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Posted by: min0 lee

American League

1B-- M. Teixeira, NYY

2B-- R. Cano, NYY ....Although I Kinsler is pretty good.

SS---D. Jeter, NYY

3B---E. Longoria, TB

C-- J. Mauer, MIN

OF-T. Hunter, LAA.... J. Bay, BOS....N. Cruz, TEX

Posted by: min0 lee

National League

1b--A Pujols

2b--C Utley

ss--M Tejada

3b---D. Wright, NYM

of--C Beltran...R Ibanez........B Hawpe

Posted by: soxmuscle

C Joe Mauer
1B Justin Morneau
2B Ian Kinsler
SS Jason Barlett
3B Evan Longoria
OF Jason Bay
OF Carl Crawford
OF Torii Hunter

Posted by: soxmuscle

C Bengie Molina
1B Albert Pujols
2B Chase Utley
SS Hanley Ramirez
3B Ryan Zimmerman
OF Raul Ibanez
OF Justin Upton
OF Ryan Braun

Posted by: min0 lee

I would have thought you would vote for the whole Red Sox team.

Posted by: HialeahChico305

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

I would have thought you would vote for the whole Red Sox team.

haha

Posted by: soxmuscle

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I would have thought you would vote for the whole Red Sox team.

No, I'm not a Homer when it comes to sports like you are.

Teixeira, Cano and Jeter all don't deserve to be starting at the All-Star game based on statistics.

Cabrera, Youkilis and Morneau are all more deserving starters at this point in the season.

Cano has been exceptional but we're again left with wondering "will the real Robinson Cano please stand up?" and there have been several players who have put together better seasons. The American League all-star team will feature three second baseman and Robinson Cano won't be one of them: Ian Kinsler, Dustin Pedroia, and Fresno States own Aaron Hill.

And Jeter.. we all know the faggot fans will vote for this Minka Kelly fucking jerk off even though Jason Bartlett has been twice the player he's been this season.

Man oh man - you can be a prick at times.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

No, I'm not a Homer when it comes to sports like you are.

You sound like Pee Wee Herman now..."I know you are but what am I"

Posted by: min0 lee

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Look at the Stats.

It was tough for me to pick Kinsler over Cano, Kinsler is hot but I like the way the Real Cano has bounced back.

Dustin doesn't belong in the top 5. I voted him off.

PLAYER TEAM AB AVG HR RBI SB
-R Cano NYY 233 .300 9 34 3
I Kinsler TEX 230 .274 15 44 11
A Hill TOR 255 .310 13 42 2
D Pedroia BOS 217 .318 2 23 10

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Man oh man - you can be a prick at times.

I missed you these last few days, we really need to catch up on things.

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And Jeter..

Jeter deserves this as much as Ortiz deserves the MVP title you bestowed on him.

Actually Jeter is doing pretty good this year, does he deserve it? Perhaps not but more people will want to see Jeter at the Allstar game....it's always been a popularity contest. Based on numbers I would give it to Barlett, but like you said it's not about the numbers.
J Bartlett TB 161 .373 7 30 14
D Jeter NYY 229 .306 8 26 11
M Scutaro TOR 237 .304 5 27 6

Now Tex is the one I would say deserves it and not just based on the numbers, it's been years since we had a decent first baseman.....man, he's good.
You never realize how bad Giambi was at first till you see this guy.
He is the reason for the Yankees setting the error less streak record.

J Morneau MIN 222 .329 15 52 0
M Teixeira NYY 206 .286 18 51 0
C Pena TB 205 .220 17 42 0
A Huff BAL 213 .263 8 39 0
M Cabrera DET 200 .340 10 38 1

Cano has more RBI's than Youkillus, imagine if Cano was batting in the 3,4, or 5 slot. The guys above have better numbers at first than Youkillus.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Cano has more RBI's than Youkillus, imagine if Cano was batting in the 3,4, or 5 slot. The guys above have better numbers at first than Youkillus.

I will take back this comment, Youkillus was out for 2 weeks.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

You sound like Pee Wee Herman now..."I know you are but what am I"

You made a snide remark about how you expected my All-Star team to be all Red Sox when it was you who in fact wrongfully placed Yankees on the team even though they aren't deserving of it.

It's not a "I know you are but what am I." You tried to rip on me for something that's become your trademark and as a result you are a Yankee Homer.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Kinsler has been better than Cano in every sense of the game.

