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Posted by: sara

is it true the steelers want michael vick?

Posted by: min0 lee

No, they should be happy with Big Ben.

Posted by: IronAddict

Will never happen.

Posted by: IainDaniel

Looks like the Packers are pretty interested in Vick.

As a Packer fan I am not sure about the move, as long as he knows he is the back up.

I saw Rodgers having a good year this year, not that last year was bad.

Posted by: calalily1972

He will be a PR nightmare for any team!

Posted by: IainDaniel

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He will be a PR nightmare for any team!

Whoa there!!! do I know you

Posted by: calalily1972

We might have chatted a few times

Posted by: sara

WHY? So he can abuse more innocent animals? He should be without a job the rest of his life!

Posted by: Doublebase

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WHY? So he can abuse more innocent animals? He should be without a job the rest of his life!

He did pay his debt to society. If he didn't have a job for the rest of his life then we would be paying for him. I say let the man work.

Posted by: IainDaniel

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He did pay his debt to society. If he didn't have a job for the rest of his life then we would be paying for him. I say let the man work.

There are many jobs where you commit a crime, you won't be allowed to work for certain organizations.

That said, he is an overrated QB. I hope the experience opened his eyes, I know he has done some work with local SPCA's speaking against dog fighting.

Posted by: KelJu

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

He did pay his debt to society. If he didn't have a job for the rest of his life then we would be paying for him. I say let the man work.

Sure, he did is time and the government should not prevent him from working for any company that would have him. If a team hires him, I would have no problem with it.

However, I do not root for shitheads. I will never get behind any team that he plays for and I will not pay a single cent to watch him play. If a ball club signs him knowing that there are people out there with the same opinion as i have, so be it.

Posted by: sara

You dont hurt animals like that and you feel sorry about it.. SPCA's speaker? he is doing that for his own benefit not because he is sorry and he learned his lesson.. its in his blood!

Posted by: Doublebase

What the?
Quarterback Michael Vick signs deal with Eagles - Yahoo! News

Posted by: david100proof

no he sighed with the eagles 2 yr deal

Posted by: JerseyDevil

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

What the?
Quarterback Michael Vick signs deal with Eagles - Yahoo! News

No shit!?!?

Posted by: JerseyDevil

I am torn on this. I do think that he paid his "debt to society", but at the same time anyone capable of doing what he did is a cruel, heartless son of a bitch, and I doubt serving time will change that.

Posted by: I Are Baboon

Philly, eh? Interesting. Well, anything to increase their chances of beating those Dallas and New York homobutts.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

I don't get this move if they keep him under center. McNabb is lightyears ahead of him wrt passing, and the Wildcat formation is just another reason for them to pass (Something the Eagles don't need). Even though Kolb is out, Feeley played very well last night. I guess he is a decent insurance policy, but if they intend on playing him at QB it is a waste.

Posted by: I Are Baboon

McNabb is a Hall of fame QB in his prime. I can't imagine the plan is to use Vick at QB full time. Probably a tailback, third wideout, and of course under center in the Wildcat.

Posted by: IainDaniel

The way philly players are going down this preseason, they need anything they can get.

I am just glad the Packers didn't get him.

Posted by: P-funk

I'd put him at running back.

patrick

Posted by: I Are Baboon

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I'd put him at running back.

patrick

He would get destroyed.

Posted by: bio-chem

good signing. PETA needs to shut the hell up

Posted by: ALBOB

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I'd put him at running back.

patrick

Ditto. When's the last time Westbrook played an entier 16 game season AND the playoffs? Never. He has not one time in his entire career been healthy for an entire season. So now they have someone who's a double threat to run and/or pass to spell someone who can catch and run. Defenses won't have a clue what's coming at them.

(And in the biggest case of situational ethics this century, I like the move. Gooooooo EAGLES!!!)

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

PETA needs to shut the hell up

Posted by: I Are Baboon

PETA is still calling out Vick because he has not done any work for them specifically since being released from prison. They ignore the fact that he's working with the ASPCA and Humane Society. But, not for PETA, so they still bitch and moan. God they suck.

Posted by: Doublebase

I'm excited to see what he's gonna add to the team. Now the question is, what round should fantasy owners take him???

Posted by: TrojanMan60563

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Speaking against dog fighting is one thing. But honestly that is not what pisses me off about Vick. That man tortured animals and that is not something you speak out against. What do you say? "kids dont be a sick fuck like me and torture animals for your own sick pleasures". All the time in the world behind bars will not change that this man is sick in the head. I dont agree with fighting animals, but what he did was far beyond this.

