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Posted by: nni

Before you ask a supplement related question, you must understand that without a proper diet and a proper workout routine, a supplement will do nothing, the name itself should suggest that. Supplements will "supplement" an already solid background. If your diet is terrible, you will never see gains, and if you are not working out intelligently and intensely, you will also never see gains. If you are looking for a supplement to fix a problem, please read through our Diet & Nutrition forums (Diet & Nutrition - IronMagazine Bodybuilding Forum) and our Training forums (Training - IronMagazine Bodybuilding Forum) first.



Posted by: MAC24/7

i see ^.^



Posted by: pitman

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Originally Posted by nni View Post
Before you ask a supplement related question, you must understand that without a proper diet and a proper workout routine, a supplement will do nothing, the name itself should suggest that. Supplements will "supplement" an already solid background. If your diet is terrible, you will never see gains, and if you are not working out intelligently and intensely, you will also never see gains. If you are looking for a supplement to fix a problem, please read through our Diet & Nutrition forums (Diet & Nutrition - IronMagazine Bodybuilding Forum) and our Training forums (Training - IronMagazine Bodybuilding Forum) first.
best shit ive heard all day.... so true...



Posted by: toyman

Bump that & all above!!



Posted by: PhysicalEvolutio

I really big on Supplements and knowing that they work when applied right... Though I completely agree with this...



Posted by: SiennaMein

According to me you are saying right about this protein supplement.....



Posted by: ryan92

exactly right mate, nothing beats a healthy diet, no smoking and no drinking. If you work hard, supplement right and eat well, you bound to make masssive gains



Posted by: mike2

I agree. I was one of many who figured that supplements was the key to achieve my goals. I wanted to put on size eating about 2,000-2,500 cal a day,and I was doing contract work all day and then hitting the gym. I found out I was burning around 1,000 cal a day doing my work. Man there is absolutely no way to put on size doing what I was doing. I was told that I would need to eat around 4,000-4,500 cal a day to put on size. I learned the hard way and spent a lot of money to learn my lesson.



Posted by: deathnote

thanks for the heads up



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Posted by: Arra

^ Nice list failbot.



Posted by: JR.

wut?



Posted by: cass07

what would be the best supplement to drink for a person who has hyper acidity? any idea about this?



Posted by: bigred123

anyone have an idea to how long 1-ad stays in your system to be able to show up on a urine test ?



Posted by: syed2011

one of mine friend, he's 19yr old, he eat on time, but could not increase his weight, he feel hungry after every 1 or 1 1/2 hr.



Posted by: xenesis

I really agreed through your views on use of Supplements and know that they work when applied right. If you are taking health supplement it require proper diet and consultation.



Posted by: Alenjacks

hello mate from my point of view i prefer to use natural supplements or products s they have no side effects and contains no chemicals. Natural diet keeps body healthy and strong.



Posted by: davebroncos11

Im starting my border patrol exam soon and looking into starting a workout with weights cardio and a good supplement routine.Inm pretty active and have free weights but havent used them in a whle. Im at 5ft 8 170 right now



Posted by: isco6

Whats up fellow southlander. Your weight is fair for your height. I would consider looking in the diet and workout section. A lot of good stuff in there.This sticky was actually to advise people on the proper use of supps.You can get lots of advice in the other forums.When you do remember info info info. The more the better. Like end goals injuries and current diet current workout schedule of meals age just anything you can describe the better. Good luck



Posted by: syed2011

Thanks to all of you for this supportive help.



Posted by: dennis lan

I have threat about the supplement in my mind.
because there supplement does not work in natural way.
and also some side effect after using.



Posted by: syed2011

Its not a new thing.....



Posted by: xenesis

It may be.. one of my friend used natural supplement, it is working well for him.



Posted by: lacal25

Hello, I am Brazilian, I need some contact for reliable delivery of supplements for Brazil, can someone help?
need and lipo6black Jack3d and oxy elite pro, urgent!



Posted by: Aldrich

I also agree that without a proper diet no one can do his better and no benefit's of his heavy exercise or any kind of the struggle's can make positive result's....



Posted by: vitamedica159

Since acne is multi-factorial, addressing the skin problem from several angles including diet & lifestyle, acne vitamins or supplements, medications, professional skin care products and treatments is often required to obtain the best results.



Posted by: vitamedica159

Regardless of sex, age or skin type, acne seems to affect all of us at some point.



Posted by: vitamedica159

For those over 40 and presumably past the “perils of puberty” acne is even more frustrating because environmental skin damage and dryness often complicate the condition.



Posted by: vitamedica159

Since acne is multi-factorial, addressing the skin problem from several angles including diet & lifestyle, acne vitamins or supplements, medications, professional skin care products and treatments is often required to obtain the best results.



Posted by: vitamedica159

"I was literally at my wits end in regards to my acne-prone skin...on the verge of using Accutane.



Posted by: vitamedica159

I am an actress, and need my skin to be in great shape... I've been using this product for about a year now with EXCELLENT results.



Posted by: vitamedica159

. In fact, if I run out and skip a week or 2, I notice a significant negative difference in my skin.



Posted by: vitamedica159

I'm a serious fan of the "Clear Skin formula", and I would recommend it.



Posted by: vitamedica159

I’ve been using this product for over 9 months. After taking it for only one week, I felt more energized and felt my complexion seemed to be glowing.



Posted by: vitamedica159

I would recommend that anyone who is concerned about marinating good health to try this product.



Posted by: vitamedica159

I feel and look younger since using the Anti-Aging Formula.



