Two 19s at the same time is a nono, for me at least it is.


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He's taking 600mg test, 300mg tren and 400mg deca weekly. How is that low?

why the low dosages, 1st time cycle?

Revised:

1-10 Test C 300mg/2Xweek
1-10 Tren A 50-75mg/4Xweek
1-10 Deca 100mg/2Xweek
Or
1-10 NPP 50mg/4Xweek

Revised:

1-10 Test C 300mg/2Xweek
1-10 Tren A 50-75mg/4Xweek
1-10 Deca 100mg/2Xweek
Or
1-10 NPP 50mg/4Xweek

Revised:

1-10 Test C 300mg/2Xweek
1-10 Tren A 50-75mg/4Xweek
1-10 Deca 100mg/2Xweek
Or
1-10 NPP 50mg/4Xweek

You need to run more test than 300mg with the other compounds you are taking.

Revised:

1-10 Test C 300mg/2Xweek
1-10 Tren A 50-75mg/4Xweek
1-10 Deca 100mg/2Xweek
Or
1-10 NPP 50mg/4Xweek

So if i'm reading this right your going to run:

600mg test
200-300mg tren
200mg deca

????????

Are you bulking or cutting? Re-comp doesn't tell much. There are better options available.

Yes... That is the proposed cycle. It's basically a recomp/cut cycle. I'm currently 6'2", 273 at 18-19% bf and 40 years old. I'd like to retain as much muscle and even grow a bit more while cutting. The deca, like I said, was just for joint comfort. My overall goal is to get to 240-250 range at 11-12% bf. Once I'm there, I'll decide where to go.

Please give me some cycle suggestions. I made progress with this cycle I'm on, but my diet was not spot on enough either way (to grow or cut bf). I basically got stronger, added muscle and got leaner.

As far as recomp/cutting... Would you suggest eating at caloric maintenance or deficit?

Thanks

If it were me I would just run the test and NPP.

600mg test EW
100mg NPP EOD

NPP will work the same as deca, is stronger than deca mg vs. mg and will hit your system quicker. It will also have you retaining zero water weight.

If you're cutting correctly, you're not going to be gaining any size. Safe that for maintenance or bulking.

I don't count calories while I'm cutting I just use a simple guide of: 7oz. of meat per meal with 1 1/2 cup veggies and lots of nuts and seeds. Zero cardio until I get down to 7-8% BF.

If you know what you're doing and have the diet down you can have up to 3 cheat meals a week and still drop weight.

He's running 600mg test. 300 pinned twice a week.

does naps carry npp? Can't seem to find it

Isn't it correct to say that NPP won't yield the same "Joint comfort" as the deca estered version because of less water retention?

Yes, it is the same compound just different esters.

Thats not really an answer to his question

Misread his question, my bad, I thought he was asking about collagen synthesis. NPP will hold less water so I would imagine nandrolone is a better choice for joints.

Daym now I'm fvcked up. I read and thought that NPP was just as good for COLLAGEN SYNTHESIS as DECA. I myself am leaning towards NPP because it retains less water than DECA and from what I've read does promote COLLAGEN SYNTHESIS in edition to the fact it leaves the body quickly. Will someone help me understand this better

It is just as good for collage synthesis, it is not as good as deca in water retention in your joints.

So is it safer to assume that even though NPP does promote COLLAGEN SYNTHESIS DECA will take the pain away faster by putting water in your joints and rebuild COLLAGEN. If this is the case I just learned some additional sh1t. Hey dude sorry for hijacking your thread.