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Posted by: Mags

Hey guys.

This is a log to see how I get on with 1-Andro RX over the next six weeks.

Cycle:
1-Andro RX, 800mg ED for 6 weeks
3000mg Pantothenic Acid ED
2000mg Cod Liver Oil
1000mg Glucosamine

PCT:
Nolvadex
T-911
HMB
Creatine
I will also be looking to buy a cortisol blocker or possibly Anadraulic State if I can get enough cash together as I'm keen to see how that works out.

This will be a bulk. I am going to be eating as much as I can get my hands on (I've read that getting fat on 1-Andro seems to be an almost impossibility), mostly clean but with a few cheat foods from time to time to get in those calories.

Daily cals will be around 4,500-5,000 and protein will be up by 50g ED from maintenance.

My training will concentrate on lower reps, 8 being the highest with focus more on 6 down to 4.

I'm expecting some size gains but not the same sort as I experienced with my H-drol/1-T stack. However, I am expecting to see some good gains in strength. I am hoping to see my bench and deadlift weight increase significantly.

Feel free to tag along and add anything.

Cheers.

Mags.

Posted by: Mags

Okay, here's my findings after one week:

Weight:

Up by 7lbs. Obviously, not all of it is muscle and I did weigh myself after having a day's amount of food in me. However, I'm not looking bloated or fat and generally feel fuller. And it's a good psychological boost to see my scales half a stone up, regardless.

Strength:

UP! Most compound lifts are up by 20-30lbs (and that's including decent reps on my heaviest sets, not just one or two). It doesn't sound much, but my earlier sets seem to be easier allowing my final 'all out' set to be more achievable.

Drive:

I feel more confident in adding weight with each session, and am more ferocious and determined in my approach. I don't seem to go into any set with doubts about my ability to lift the weight. I feel almost invincible and machine-like, like I want to smash the set and show the weight who's boss. Sounds gay and a bit OTT (and typically 'product profile': 'Oh, this product is so great, I feel like an animal in the gym' etc), but it's an accurate account of how I'd describe it. Obviously, this may be akin to a placebo effect too: I know I'm 'on' 1-Andro so feel like I should be shifting weight easily. However, I don't think it is - placebo gets me so far, but not this far.

Recovery and endurance:

Recovery is up overall and even in each session. For example, After flat benching and then incline, the seated machine press is a killer for me: I can barely do the stack for reps. However, yesterday's chest session saw me go as heavy as I've been in ages on flat and incline and then the seated press saw me lift the stack for five sets, reps diminishing down to six by the last set. Usually, I'm burnt out at this point in the session and have to drop the weight each set. This time, every set I did felt like I was starting afresh - my chest seemed to be recharged after only a minute or so rest.

Sides:

My face goes a bit red - almost gets a pump, too.

Skin's got a little pimply. Not rash-like acne, but one or two clusters of spots have appeared over my back, shoulders and upper arms - one or two are 'big-ish', but most are small and easily appear then heal. No real biggie at the moment.

Hunger seems a bit suppressed.

So that's one week gone, five more to go. These results are probably from a mix of placebo, calories being increased and, of course, the 1-Andro effectively kicking in. Hopefully I'll be able to get more balanced results as the cycle progresses, with novelty and possible placebo making way for 'feel' and stat-based gains. Having said that, so far I'm happy with 1-Andro as I thought it would take longer to see effects from it. To get this much out of it in just one week is great.

See y'all next week.

Posted by: Mags

Second week:

Weight:

Up by 4lbs.

Strength:

Not as dramatic a jump this week. Having said that, my deadlift was up by 10kg and I reckon I could've pushed (one or two reps) 20kg more. I am going to attempt that in week three. My bench, however, seemed a bit harder. My heaviest set was up by a rep, but it all seemed a lot harder than last week. I still had that systematic feel about the movement (it's odd to describe, but when I'm on a PH my movements become very machine-like. I lower the weight and push it back up as usual, but, as I begin to fatigue, the weight still goes up at a similar pace. It seems I'm more in tune with the lift mentally - as if will power is lifting it despite my chest contracting - and there isn't so much a decline in energy as the reps progress. I hope that didn't sound too weird ). Overall, my lifts have gone up slightly or the reps have crept up on my heaviest sets.

Drive:

I seem 'back to normal' with my focus. I don't seem to have the tenacity or 'fired up' feeling as much. I'm not sure if it's fatigue, the mood I'm in at the time or simply that the novelty placebo's worn off. The only lifts I get psyched for is the leg press and my deadlift. Usually, my bench benefits from this, too, but not so much this week. However, I think I was, unfairly, expecting another strength leap of 10kgs, similar to last week. That didn't happen. Next week, though, I'm not going to expect so much (I guess I'm going to try and trick myself) yet ensure I'm 'up' for benching and get some aggression going like usual.

Recovery and endurance:

Recovery is good. Much better than when not 'on' 1-Andro. My lower back used to fatigue so badly after my heaviest deadlift set, my legs would go a little numb (I know, not a good sign) and I'd need to sit down for about 10 minutes before the next exercise. This wasn't a factor this week. I was feeling great going into my last set and felt relatively normal afterwards - no sit down or long break needed. Also, the lower back thing isn't painful, it's just that feeling you get when your muscle is so fatigued it's simply got no more to give - like an ache or lactic acid burn.

Sides:

ACNE! This is awful. I've never had such bad skin even as a teenager. I expected it to an extent, but this isn't good at all. It's not rash-like, by any means, but I have spots over my chest, my shoulders, my arms (even my forearms), by face and even on the top my head (who gets spots ON their head?). They're a mix of big red ones that never seem to 'come up', yellow-headed ones and loads of tiny little whiteheads that come up within hours and easily pop with a sap-like puss. Gross, I know, but thought I'd give you the details. My skin is not so much oily, but rather generally greasy all of the time. I experienced some acne at the end of my H-drol/1-T cycle when I was, in fact, off of those PHs and on the natural test booster etc, but nothing as bad as this.