It should be an honor to be a professional athlete and only those that work hard and live decent lives should have the opportunity. The NFL is sorry for even letting him back in to play. That man would not get a job at McDonalds with his criminal record for christ sake. I have friends that have done far less and can't get jobs.

Our government is so worried about the pro sports players being idols for the youth, and steroids being such a bad influence. What about this? What good is it encouraging the youth that you can be a pro player and get away with crimes and being a convicted felon? Government needs to stop worrying about drugs and start pushing these organizations to ban criminals.

Sports for the poor is often a way out...it shouldn't be a way to continue a shit head lifesytle without worry of losing your multi-million dollar a year job.

Posted by: bio-chem

the guy spends 2 years in jail and looses 100 million dollars. time to move on people. justice has been served and now its time to let everyone move on with their lives.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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the guy spends 2 years in jail and looses 100 million dollars. time to move on people. justice has been served and now its time to let everyone move on with their lives.

He didn't lose 100million dollars, most of that is what he could have had had he not been an asshole criminal. That's not money lost, that's money not earned because of what he did. He didn't pay his debt to society imo, but who am I? I am happy the Pats didn't pick him up, but from a business standpoint, this is a great move by the Eagles. Eagles fans care about the bottom line, and if they win a Super Bowl and Vick is involved, they will forget all about his past transgressions.

Posted by: bio-chem

I guess it depends on how you look at cost. what more should the guy do in your opinion to pay his debt to society?

Posted by: Dale Mabry

I honestly think he should be behind bars for at least 2-4 more years. Dog or not, this guy took the lives of many for his own pleasure and profit. Now, one could make the argument that someone selling cattle for food did the same thing, but this went far beyond that. Honestly, justice would be done if he were put in a cage with an angry rottweiler for 3 5 minute rounds. At the end, they both walk out...maybe. Harsh maybe, but I watched that Dogtown show with his dogs. I cannot imagine what those poor animals went through, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that at the end of each one of those shows Mike Vick is lucky he wasn't in the same room as me, because he would have never made it out in a single piece.

Posted by: bio-chem

sounds about right. but as far as our justice system is concerned he served his time. 2 years is a punishment to me for cruelty to animals. i don't think vick is a high risk for reoffending

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

sounds about right. but as far as our justice system is concerned he served his time. 2 years is a punishment to me for cruelty to animals. i don't think vick is a high risk for reoffending

I agree on him not offending again, but 2 years is not enough for what he did, IMO. However, just because that is my opinion doesn't mean the man doesn't deserve the right to make a living.

Posted by: JerseyDevil

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Best post in this thread TM.

You have a pitbull right? So I can see where you would be especially outraged. You see my avi, if someone tortured her, I would kill them in a heartbeat, and of course I would go to prison for life.

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

sounds about right. but as far as our justice system is concerned he served his time. 2 years is a punishment to me for cruelty to animals. i don't think vick is a high risk for reoffending

are you really this stupid?

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by Prince

are you really this stupid?

what part of that did you disagree with o wise one

Posted by: TrojanMan60563

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

sounds about right. but as far as our justice system is concerned he served his time. 2 years is a punishment to me for cruelty to animals. i don't think vick is a high risk for reoffending

You are ignorant. His issue is not about gambling or smoking weed. Its about his beyond cruel treatment to animals. Fighting dogs is cruel behavior to allow or encourage. But drowning, shocking, and hanging dogs to their deaths is behavior of a disturbed human. There is no justification for getting off on this type of behavior. This type of conduct is not something you just turn off.

I have a good friend who knows a pit bull breeder in southern IL that sold a lot of dogs to Vick over MANY years. It wasnt until after the bust that people figured out what this man was doing. FYI this man was arrested for selling him the dogs, and I wouldn't be shocked if he is still sitting behind bars today while Vick walks free and goes on making millions.

Posted by: TrojanMan60563

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Yes I do have an 8 year old male pit. He is a very well behaved dog and I treat him like a member of the family. Its hard being a responsible pit bull owner when you have so many people against you based mostly on the breed. People like Vick do not help this cause. I think they had a show on tv on his dogs showing how they are good, and some have gone on to do great things. I hope that is what people remember however I doubt that will be the case.

Seeing any animal treated this way makes my blood boil. If it were up to me he would never see the light of day.

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Exactly how am I ignorant? i never said his issue was about gambling or smoking weed. I accept that Vick was cruel to animals. Others on this board have agreed with me that Vick is not a high risk repeat offender. you need to calm your ass down before you go running your mouth. You may not think that he has been punished enough, and I don't have a problem with that opinion, but the guy served 2 years, is bankrupt, and out of jail. It's time for him to move on and be a productive member of society instead of a drain on the justice system. He is an athlete that makes money being an athlete.

