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Originally Posted by Pirate!
20mg/day of what?
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Originally Posted by Aodha
OH my stats are: 5'8" @ 150lbs. (just got back from the doctor). 9% bf. 23 years old. One preivious cycle. Been working out seriously for 4-5 years.
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Originally Posted by Gazhole
I can safely preempt these knowledgeable folks and say you do not need steroids at your level, you need good food, and lots of it. At 150lbs you have a lot of natural growing to do, and your test levels are still pretty damned high at 23.
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da man knows his shit. And I concur with the baldheaded fuck.
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Originally Posted by Gazhole
I can safely preempt these knowledgeable folks and say you do not need steroids at your level, you need good food, and lots of it. At 150lbs you have a lot of natural growing to do, and your test levels are still pretty damned high at 23.
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Originally Posted by I.C.P.
Agreed.Also,if you cant gain naturally,you wont gain with AAS/PH'S/designer steroids.
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Originally Posted by Aodha
I've done hcg and nolva last time. I did three 5000iu shots of hcg once a week. And three weeks of nolva at 40mg a day. This was done because of advice I got from a freind. But now I'm trying to get better advice cause I don't think he knows as much as he thinks.
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Originally Posted by JKurz
Geez, just answer the guys question... He's alreading going to use so lets move on.
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Originally Posted by VictorZ06
I don't feel comfortable telling a 23 year old guy who is 150 lbs. how to start taking steroids. And if he was too stubborn to take any of the advice posted above, what's the point? It's obvious his diet is WAY out of order and that should be the first and right now the ONLY thing that should be addressed.
I hate it when people come on here, ask for advice, and do the complete opposite because they simply didn't like the answers they read and don't want to accept the truth. There are a lot of guys on here that do have an idea what they are talking about, and sound advice is usually given when someone isn't being completely arrogant about it. Anyone at 150 lbs. has no business using AAS at all. End of story. /V |
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Originally Posted by Aodha
I mean I could see what you mean if I was just some 17-21 year old only working out for 6 months and trying to use gear.... But I'm not that guy.
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Originally Posted by Gazhole
You're no better, though, really. Stop kidding yourself.
Everybody in this thread was nothing but polite to you, they just didn't tell you what you wanted to hear, so you kicked off. Well fuck you, pal. 5 years training, full of NATURAL testosterone, have already done a cycle, and are STILL only 150lbs? Get a fucking clue. You are the classic misinformed user who knows shit all and is simply too pigheaded to see the wood for the trees. Have fun wasting your time, and may your liver forgive you. |
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Originally Posted by juggernaut
Thats not entirely true. I have a hardgainer client whom I've been training for almost a year now, great guy, and his strength gains have gone through the roof. He recently went on IM's Andro and made some pretty impressive body gains.
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Originally Posted by Aodha
Thanks all of you that gave advice. That's all I needed. I was wondering more specifically about nolv and hcg.
And thanks for nothing all u assholes giving me crap. I know my body better than you and I feel comfortable being on gear. I just wanna do it right! |
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Originally Posted by Aodha
Hah my liver!? I'm well informed on how to take care of my liver while on orals. What a bunch of random crap, I asked a question about pct, not for your opinions on whether or not I should be doing gear.
Polite!? Shadowcams been an ass on every thread I post. I'm here to get informed. I know the risks I'm taking, but like everyone else I don't think my natural test is enough so I've turned to gear. I'm not shooting 1000mg a week or anything. I'm trying to be educated. So again, thanks to all who got to the point and gave me good advice, I truly appreciate it. |
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Originally Posted by JKurz
Probably 90% of users on this site started anabolics under 21, and at a weight you would be insulted for starting at on this forum.
He is an adult, and if you think he shouldnt be running gear, simply say it, then move on. Then tell him what PCT you think would help him, since he probably already pinned. So STFU you (select few) keyboard juice monkeys and answer the bro's question. Flame on ladies....... |
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Originally Posted by juggernaut
90%...
Another dumbfuck who most likely weighs about 150 lbs and wants the easy way out. Youth, they have all of the answers and are invincible. |
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Originally Posted by JKurz
Now I see why juggernaut throws insults in every post, just saw the "NJ" under his dumbfuck name......
I'm 200 and 30, by the way. Keep bangin on your keyboard sugar! Keep the flaming flowing girls....... |
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Originally Posted by juggernaut
200? That's it? Woah.
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Originally Posted by Gazhole
Even i got there naturally by like...19 years old? |
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Originally Posted by JKurz
Probably 90% of users on this site started anabolics under 21, and at a weight you would be insulted for starting at on this forum.