Imagine if Cano was batting 3, 4, or 5? He's batted fifth in plenty of games this year and if you really want to go that route, Ian Kinsler bats lead off but yet has more RBI's, Home Runs and Runs scored.

This isn't a debate. Ian Kinsler is the better player and has been the better player this season.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Jeter's having a great year but Jason Barlett has been better.

I'm picking who deserves to be starting at the all-star game. What are you choosing? Who's going to get the most fan votes?

Fans year in and year out, as you've proven in this thread, don't put the best All-Star team out on the field and now that the All-Star game actually "counts," it's a system that should be done away with.

Posted by: IainDaniel

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Kinsler has been better than Cano in every sense of the game.

Imagine if Cano was batting 3, 4, or 5? He's batted fifth in plenty of games this year and if you really want to go that route, Ian Kinsler bats lead off but yet has more RBI's, Home Runs and Runs scored.

This isn't a debate. Ian Kinsler is the better player and has been the better player this season.

I still pick Aaron Hill over these two chumps... not just cause he is a Jay

Posted by: soxmuscle

Aaron Hill, Marco Scutaro, Jason Bartlett.

Three players who have been labeled for years as career utility men who are all having break out seasons.

Fun to watch - wish they weren't in the AL East though.

Posted by: IainDaniel

I wish the Jays weren't in the AL east.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Point taken.

The Jays would win the AL West this year.

Posted by: IainDaniel

Even the Central.

And I don't think Aaron Hill was ever labeled a career utility man.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Maybe not a utility man, but he was never supposed to be All-Star caliber.

I've been following him since his days at Fresno State and while he was projected to be a solid player at a position that's tough to fill for his career, he's gone above and beyond expectations this season.

Posted by: IainDaniel

He was really starting to hold his own, until the concussion at the beginning of last year.

I think his position within the team not being filled, was a big reason (other then the management) for the Jays poor start last year.

Posted by: min0 lee

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You made a snide remark about how you expected my All-Star team to be all Red Sox when it was you who in fact wrongfully placed Yankees on the team even though they aren't deserving of it

Of course most fans will vote for their favorite player, it's normal.
I just figured you would have voted for 98% of your team, I mean I am shocked you didn't vote for your MVP Ortiz.

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It's not a "I know you are but what am I." You tried to rip on me for something that's become your trademark and as a result you are a Yankee Homer.

It really was out of love..........we go back a long time and I missed you.

I'm no homer, I try not to be. But if you would please go back to your threads and read them you will really notice who the homer is ( look in the mirror.

There is nothing wrong with being a homer Sox, I still love ya kid.

Posted by: min0 lee

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No argument there, this is a case of me being really happy he is doing well.
His number are not that bad...Kinsler is a beast.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Jeter's having a great year but Jason Barlett has been better.

I'm picking who deserves to be starting at the all-star game. What are you choosing? Who's going to get the most fan votes?

Fans year in and year out, as you've proven in this thread, don't put the best All-Star team out on the field and now that the All-Star game actually "counts," it's a system that should be done away with.

Jeter is now in a slump. LOL, spoke too soon.

This will never change.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Of course most fans will vote for their favorite player, it's normal.
I just figured you would have voted for 98% of your team, I mean I am shocked you didn't vote for your MVP Ortiz.

It really was out of love..........we go back a long time and I missed you.

While everybody is a little bias, the reason I've been successful as a degenerate gambler and a stud fantasy player over the years is because I'm not a fucking retard who wants insert name here solely because he plays for the Red Sox.

If I bet on the Celtics, Red Sox and Patriots every year to win the title, I'd be.. oh wait, I'd be a really rich man, wouldn't I?

Joking aside - I try to be as unbias as possible with my sports knowledge and just because I use statistics other than RBI and batting average, doesn't make me a Homer.

No hard feelings. I know that if we carried these discussions over to a baseball board instead of a bodybuilding board, you would be laughed out of the thread.

Posted by: min0 lee

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W

No hard feelings. I know that if we carried these discussions over to a baseball board instead of a bodybuilding board, you would be laughed out of the thread.

None taken, we would be laughed out of baseball board.
At least when I am wrong I do admit it, you don't, you just don't respond.

I can fill a page with your odd predictions and biased opinions.

