This is a huge issue, and it will be very controversial.

My opinion, while I do feel as if some people shouldn't be able to procreate, I don't feel as if anyone should be the one to lay that restriction on them. So many people have the mindset of: why the hell would I bring a child into this shit world. And those who don't care and breed like bunnies are overpopulating.

Wealth should be the furthest thing from determining who is eligible for something such as this. There are a lot of smart people who don't care about wealth, and there are the same amount of people who are richer beyond anything, who are dumbasses. Just because someone didn't have daddy pay their way through college/university, or inherit millions of dollars, doesn't mean they should be prevented from going about their life like everyone else.

We are all human, no one is superior over another.. at least we shouldn't be. Sadly, there are many who do feel as though they are superior, which is something I will never completely understand.

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Oh man, I probably didn't understand the question as it was meant.

I am Canadian, so this sort of thing is a non-issue as it is covered by provincial health plans. Obviously voluntarily, I would agree that it should be funded by the government, for anyone who chooses (even the wealthy).

To the posts above, wealth isn't the determining factor. Being a pathetic failure and a drain on the resources is the determining factor. It just so happens that most of the people on welfare fall into this category.

I would go another step and say that each family is allowed to have only two kids. If a man has conceived two living people he has a mandatory vasectomy. If a woman has given birth to two living people she has a mandatory tubal ligation.

Only healthy productive members of society should be allowed to breed. This reverse Darwinism shit needs to end. We are headed for another dark age.

And to add to kelju thought most don't want to improve themselfs, they look at the gov handout as free money then say repubs are evil..ect

The father is sick with sniffles, the mother has TB. They have 4 children. The first is blind, the second is dead. The third is deaf and the fourth has TB. The mother finds she is pregnant again. Given the extreme situation, would you recommend abortion?







you would have killed Beethoven.

The father is sick with sniffles, the mother has TB. They have 4 children. The first is blind, the second is dead. The third is deaf and the fourth has TB. The mother finds she is pregnant again. Given the extreme situation, would you recommend abortion?







you would have killed Beethoven.

The poor deserve to be poor.

I would gladly have performed the abortion myself! If it means we can reduce poverty and ignorance, then losing a few scientist and composers is worth the cost. Working at a critical access hospital has opened my eyes. You guys have no idea how much money is flushed down the drain providing heath care to people on medicare and medicaid. It is obscene!

Now, I'm not completely heartless. I think we are doing the right thing helping those who can't seem to help themselves, but continuing the cycle is dumb. These people obviously can't be trusted with to not be a burden and create future generations of burdens on society. They lower the collective consciousness.

most do not want to get out of the problem..its true sad but true..but there are those 1% that do the work and make it happen...just saying

I was there, I know the truth of that.

To the posts above, wealth isn't the determining factor. Being a pathetic failure and a drain on the resources is the determining factor. It just so happens that most of the people on welfare fall into this category.

I would go another step and say that each family is allowed to have only two kids. If a man has conceived two living people he has a mandatory vasectomy. If a woman has given birth to two living people she has a mandatory tubal ligation.

Only healthy productive members of society should be allowed to breed. This reverse Darwinism shit needs to end. We are headed for another dark age.

They should offer a monetary reward, Nascar and Wrastlin tickets, and a pair of fuzzy dice to any man who volunteers for a vasectomy....
For women manicure coupons, free weave service for one year and the latest and greatest in pink phones encased in rhinestones.....

The father is sick with sniffles, the mother has TB. They have 4 children. The first is blind, the second is dead. The third is deaf and the fourth has TB. The mother finds she is pregnant again. Given the extreme situation, would you recommend abortion?







you would have killed Beethoven.

