will be a private forum not open to other PT's nor the general public.

**w8lifter** · 07-09-2002, 07:45 AM

ponyboy, once your site is up, you can add a link to it in your sig similar to ours and gopro's

**ponyboy** · 07-09-2002, 08:10 AM

I just wanted to make sure that the forum wasn't only going to be a marketing thing for DpW8's online services. If that is the case, having it put right out there like that on a public forum isn't right, IMO. Of course we should all be able to promote ourselves, but others have just as much of a right to do it if you guys do.

To me, it would be like walking into a gym and only having one trainer who is allowed to promote themselves on a bulletin board, etc. You may know that the others are there, but that person gets quite an advantage by having their services publicly displayed for all who happen by. Why not just have a link to your training site as a banner instead? We could create a trainer site links area where you guys, myself, GoPro, and others could post links to their respective sites.

I'm just concerned it's going to bring a sense of isolation into the forums, which is what personally I am here to avoid.

**w8lifter** · 07-09-2002, 08:20 AM

ponyboy, perhaps you should w8 for the announcement!

**I Are Baboon** · 07-09-2002, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by w8lifter
We will be making an announcement regarding the new forum shortly, however, it will be a private forum not open to other PT's nor the general public.

My workouts need help. Who do I contact, muchacha?

**ponyboy** · 07-09-2002, 09:45 AM

I guess I'm jumping the gun...I guess I'll "w8" as you've suggested

**Duncan** · 07-09-2002, 12:41 PM

I see no problem with it. Although, I must say, Team DPw8 gave me the clap.

**Prince** · 07-09-2002, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by ponyboy
I just wanted to make sure that the forum wasn't only going to be a marketing thing for DpW8's online services. If that is the case, having it put right out there like that on a public forum isn't right, IMO. Of course we should all be able to promote ourselves, but others have just as much of a right to do it if you guys do.

To me, it would be like walking into a gym and only having one trainer who is allowed to promote themselves on a bulletin board, etc. You may know that the others are there, but that person gets quite an advantage by having their services publicly displayed for all who happen by. Why not just have a link to your training site as a banner instead? We could create a trainer site links area where you guys, myself, GoPro, and others could post links to their respective sites.

I'm just concerned it's going to bring a sense of isolation into the forums, which is what personally I am here to avoid.

Shouldn't it be at my descretion whether other PT's are allowed to promote or be aprt of the online PT services on this board? If you walked into a gym wouldn't they have to hire you first before you could work as a PT?

The current plan is for w8lifter and DP to work as PT's here at IronMagazine.com Forums, if other trainers inquire about working here, it will be taken under consideration.

**Training God** · 07-10-2002, 08:32 AM

I don't really agree with having only those two as the trainers. Mind you, I don't know what kind of agreement has been established between both parties involved. Also, it's not my site.
It's Princes site and he can do whatever he damn well pleases.
Although keeping only two tainers and not letting the flock grow will only make the smart people more aware that business is coming first before service.

**kuso** · 07-10-2002, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by PowermanDL
. Mind you, I don't know what kind of agreement has been established between both parties involved.

Key point here buddy. None of us do at this stage so lets just wait til it`s open.

**Prince** · 07-10-2002, 07:57 PM

We fully intend to, and have been, still helping out the way we always have been. Some have hired us to become their "personal trainer" or "nutritional consultant"....our clients get a lot more attention from us...complete & detailed meal plans, customized training programs, daily support & motivation...all the things one would get from a PT at a gym. The major difference now is that our paying clients come first and they get a lot more out of us, as would be expected when someone pays for a service.

Training someone thousands of miles aways can be done, although it can be rather difficult at times, which is why we will be having private forums for our clients. When we go to gather information from a clients journal, we have to wade through dozens of chit-chat posts to find a single post w/ their training or meals, we have dozens of emails and pm's back and forth, it's easy to lose things and not very organized. The private forums will act as their journals w/o all the crap in it. Everything will be in one place, easily viewed at a glance, we will be able to post everything there...no more lost pm's back and forth...which is especially difficult because Team DPw8 are thousands of miles apart as well...everything has to be forwarded to the other first before being answered, makes for a lot of unnecessary work.