Posted by: min0 lee

Pujols, Jeter lead star-studded rosters | MLB.com: News

Pujols, Jeter lead star-studded rosters

NL team includes four first basemen; AL has 10 first-timers

By John Schlegel / MLB.com

When the stars come out in St. Louis on July 14, the summer Midwestern sky might be a little jealous of the turf at Busch Stadium.
With the Gateway Arch in view, the baseball stars lined up on the field for the 80th All-Star Game will provide as pretty a backdrop to a midsummer night as any starry sky could, with a mix of some familiar constellations and a few new celestial bodies lighting up the night.

Hometown hero Albert Pujols leads the parade of stars as the overall leading vote-getter, racking up 5,397,374 votes, the second-highest total in Major League Baseball history. But the Cardinals first baseman was just one star in a universe of them when the National League and American League All-Star teams were announced Sunday on the MLB All-Star Selection Show presented by Pepsi.

With rosters bumped up to 33 per team this year, Pujols will be joined by three other star first basemen on the NL squad. They will attempt to halt a 12-game unbeaten streak by the AL, which is led by 10-time All-Star Derek Jeter, the top vote-getter in the AL.

"I've said it time and time again, but it never gets old," said Jeter, whose 10 appearances match teammate Mariano Rivera for the most among this year's honorees. "It's something that every player wants to be a part of. If they tell you they don't, I think they're lying to you. There's a lot of great players out there, so it's great to be going."

The 80th Major League Baseball All-Star Game will be televised nationally by FOX, in Canada by Rogers Sportsnet and Sportsnet HD and televised around the world by Major League Baseball International, with pregame ceremonies beginning at 8 p.m. ET. ESPN Radio will provide exclusive national radio coverage, while MLB.com will provide extensive online coverage. XM will provide satellite radio play-by-play coverage of the XM All-Star Futures Game.

Starters were determined by fan balloting, with 16 players on each roster being determined by player balloting -- eight pitchers (five starters, three relievers) and eight reserves per league. The remainder of the selections were made by Phillies manager Charlie Manuel of the NL and Rays manager Joe Maddon of the AL -- eight per league, including the 13th pitcher added when rosters were expanded to 33 on Wednesday.

The NL side will have a definite St. Louis feel to it, with Pujols being joined by catcher Yadier Molina in the starting lineup and reliever Ryan Franklin on the NL roster.

"It feels great to be there, representing the organization and the city that you play in," Pujols said. "Last year was a great experience in New York, looking back and seeing the standing ovations for Jeter and [Alex Rodriguez]. I'm pretty sure when they call all our three names, it's going to be the same thing. It's just great for the fans. I think MLB did a great job [choosing] St. Louis, and I think it's going to be really exciting."

Joining Pujols on the NL squad are three first basemen who could start this year, as well -- San Diego's Adrian Gonzalez, Philadelphia's Ryan Howard and Milwaukee's Prince Fielder. That gives the host NL squad a logjam of power at first, with Gonzalez winning out on the player ballot and Howard and Fielder both getting the nod from Manuel.

"I chose Ryan Howard because I feel he deserves to go," Manuel said. "And also I feel like he's our player -- my player. I feel like our players are the reason why I'm managing in the All-Star Game in the first place. We won the World Series. My players put me there."

The AL squad includes 10 first-timers, including standout pitchers Zack Greinke of the Royals and Edwin Jackson of the Tigers, who were among five chosen by their peers. Maddon selected the other five, including the lone representatives for Baltimore -- outfielder Adam Jones -- and Oakland -- pitcher Andrew Bailey.

"Pitching was very difficult, because I thought there were a lot of really worthy candidates after the people that had been elected," Maddon said. "But then some of that was pared down by team's not having representatives. So then we had to go to certain teams. So I'd say that there's a couple of pitchers that I'd say are really deserving of being on the team. But at this point, there's just no room. If there's any kind of injury situation, some of these names might pop up. But I thought pitching was really hard."

The AL's starting lineup will include Jeter at shortstop, sharing an all-AL East infield with the Yankees' Mark Teixeira at first, the Red Sox's Dustin Pedroia at second and the Rays' Evan Longoria at third. The Mariners' Ichiro Suzuki, the Rangers' Josh Hamilton and the Red Sox's Jason Bay will start in the outfield. Minnesota catcher Joe Mauer makes the start behind the plate.

Pitchers and reserves on the AL squad include a pair of AL East closers in 10-time All-Star Mariano Rivera of the Yankees and Jonathan Papelbon of the Red Sox, and five of the starters voted in by fans were matched on the player ballot. The players thought Blue Jays second baseman Aaron Hill, Tigers outfielder Curtis Granderson and Twins first baseman Justin Morneau were deserving choices at their positions.