Posted by: irishteen

What happened with michael vick and dogs?

I heard his song 'get em boi'

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

It should be an honor to be a professional athlete and only those that work hard and live decent lives should have the opportunity.

And i'm sure that out of protest that professional athletes don't have to live up to your standards of high moral character you don't watch any professional sporting event.

your criteria has nothing to do with being a professional athlete. many professional athletes don't live "decent lives" but if you can compete on an elite level then you have a multi-million dollar job. and thats how it should be.

Posted by: TrojanMan60563

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I say you are ignorant for thinking he is not a high risk for repeat offender. This is not a new found interest that got him in trouble. He has done this for a long time. Secondly its not just fighting dogs, its his psycho behaviors that will likely be repeated. Like him handing out his disease to people without as much as a warning. Or testing positive for weed while waiting for his sentence. All things that show the type of guy he is. I do not feel bad he spent time in jail, has no money, filed bankruptcy, or if the NFL told him to take a hike. He is a total shit bag that will not change.

There are plenty of talented kids being drafted that are not convicted felons, and deserve to have that elite status as a pro athlete. The NFL would not be at a great loss without him. Nobody missed his ass while he was gone, and his old team didn't even want him back not only due to the figthing issue, but many other things that he did that brought negative attention to the team.

Just because he went to jail and can throw a ball does not mean he should get another chance. If any of us did that we would have to accept we would be fucked out of our careers most likely, and would have to take a shit job to support life.

Posted by: TrojanMan60563

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

And i'm sure that out of protest that professional athletes don't have to live up to your standards of high moral character you don't watch any professional sporting event.

Actually I don't watch a lot of sporting events, and I don't think what these athletes make is justified. They are entertainers....CEO's of huge companies that actually do productive things for society make just a small fraction of what some of the top NFL guys make. Baseball is even worse. Doctors that save lives daily make what a bench warmer for the bears make and that person doesn't even play. That seems logical to me.

When I say lead a decent life I am not saying they need to go to church, help old ladies cross the road, or not cheat on their spouse. I am saying they should not be fuckin criminals. Just because they are able to compete with the best doesn't mean they are owed anything. Nobody owes Vick a job because he can throw a football. However the NFL organization should hold athletes to some standards to ensure quality people are getting what they deserve and criminals are not rewarded.

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

The NFL is not the police.I personally think that cheating on a spouse is much worse than dog fighting, but that is just me. the reason why nfl quarterbacks make millions of dollars and surgeons only make hundreds of thousands is because there are more guys capable of doing the job of a surgeon than playing NFL quarterback. this is simple economics. arguments like yours are the same ones communists use, and we've seen how effective that system is. By the way, the highest paid CEO last year made 700 million in total compensation. Just food for thought

You really think this guy is going to start funding another dog fighting ring?

Posted by: TrojanMan60563

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If the NFL does not employ criminals that does not make them the police. If that is the case the majority of legit companies out there have the title of Police. It has to do with business ethic and reputation. McDonalds does not hire violent criminals because they do not want to put their customers at risk, or taint their reputation as a company. My reference to income is a doctor compared to a Bears bench warmer that never plays. I can see the best getting paid more then the worst, but seriously the worst in the NFL get paid more then most doctors. How is my view of the NFL not allowing felons play considered a communist view? Most companies will entertain hiring felons or people convicted of violent crimes. Most people in jail are not on their first rodeo either.

Do I think he will fund another fighting ring? First off he did far more then fund a fighting ring. You keep bringing up the dog fighting or funding aspect of this as if that is the most disturbing part of his crime. THIS MAN TORTURED DOGS TO THEIR DEATH....do you hear that? That is sick behavior and by no means should be be rewarded. I do think he will continue with his ghetto ways. He has bad company, shit for parents, and obviously shown many times he has poor judgement. Giving this man a job with a large income is doing nothing more then helping to fund his ghetto fab lifestyle.

You and others who want to hold his nuts based on his ability to play ball need to wake up. His ability to play does not make up for what he has done, and by no means does it mean he should be given his job back.

Posted by: bio-chem

well you have pretty much lost all sense of sanity now. nothing ive said has condoned what he did, and im certainly not holding his nuts. you are passionate about this which is laudable, but unfortuneatley has blinded you to reality to the point that you alienate even those who believe similarly to you. Good luck with your ridiculous notion of how things should be I hope you enjoy your little world

Posted by: TrojanMan60563

My little world? Oh yeah that place where large organizations do not reward violent criminals. Totally a place only fit for the mentally insane such as myself.

Posted by: BigPapaPump68

As an eagles fan im disgusted by this

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