Ok my buddy is 2 weeks out of his pct from a 12 week test e and dbol cycle, pct was nolvadex, he is still having trouble with his libido. I told him to get blood work, otherwise it is probably all in his head and to give it time. He usually listens to me and for some reason on this matter he won't, so I told him I'd ask around on the boards. So any suggestions for supplements? He won't accept the mental explanation. Thanks for the help in advance.
Posted by: juggernaut
Nolvadex is really the answer, but to up his libido, have him use some extra zinc and arginine for ED.
Sexual aggression is another area, it may be just time to readjust only because he may be used to the overcharged feelings of increased test. He can try trib (german trib), but I'm not really certain if it works or not. Horny goat weed might be of use. The problem is, most of the this shit doesnt work much, if at all.
Posted by: SFW
hcg followed by Clomid + Nolva would of been a better option. Tadalafil or sildenafil is a good addition to your PCT toolbox as well. He should look into that.
Also, Adding in extra saturated fat and cholesterol to the diet (as well as zinc as previously stated) are all good ideas, too.
Posted by: juggernaut
Saturated fats, good one. I almost forgot that one. sildenafil = viagra. Good for boners, but I think this geared towards the mental aspect.
Posted by: stfuandliftbtch
your buddy?
whats up with all these posts people put up about asking for help for there friends.
Tell your friend to do his own fucking research!! jesus Christtt
Posted by: juggernaut
Originally Posted by stfuandliftbtch
your buddy?
whats up with all these posts people put up about asking for help for there friends.
Tell your friend to do his own fucking research!! jesus Christtt
You're on an asshole rampage arent you?
Posted by: Rodja
His prolactin could still be off. Macuna and B-6 could help to lower it and increase libido.
Posted by: juggernaut
Originally Posted by Rodja
His prolactin could still be off. Macuna and B-6 could help to lower it and increase libido.
Great points. I thought the same thing, but I just couldnt formulate what I was trying to say. Good job.
Posted by: Del1964
Tribulus may help
Posted by: MDR
And it may not.
Posted by: HATEFULone
Thanks for the suggestions, I was thinking some resveratrol as well, I've read it can help with libido.
Posted by: juggernaut
Originally Posted by HATEFULone
Thanks for the suggestions, I was thinking some resveratrol as well, I've read it can help with libido.
I did a quick search on PubMed and came up with this:
Departament de Fisiologia, Facultat de Farmàcia, Universitat de Barcelona, E-08028 Barcelona, Spain.
Abstract
trans-Resveratrol was reported to have health benefits including anticarcinogenic effects and protection against cardiovascular disease. One of the mechanisms by which it exerts its action is through modulating the estrogen response systems. Because estrogen is involved in male reproductive biology, we investigated the effect of trans-resveratrol on testis and spermatogenesis. Adult male rats were divided into 2 groups. The treated group was administered by gavage 20 mg/(kg . d) of trans-resveratrol suspended in 10 g/L of carboxymethylcellulose for 90 d, whereas the control group received only carboxymethylcellulose during the same period. The relative weight of testes did not differ between the groups. However, the diameter of the seminiferous tubules was significantly reduced from 437.5 +/- 0.1 mum in the controls to 310.9 +/- 0.1 mum in the resveratrol-treated rats. This decrease was accompanied by a significant increase in tubular density, from 3.20 +/- 0.18 in controls to 6.58 +/- 0.18 tubules/mm(2) in the treated group. Moreover, sperm counts were significantly greater in the resveratrol-treated rats (24.8 +/- 3.30 x 10(7)) than in the control group (14.1 +/- 0.80 x 10(7)), but sperm quality did not differ. Serum concentrations of gonadotrophins and testosterone were significantly higher in the resveratrol-treated group. We identified a novel activity of trans-resveratrol. The daily oral administration of this phytochemical to adult male rats enhanced sperm production by stimulating the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis, without inducing adverse effects.
This is in vivo, but still, do some research. Might be a good idea to use this.
Posted by: Del1964
Originally Posted by MDR
And it may not.
But it might
Posted by: HATEFULone
Just a few studies I came across backing resveratrol related to increasing testosterone and sperm motility. #3 was the same one you found juggernaut.
1. Resveratrol in Cardioprotection: A Therapeutic Promise of Alternative Medicine
Dipak K. Das et al.
Mol. Interv., Feb 2006; 6: 36 - 47. 2. The Red Wine Polyphenol Resveratrol Displays Bilevel Inhibition on Aromatase in Breast Cancer Cells Yun Wang, et al.
Toxicol. Sci., Jul 2006; 92: 71 - 77. 3. trans-Resveratrol, a Natural Antioxidant from Grapes, Increases Sperm Output in Healthy Rats M. Emília Juan, et al. J. Nutr., Apr 2005; 135: 757 – 760 4. trans-Resveratrol relaxes the corpus cavernosum ex vivo and enhances testosterone levels and sperm quality in vivo. S Shin, et al.
Arch Pharm Res, Jan 2008; 31(1): 83-7.
Posted by: delsolrob
yeah, I've had good luck with adding sustain alpha and TCF-1 to my PCT to help my libido out!
I also use bulk 1-Carboxy and yohimbine HCL as well.
This is in vivo, but still, do some research. Might be a good idea to use this.
the benefits from resveratrol are amazing!
Posted by: smoothasdee
i didnt do a pct and i had some Clomid and Nolva to do it with and now my libido is low could i just use it now even if its been awhile since my cycle and if i just want to start a new cycle soon is it even worth it now?
Posted by: cutright
How long has it been since your cycle...and what did you cycle and for how long?
Posted by: smoothasdee
its been a good 2 months and i was on sust, deca, a-bomb and nolva....for anout 12 weeks..well 4 just for the a-bombs, i gained a good 20lbs that ive keep from 30 that i gained...still need to reach my goal of 210 target weight...so i want to go to about 220 on this next bulk cycle and then cut back to 200-210....
Originally Posted by stfuandliftbtch