Specifically how the forums will work is, each client will have their own private forum...accessed only by themselves and us (and Prince of course)...they will not be able to see another clients forum, only their own. There will also be one general forum for the discussion of training/nutrition/competition topics related to their programs but non-specific to their case....all paid clients will have access to this forum. So as you can see there really is no need for others to become upset, and worried about separation of the board, as was brought up by ponyboy I believe.... it's simply a means for us to communicate effectively and efficiently w/ our clients and provide the best service we possibly can.

**Leslie** · 07-10-2002, 09:46 PM

That's an excellent idea!! I have missed out on some answers do do too many posts in my diary. Can't wait til its up

**Prince** · 07-10-2002, 10:42 PM

it's up now.

**Robboe** · 07-11-2002, 03:37 PM

I don't care for it, but i like W8lifter so i'll keep schtum.

Personally, i'd never charge someone for advice or information if they asked me for it.

**Prince** · 07-11-2002, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Personally, i'd never charge someone for advice or information if they asked me for it.

you would if that was your profession, i.e. lawyer, personal trainer, & many others.

**Robboe** · 07-11-2002, 04:23 PM

In relation to weightlifting and nutrition.

**Prince** · 07-11-2002, 04:27 PM

yeah, but if you made a living as a personal trainer, dietician or nutritionist you would.

**w8lifter** · 07-11-2002, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
schtum.

schtum?

**ZECH** · 07-11-2002, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by w8lifter

schtum?

LMAO! You don't know what schtum is??

**w8lifter** · 07-11-2002, 07:55 PM

**Prince** · 07-11-2002, 10:32 PM

it's not a word.

**Robboe** · 07-12-2002, 09:57 AM

Quiet.

**Captain** · 07-12-2002, 10:14 AM

I think w8lifter and DP are 100% within their rights to accept payment for their advice/information. If people seek them out for their expertise, they should be compensated for that. That is their reward for the knowledge they have acquired through years of dedication to the sport and lifestyle of bodybuilding (and making it their profession).

But... Just like lawyers do pro bono work on the side (free work for people who cannot pay), I'm sure w8lifter and DP will continue to provide the rest of us outstanding advice, when their daily schedules and time contraints permit.

But I see your point, Chicken Daddy.

**mmafiter** · 07-12-2002, 10:32 AM

I don't understand why some people feel they have a "right" to free help when it comes to forums and professionals who visit them.

I run a MMA club and I don't worry about whether my business practices are "fair" to my competitors. If I give people on forums info, it's general in nature and if they want more detailed and specific help, they PAY to come and train with me. Many times I will intentionally "steal" students away from my competitors by encouraging my students to visit other clubs. When the other people see my students they often ask where we train, and sure enough, we will get a couple new guys. It's business, and there is no fair/unfair in business. McDonalds doesn't worry if Burger King's feelings will be hurt before they unveil some new promotional idea.

I'm also a IERT member at the prison I work at and my employers don't expect me to quell disturbances, protect staff, etc for free. I'm paid for my expertise.

I see no difference here. Ironmag, w8lifter and DP thought of a new idea to interact with thier clients and they should be commended for thier insight.

JMHO

**craig777** · 07-12-2002, 01:04 PM

As far as I am concerned this is a no brainer. If I ask a simple question like is protein good then w8, DP or anyone else can put their 2 cents in, but if I ask w8 or DP to come up with a diet plan or a workout plan drawn up specifically for me that takes some of their time. I wouldn't dream of not paying them. That is what they do, what difference does it make if it is on the internet.

Now there is a much much more important issue at hand here. One of the first things my trainer wants is pictures, so if TeamDPw8 asks for pictures of their clients I think the pictures should be made available for us all, especially if they involve bikinis.

**w8lifter** · 07-12-2002, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by craig777

Now there is a much much more important issue at hand here. One of the first things my trainer wants is pictures, so if TeamDPw8 asks for pictures of their clients I think the pictures should be made available for us all, especially if they involve bikinis.

**craig777** · 07-12-2002, 01:12 PM

Oh my word, oh thank you thank you. WOW, w8 that is fantastic

I am just enjoying this for awhile, wow.

**Captain** · 07-12-2002, 01:29 PM

**Burner02** · 07-12-2002, 01:50 PM

Hey!
Looking great as always...but I thought the order was for a bikini!
Now get back in there and find one!

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