Originally Posted by Doublebase

Another fake thread by Mino...

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

lol i love how all the current/former Redsox players are listed first. You do this on purpose min0?

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Click on the link and you will see it listed that way.
The funny thing is that your not the first Boston fan to complain about it.

The Red Sox fans are really not used to being a winning team, you would figure that being a winning team for a decade you would get used to people biting at your feet.

I really shouldn't speak, I mean after being the most successful team for almost 100 years we Yankee fans are accustomed to the jealousy success breeds I wouldn't know this feeling.

I should understand the stigma of losing for all of those years.....it was much like the Road Runner & Wil E Coyote cartoons where the coyote always found a way to lose.

Well the Coyote finally caught the road runner....so enjoy your meal for now...cause it won't last!!!!

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

Stop judging all Sox fans as if we are all the same. You should know better.

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

I am just merely pointing it out as it could just be a coincidence or perhaps intentional (the person who wrote the article is a Yankees fan? I dont know i didnt look at the link.)

Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

At this point, the only name that would surprise me would be Greg Maddux (the guy was like 150 pounds soaking wet).

There was a similar "confidential list" that was leaked a few days before the Mitchell Report was released that supposedly contained all the Mitchell Report names. Half the names on that list were not in the report. I don't give much thought to these lists until they are reported by mainstream sports media (you know, news agencies with credentials).

Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

At this point, the only name that would surprise me would be Greg Maddux (the guy was like 150 pounds soaking wet).

Originally Posted by m11

Most players, especially pitchers, do it for the recovery benefits.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

As much as I am against steroid usage this I can accept.
Isn't HGH used for this purpose?

Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

At this point, the only name that would surprise me would be Greg Maddux (the guy was like 150 pounds soaking wet).

There was a similar "confidential list" that was leaked a few days before the Mitchell Report was released that supposedly contained all the Mitchell Report names. Half the names on that list were not in the report. I don't give much thought to these lists until they are reported by mainstream sports media (you know, news agencies with credentials).

Originally Posted by min0 lee

As much as I am against steroid usage this I can accept.
Isn't HGH used for this purpose?

Originally Posted by dg806

Chipper Jones is not listed???

Originally Posted by m11

Maybe, I'm not sure.

Either way, baseball would almost not exist anymore if it weren't for the 'steroids era'. There was a lock out, and then after baseball started up again, the attendance numbers were dismal. Fortunately, Sosa and McGwire started going yard every other game and numbers were back up.

Additionally, everyone always talks about 'integrity of the game' and all that. Apparently everyone forgets about how "best players of all time" type players 'cheated' as well. Gaylord Perry scuffed the baseball between each pitch with vaseline and a razor and the Dimaggio era Yankees drank coffee between each inning with amphetamine dissolved in them.

Here's a nice little bit of information from a book released on the topic:

In 1961, during his home run race with Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle developed a sudden abscess that kept him on the bench. It came from an infected needle used by Max Jacobson, a quack who injected Mantle with a home-brew containing steroids and speed. In his autobiography, Hank Aaron admitted once taking an amphetamine tablet during a game. The Pirates' John Milner testified at a drug dealer's trial that his teammate, Willie Mays, kept "red juice," a liquid form of speed, in his locker. (Mays denied it.) After he retired, Sandy Koufax admitted the he was often "half high" on the mound from the drugs he took for his ailing left arm.

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Amphetamine use was rampant through the league. All would be considered cheaters by todays standards.