Originally Posted by Jonesy

age:19
weight:160 12% bodyfat
working out n everything for 3 1/2 years
No cycle expierience
eat about 3,000-5,000 calories daily

Originally Posted by RoosterTX

Wait 6-10 years, then if you're still interested try a test only cycle, in the meantime try different programs designed to meet the goals you have and focus on diet and good recovery.

Originally Posted by Lost John

I started my first cycle ever a month ago and I am doing 500 of TC a week.
I am also using 10cc of HGH.

I am starting to get Man Boobs! I wanted a big chest. Just not like this!

Any Advise? Please!

Originally Posted by Jonesy

if i used anadrol what would i stack it with

Originally Posted by lucifuge

nothing
do not use it
YOU ARE 19

you have a shitload of natural testosterone and growth potential.
Use that. Wait until your natural test production starts to drop off (around age 26) then start considering a cycle.

Originally Posted by jorge

Listen man, if you really are set into getting big, its simple! go to a rejuvination clinic, mostly in florida. And get yourself a legal prep for testosterone therapy. with andriol you will not get any gyno sides. Just follow the doctors instruction!! you will gain wieght from muscle mass in just a few weeks. just dont get stupid and abuse!!!!! the cost is just under $700 for a few cycles worth. Dont stack anything for know. just take it as directed till you start seeing how your body reacts to aas therapy. And do work out hard, not just 3 time a week for 30 minutes. That wont cut it!! and eat like a beast/ sleep like a beast!!!

Originally Posted by Shadowcam

WHAT!

Originally Posted by jorge

Yes, ""what?"" Do you think illegal gear is the only thing that works, i don't think so!! Thinking your some self medicating guru is not the way to go. If you cant have an open conversation with your physician then its time to find another that is willing to hear you out. A lot people think that if they mention anabolic to there doctors there going to get in some type of trouble. To many guys taking self prescribe anabolic end up with hair lost to some extent, why go through that?? Get some real professional help and just cut the risk by alot. And cut it out with the I self medicate roid guru crap! I mean really, is it worth having testicles the size of a 2 year old and male pattern baldness. Side effects that you can avoid with professional help not street smart help!!!

Originally Posted by Shadowcam

That was worse than your first post! Please stop!

Originally Posted by Built

jorge, are you currently on male HRT?

Originally Posted by Built

jorge, are you currently on male HRT?

Originally Posted by jorge

ADRIOL, DBOL & ARIMIDEX 4 WEEK CYCLES 4 WEEKS OFF. MAY DOES DEPENDS ON LAB RESULTS. I DO NOT TAKE UNLESS ALL LAB RESULTS ARE CLEARED BY MY PHYSICIAN. DURING CYCLE I GET LAB WORK EVERY 14 DAYS AND ADJUST DOSAGE AS SPECIFIED BY DOCTOR. IVE GAINED 30 POUNDS OF MUSCLE, NEVER HAD TESTICULAR SHRINKAGE OR ANY TYPE OF HAIR LOST. HAD ACNE ONCE AND HAD MY DOSAGE ADJUSTED. IVE BEEN ON FOR 2 YEARS AND SEEN GREAT RESULT. FROM 198 AT 2% BODY FAT TO 232 AT 9% BODY FAT. 32/5'9/232. THIS IS WHY I ADVOCATE 'TALK AND HAVE A GOOD OPEN RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU PHYSICIAN!!' I FIND THAT VITAL TO KEEP GOOD SOLID GAINS AND A GOOD OVERALL HEALTH WITH MINIMUM SIDE EFFECTS. AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT NO ONE DOWN, I JUST WISH PEOPLE WHERE MORE CAREFULLY WHEN SELF MEDICATING AND JUST DOSING BY THE SIT OF THERE PANTS. I FIND NOTHING WORSE THAN TO SEE GOOD POTENTIAL GOING DOWN THE DRAIN. TO MANY GUYS TAKING AAS HAVE MADE TO MANY MISTAKES, TO MANY RISK FOR THE END RESULT OF HAVING A MASTER PIECE OF A BODY. JUST BECAUSE OF THE FEAR OF GETTING CAUGHT USING GEAR. REMEMBER A PHYSICIAN CANT REPORT YOU UNLESS YOUR GOING TO KILL, MAME ANOTHER PERSON. HELL, EVEN CRACKHEADS DON'T GET RATTED OUT BY DOCTORS, LOL. EVERY AAS USER IVE MET ARE ALL HARD WORKING INDIVIDUALS WITH GOALS IN THERE LIVES NOT STREET JUNKIES ROBBING OTHER FOR THERE NEXT FIX.

Originally Posted by jorge

Listen man, if you really are set into getting big, its simple! go to a rejuvination clinic, mostly in florida. And get yourself a legal prep for testosterone therapy. with andriol you will not get any gyno sides. Just follow the doctors instruction!! you will gain wieght from muscle mass in just a few weeks. just dont get stupid and abuse!!!!! the cost is just under $700 for a few cycles worth. Dont stack anything for know. just take it as directed till you start seeing how your body reacts to aas therapy. And do work out hard, not just 3 time a week for 30 minutes. That wont cut it!! and eat like a beast/ sleep like a beast!!!

Originally Posted by largepkg

I'm not sure he understood you. You asked to simple a question.

Originally Posted by Built

LOL - the reason I asked is because he just suggested to a 19-year-old to go to a "rejuvination clinic" in FLA to get a scrip for AAS.

Seemed odd to say the least.

Originally Posted by largepkg

Yea, after I posted that I read his other 20 posts. My brain now hurts and I can barely comprehend 5th grade math.

Thanks jorge.

Originally Posted by jorge

Sorry, didn't mean to step on any of your feet, considering all your grade 'A' advise on aas. By the way where did any of you sorry ass douche bags get your medical degree's from??? Because it seems that everyone here is a goddamn medical professional. Or so you all wish you where, till you get caught with your illegal home made street shit and sucking of meat at your state prison.

Originally Posted by money monster

im starting my first cycle , sus 250/winnie v. please give some tips as to what to expect (gains,dosage,diet,trainning,pct) be specific please:

Originally Posted by money monster

im starting my first cycle , sus 250/winnie v. please give some tips as to what to expect (gains,dosage,diet,trainning,pct) be specific please:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

these are open-ended, insanely detailed, yet basic questions that can be found in the stickies area. Dont ask these; its evident that you didnt do any homework-and youre starting out without any knowledge. Are you fucking crazy? Want me to wipe your ass too?
But in all seriousness, let me help.