One thing I will say is that I don't usually have spotty skin, but I do have to look after it to stop it getting so. I get the odd one every now and then, but nothing that'd give me any hang-ups. Therefore, some of you lucky folks could use this PH and not get any acne at all. I am running a higer dose of 1-Andro, and I guess I don't react to it too well in this instance.

Hunger seems back to normal.

Constipated from time to time.

Consistency/viscousity of stools varies. They are always soft or slightly 'sloppy'. Apologies again for the gross out.

I'm not all that happy with 1-Andro this week. But I think that's to do with the gains not being as great as I thought they'd be after last week (I thought I was lucky in that most felt their gains began in the second week, so I thought I was reacting better than most by having them - or seeming to - in week one) and the massive increase in acne. However, these things need time and 1-Andro is a PH, not a miracle pill. But, no matter what I think of feel, I can't argue with the fact that everything is still up: strength, endurance, weight and side effects. Three out of four's not bad

Week three is next. Will report back then.

Cheers.

Posted by: bigpapabuff

Thanks for the information, please keep it coming.

Posted by: Pirate!

Very informative. Didn't give me any acne at 600mg, which surprised me.

Posted by: Mags

I've upped my dose of pantothenic acid to 6g ED. This hasn't completely ridden me of the acne, but it has calmed it down significantly. Just finished my third week, so will update this evening.

Posted by: Prince

Mags, just curious since you are in the UK, did Bodybuilding.com ship 1-Andro Rx to you?

Posted by: ClosingTime

I just finished a Tren/H-drol cycle two weeks ago. I'm interested in Trying 1-Andro. Would it be acceptable to stack this with anything (ie. another PH?)

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClosingTime

I just finished a Tren/H-drol cycle two weeks ago. I'm interested in Trying 1-Andro. Would it be acceptable to stack this with anything (ie. another PH?)

you can, but it does work well alone.

Posted by: Mags

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

Mags, just curious since you are in the UK, did Bodybuilding.com ship 1-Andro Rx to you?

Yes, I think it was two separate times: one batch of four bottles and a second batch of just two about two or so months apart (I think this was just before you guys starting shipping internationally). The second lot I managed to pick up significantly cheaper as they had 25% off on their site of selected products, and I had a 25% voucher from them after the first batch. Both got through with no problems.

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mags

cool, good to know!

Posted by: Mags

Third week:

Weight:

Down by 4lbs

(but still +7lbs since starting)

Strength:

I was still able to bench my heaviest, but it seemed a hell of a lot harder this week and I was only able to get 3-4 reps instead of the usual 5-6. I was hoping to get a solid six reps this week now the cycle's well underway. Having said that, my shoulder has been giving me a bit of aggro (once it's warmed up it can deal with the weight, but I'm not sure if it gives me some sort of subconscious worry going into the final heavy sets). I've also started training chest twice a week (to get 12 chest workouts during the cycle rather than just six and make full use of the increased strength and recovery) with a different set of exrcises (still around 6-4 reps) so I think, despite having three days rest between chest workouts, maybe I've not given myself sufficient time to recover. After all, I've never trained one body part twice a week before. Maybe I'm just looking for excuses, I don't know.

Although the benching seems to have hit a slight sticking point, my leg press has jumped up (this is the main lift for me leg-wise as I get good growth from it. I also no longer squat after it put me out of training for about 7 months with a back injury) and my deadlift has risen, too. The weight I use for triceps (close-grip press, weighted dips and cable pushdowns) are all up and the reps are increasing as well. Apart from my bench, all lifts are going up - my deadlift has increased by over 80lbs so far. I put this down to both muscle memory ( I used to do heavy deads about two years ago) and the 1-Andro.

Drive:

Similar to last week. Not as fired up - feel like I normally do in the gym when off cycle. However, if folks are watching/encouraging (I train at an oldschool iron-plate gym where only powerlifters and bodybuilders train, so there's no 'show offs' etc, but rather fellow lifters who drive you on) I soon find that agression and smash out the set. Again, deadlifts are a good example of this.

Recovery and endurance:

Good. If I have a two minute rest between sets (I usually only have a minute unless I'm going for really low reps/failure, then the rest period increases), I'm almost good as new and fresh to go again. For example, although my flat bench lifts were down, my incline lift, which I do second in my routine, is going up and when I get on the seated press, I can do the stack for five good sets. Beforehand, I'd begin to fade power-wise toward the final sets with the heaviest weight. Not the case at the moment.

Sides:

Acne is still an issue, but more under control now. I only get the little white heads that come and go quickly. I'm going to hop on a sunbed briefly tomorrow which tends to help sort them out.

Hunger seems repressed at times. Still managing to get most of my meals in, though.

Digestion seems back to normal.

Bizarrely my weight is down this week. I guess the added 4lbs from last week was just a day's worth of food and water in me. Overall, however, I'm still up 7lbs since starting the cycle. I would've liked to have seen a more anabolic effect, or one that would seem to match my substantial strength increases. I've added a good deal more protein to every meal and raised carbs where I can, so I feel I'm covered from a nutritional point of view. I thought I might be losing fat, but I don't seem any leaner of vascular. When I ran the 1-T and H-drol, I leaned out amazingly yet still put on a massive amount of size for what were 'only' PHs. I'm hoping I'll see a bit more growth over the second half of the cycle.

So, this week: sides down (can they be down, or would they be 'less severe'?), weight down, strength up, recovery still great.

Cheers.

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