He is an adult, and if you think he shouldnt be running gear, simply say it, then move on. Then tell him what PCT you think would help him, since he probably already pinned. So STFU you (select few) keyboard juice monkeys and answer the bro's question. Flame on ladies....... |
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Originally Posted by Shadowcam
That makes sense!
So if someone wants to commit a murder with a gun but unsure how to use the gun, your logic says to tell him you dont think he should shoot someone in the face but hes going to do it anyway so give him a gun lesson. Great advise, you are a asset to this board! |
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Originally Posted by JKurz
That makes sense!
Lets compair doing a test only cycle at age 23 to murder. No, you are an asset to this board! LOL |
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Originally Posted by juggernaut
hey smartass, ever think that the effects of using at such an early age wont affect you until later on?
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Originally Posted by JKurz
Please guys, move on. I'm sure there are plenty of 18-23 year old MEN, who you can go insult.
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Originally Posted by juggernaut
you're right but your much easier to fuck with-especially since you are a 200 lb, 30 year old imbecile.
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Originally Posted by JKurz
That makes sense!
Lets compair doing a test only cycle at age 23 to murder. No, you are an asset to this board! LOL |
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Originally Posted by VictorZ06
I don't feel comfortable telling a 23 year old guy who is 150 lbs. how to start taking steroids.
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Originally Posted by juggernaut
I tried giving advice the first time I posted, but that answer was followed up by a host of interesting comments.
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Originally Posted by Gazhole
I can safely preempt these knowledgeable folks and say you do not need steroids at your level, you need good food, and lots of it. At 150lbs you have a lot of natural growing to do, and your test levels are still pretty damned high at 23.
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Originally Posted by Aodha
You see people automatically assume my diet is off or tell me I'm too young, which I'm not. But you see I didn't ask any of that. And that's what's wrong with this forum. Don't assume, ask me what my diet is before you go telling me this and that. I know my body, I was an early bloomer in jr high, but stopped growing soon after. So maturity wise, I know my muscles are well tuned and ready for gear. I wanted to run gear when I was 20 but made a personal choice to wait until now.
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Originally Posted by Aodha
I'm actually 150, as of a few days ago at my doctors office. Seeing how I gained over 20 pounds and have kept 20 pounds from my first cycle, I think aas IS what my body needs to gain weight. I do eat 3500-4500 cal a day. I am a hardgainer without aas. So regardless of all your opinions if I'm too young or too small to run aas, I don't care about that. I want and need personal experienced advice on what to do, not just what I research and read. I'm not AAROGANT, I'm jumpy because of all you assholes spouting OPINIONS! that's not what I ask for, this thread was suppose to be about pct.
So AGAIN, thanks for nothing you retards! And thanks jkurz and you others that see my point. |
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Originally Posted by Aodha
You see people automatically assume my diet is off
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Originally Posted by Gazhole
Im tired of seeing lazy ass motherfuckers bitch about being deprived of their magic pill when other people have put solid work in to get where they are - with or without steroids.
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Originally Posted by Aodha
So AGAIN, thanks for nothing you retards! And thanks jkurz and you others that see my point.
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Originally Posted by Aodha
Hahaha thank you shadowcam for proving MY point. U see I wish this thread would of been just a few comments long about PCT only, but noooooooo.... I think I'll do what gazhole said though.
A lesson to LEARN for all you, when a guy asks a question, sure warn him of the risks, but answer the question respectfully. Isn't that what this forum is for? Or is it only for seasoned vets to pass on their wisdom....? U fools are so funny, "oh you must be lying..." haha it truly makes me think maybe you don't all know what you're talking about. I've told you the truth...period. |
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Originally Posted by Aodha
A lesson to LEARN for all you, when a guy asks a question, sure warn him of the risks, but answer the question respectfully. Isn't that what this forum is for? Or is it only for seasoned vets to pass on their wisdom....? U fools are so funny, "oh you must be lying..." haha it truly makes me think maybe you don't all know what you're talking about. I've told you the truth...period.
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Originally Posted by juggernaut
You want me to be "nice"?
Ok let me try....Hey fuck you-please. See? I can be nice regardless of what Gaz says. |
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Originally Posted by juggernaut
from you, yes. Go along your gay ass way and rejoin bbing.com
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Originally Posted by mcveigh1
After reading this post all i can say is... MAN I MISSED YOU GUYS!
I wish i could be 200lbs at 30, oh wait i'm 205 at 23, oh and I'm 5'8" shoot. The BB.com comment was priceless, have you seen some redic trash they have on there... |