The NL's starting lineup features an infield crew of Pujols at first, Chase Utley of the Phillies at second, Hanley Ramirez of the Marlins at short and David Wright of the Mets at third. The outfield features the Phillies' Raul Ibanez, the oldest position player to make his All-Star starting debut, along with the Brewers' Ryan Braun and the Mets' Carlos Beltran -- although Beltran is injured and if unable to perform would be replaced by Colorado's Brad Hawpe, by virtue of his standing on the player ballot. The Cardinals' Yadier Molina earned the nod behind the plate.

The NL's pitching staff features reigning Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum of the Giants, two-time Cy Young winner Johan Santana of the Mets and single-season saves record-holder Francisco Rodriguez of the Mets. The player ballot matched the fan balloting other than at catcher, where the players gave Atlanta's Brian McCann the nod.

The Red Sox, owners of the AL's best record entering Monday, boast the most All-Stars with six, followed by the Rays with four and the Yankees, Tigers and Twins with three each.

"To go there with five of your teammates is also a definite positive," said Papelbon, to be joined in St. Louis by starting position players Pedroia and Bay, along with starting pitchers Josh Beckett and Tim Wakefield. "You feel like you're going to the All-Star Game at full force. I feel like we deserve that and everyone else going, I feel like they deserve it."

In the NL, the Mets have the most players on the squad with four, while the Dodgers, Cardinals and defending World Series-champion Phillies all have three each.

Five teams have two starters each -- the Cardinals, Phillies, Mets, Yankees and Red Sox. The A's, Orioles, Indians, White Sox and Royals were limited to one representative in the AL, while the Braves, Cubs, Pirates and Nationals each had only one player on the NL squad.

Utley and Ramirez will be the first NL double-play combination to start back-to-back All-Star Games since Craig Biggio and Barry Larkin in 1994-95. The Jeter-Pedroia combo, meanwhile, marks the first AL repeat since Alfonso Soriano was the second baseman for the Yankees and Rodriguez was the shortstop for the Rangers, in 2002-03.

Also, Jeter's now the oldest AL shortstop elected to start an All-Star Game since 1971, when 37-year-old Luis Aparicio, then with the Red Sox, started in Detroit's Tiger Stadium.

While some players like Pujols and Jeter have made the Midsummer Classic an annual happening, getting there for the first time can be that much more fun. And among the 23 first-timers -- including 13 in the NL -- perhaps no one will have more fun being a rookie than Ibanez, who at age 37 is the oldest position player ever to make his All-Star debut.

A 14-year veteran, Ibanez was worthy of consideration several seasons in the AL with the Mariners and Royals, but it took his first foray into the NL to get to the Midsummer Classic.

"It's definitely a great feeling," Ibanez said. "I feel very blessed to have been voted in. The fact that I was playing on this club with all the great players, that definitely helped me to be a part of this

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

American League

1B-- M. Teixeira, NYY
2B-- R. Cano, NYY
3B---E. Longoria, TB
C-- J. Mauer, MIN
OF-T. Hunter, LAA
J. Bay, BOS.
N. Cruz, TEX

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C Joe Mauer
1B Justin Morneau
2B Ian Kinsler
SS Jason Barlett
3B Evan Longoria
OF Jason Bay
OF Carl Crawford
OF Torii Hunter

It would have been 5 if I would have voted for D. Pedro instead.....what can I say, Cano was on fire at the time.

The Allstar game is about fun, change that and you'll lose the fans that matter the most. Kids.

It used to kill me that they never really voted for any on my Metsies in the late 70's and early 80's.

Posted by: I Are Baboon

It's great to see Tim Wakefield finally make an All Star team.

Posted by: min0 lee

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It's great to see Tim Wakefield finally make an All Star team.

He's earned it.

Posted by: Triple Threat

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It's great to see Tim Wakefield finally make an All Star team.

Old guys rule.

Posted by: min0 lee

The All Star game isn't just about your current numbers, there are players who've had a good career and never get to start or even play in an Allstar game, this is a good way to say thanks for a good, great career.

In 1972 and 1973 Willie Mays batted .267 and .211 respectably
That was in a NY Met uniform, as a Met fan I was so proud.
I'm sure those numbers don't fit in with your Epstein baseball mind but the All Star game does not mean anything, it's for the kids, the fans.....it's a game about All Stars, don't mean shit in the standings.

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