They should offer a monetary reward, Nascar and Wrastlin tickets, and a pair of fuzzy dice to any man who volunteers for a vasectomy....
For women manicure coupons, free weave service for one year and the latest and greatest in pink phones encased in rhinestones.....

this worked fabulously for Adolf Hitler, it's about time true facism got it's dues . .

well he did purge all the mental people first..so

Who determins what is the criteria for "healthy productive"? What do you say about someone like Stephen Hawking? He's not exactly the healthiest specimen of human being but he's not exactly a mental wasteland either. A comparable question came up on the radio the other day - Dick Cheney, former US Vice Pres, very recently had a pump put on his heart as a bridging therapy until he can get a heart transplant. He's 69 yrs old so on the outer edge of the criteria for those who "qualify" for a viable and healthy transplant. He's had 5 heart attacks. He's a very wealthy person, former VP. Some people think he's a piece of shit who never should've been born. Some respect him for what he's accomplished in his life. Do you think he's going to get equal treatment w/ those already on the list for a heart transplant or is he going to get moved up the list because of who he is? Does who he is, justify giving him a chance, over others, to continue to live?

this worked fabulously for Adolf Hitler, it's about time true facism got it's dues . .

so all the retarded ginger-haired jews were pretty much fucked from the get-go then

Stephen Hawking is still contributing to society in the form of knowledge. On top of that, his DNA is priceless. Damn shame is illness is genetic. They should take his DNA and try to preserve it until they have a cure for ALS. Then women could use his DNA to make tons of little Hawking geniuses.

Dick Chaney has taken infinitely more from society than a welfare mother ever could. But that's my opinion. The facts are that he is an accomplished man and public servant. He will not get equal treatment most likely. I am sure that evil prick has a few tricks up his sleeve to get a new ticker.

Lol, actually it did. The Germans, pound for pound, whooped the dog shit out of everybody. He had some pretty weird plans for selective breeding. His Ape/Human hybrid idea was freaky weird.

Stephen Hawking is still contributing to society in the form of knowledge. On top of that, his DNA is priceless. Damn shame is illness is genetic. They should take his DNA and try to preserve it until they have a cure for ALS. Then women could use his DNA to make tons of little Hawking geniuses.

Dick Chaney has taken infinitely more from society than a welfare mother ever could. But that's my opinion. The facts are that he is an accomplished man and public servant. He will not get equal treatment most likely. I am sure that evil prick has a few tricks up his sleeve to get a new ticker.

I'd be okay with a federally funded plan to pay for sterilization for anyone that asks.

It should never, ever be forced on someone. The government should never be able to go anywhere near that sort of power. Ever.

I'd be okay with a federally funded plan to pay for sterilization for anyone that asks.

It should never, ever be forced on someone. The government should never be able to go anywhere near that sort of power. Ever.

This.

I don't think you guys understand the true spirit of this thread.

what's a 'partial' abortion???

no way he has bad genetics for bodybuilding hes definately not alpha, matter of fact, i could run up on him and kill him with my fingers

Well back then and up through 1900 any child who lived past the age of 1 year old was considered having a slightly decent chance of reaching adulthood.... Did you know the Hawaiians didn't name their baby until after it's first birthday so that they wouldn't have a name to remember when it died.....

so how come you haven't killed yourself yet? You staying alive just to piss me off?

Alabama abortionists are the best!

What?
The?
Fuck?

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Really, what the fuck is the story behind the image? Where did you even find this?

In my "Japanese WTF kiddie-cartoon porn" folder. Do you not have one?

what's a 'partial' abortion???

what's a 'partial' abortion???

Off the subject, but felt this could be another issue for public knowledge with taxes:

I feel those that have STD that can kill, should be on a list that people can then access, so the less of the disease is spread, and we have less chance of getting it and dying young.

This is a damn good point. I think everyone who fucks someone without telling them they have an STD should serve time and should owe money damages to the person they infected. That shit is fucked up, and people do it all of the time.

If a woman knowingly gave me aids without telling me she was infected, I would have to kill her.

Get your hands of my thread you damn dirty Ape....

Get your hands of my thread you damn dirty Ape....

Fact of the matter easily here is:
GOVT is moving towards socialism...
Free health care.
Unlimited unemployment.
Outsourcing manufacturing.
Major funds posted into free energy (which GOVT can then regulate)

All they need to do is start handing out GOVT "Medals" of achievement,
for corporate jobs well done, instead of letting the
inventors reap his/or/her actual financial reward and growth.