Posted by: vitamedica159

Aging is most closely associated with the youthfulness of our appearance.



Posted by: vitamedica159

However, the aging process not only affects the integumentary system (skin, hair & nails), but the cardiovascular, digestive, nervous and musculoskeletal systems.



Posted by: vitamedica159

If you’re concerned about looking and feeling older, you can fight the aging process in a number of ways.



Posted by: vitamedica159

This includes a health promoting diet & lifestyle, antioxidants taken through foods and anti aging supplements,



Posted by: vitamedica159

cosmeceuticals specifically geared for environmentally-damaged skin and treatments like Intense Pulsed Light (IPL) and fractional resurfacing (Fraxel®).



Posted by: vitamedica159

By now, most of us have heard the message that Americans aren’t getting enough of the health-promoting Omega-3 fatty acids



Posted by: vitamedica159

in the foods we eat. As such, over the last several years we have been advised to augment our diets with fish oil supplements.



Posted by: vitamedica159

The compounds found in fish oil - EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) and DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) - are associated with



Posted by: vitamedica159

cardiovascular and brain health. Given that cardiovascular disease is the #1 killer for both men and women, it’s no wonder that



Posted by: elbkind

true



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Posted by: gregsashinsky

why some supplements are not working properly?



Posted by: suppRatings

people fail to realize that supplementation is the icing onthe cake



Posted by: Wiseguy.

Not for me it isn't, just a minor aid.



Posted by: KevinC

supplements seem more natural to me than plastic surgery or lipo or gastric bypass or so many other weight loss options out there.

of course you have to use them as directed. nice to see people discussing this stuff



Posted by: leeisva

Hi Im 19, 5'10, 165-170 as my weight goes back n forth between the two, have a very muscular, lean, but build. In fact I put on muscle so fast its frightening, and its always so very lean, im also very vascular. dunno if that helps? I have a good diet, and on avg eat about 3k cals a day when im not working out, and about 4-6k when i am.

But recently I have been unable to get more gains doing the things I have been, even pushing my muscles to the absolute limit, gets me a big pump and maybe a little more size here and there, but otherwise very... very slowly.

Thats why I started looking into supps. The onlly things I have taken are vits and wheys, never taken creatines or any PHs or NO, none of that. Which brings me to my next question.

Can I have a person who actually knows what they are talking about give me a full list of things pre-durring-- and post-workouts?

I have looked a little into NO pre workouts and the one I like the best is Gaspari SuperPump MAX, but other than no pre workouts and even that, I know little in the supp department. Another side note, idk if this helps, but i wanna be around 190+ lbs



Posted by: Tammylee

I am about 5'7 and weight 150 pounds. I lift weights currently on Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays. I run Monday through Friday. I want to do a figure competition next year but know I have to thin out and build muscles. I have been reading and reading but have no clue what is true or how to proceed. I would just love some guidance. What supplements to take to get me to the weight goal and build muscle. Sorry for the long story. Thank you in advance.
Tammylee



Posted by: sassy69

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Originally Posted by Tammylee View Post
I am about 5'7 and weight 150 pounds. I lift weights currently on Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays. I run Monday through Friday. I want to do a figure competition next year but know I have to thin out and build muscles. I have been reading and reading but have no clue what is true or how to proceed. I would just love some guidance. What supplements to take to get me to the weight goal and build muscle. Sorry for the long story. Thank you in advance.
Tammylee
Just to keep you focused on the right things, diet, training, cardio & recovery are the primary components of your prep. The supplements are only going to be secondary to SUPPORT the diet, training, cardio & recovery, They are not going to make the difference and there is no set of products that is going to get you there if you aren't 1000% focused & consistent w/ your diet, training, cardio & recovery.

Also you need to be clear on your goals and the time frame you have to do them. How far off is your show? You cant' expect to build any sort of appreciable muscle while dieting so if you need more muscle, spend a good 4 months MIN working on that. I also think if you need to build some mass you need to train more than 3 days / week. Also how much running do you do? If you're doing this while you're trying to build some lean mass, it may actually be catabolizing and defeating your growth efforts. Then allow yourself 16 weeks to cut into your competition date.

The basics I would recommend:

Generally:
4-6 g fish oils / EFAs
decent multi
Probiotic
anti-oxidants

Building phase:
creatine
glutamine

Cutting phase:
any decent stimulant - or simply build your own ECA stack.
Glutamine



Posted by: Tammylee

Thank you Sassy69!! I want to lift more but I am finding that the recovery for just the three days is killing me. (good pain) I am reading a lot on eating clean to get my diet on track. In two week I will add 1 more day of lifting, than go to 5 days after that. When I run, it's at least three miles, different paces. I was told that competition season does not start till March, so that was my goal.



Posted by: malinamartis

Yes i must agree with you, before taking any supplement you must maintain your choice of food , keep track of your diet.

Zenegra



Posted by: senior316

Was there any follow up on this post, or new opinions? I myself have ulcer/acid troubles to the point where rows, squats and such really tear my guts up



Posted by: harmanrainu

i do agree with you!



Posted by: malinamartis

I agree none of the supplements beat healthy eating or diet. Eating smart food is that it’s not just what you eat, but how you eat.



Posted by: malinamartis

Thanks for the useful information about supplements!!!



Posted by: fienelarinsare

great info



Posted by: grootfac

right



Posted by: garnislitton

Yes nni.. I am totally agreed.



Posted by: wraggejxk

nice work



Posted by: garnislitton

Thank you for this resource.



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