OK, the plan is to place the order first thing tomorrow morning for one cycle's worth of Ergopharm 1-AD and Anodriol Select 300.
I thought stacking the 1-AD with some 4-Andro would be a good way to pack some size on.. I'm not at all concerned with water retention or even bf increases.
So at 6'2, 180, and 21 years old what kind of dosages do you think I should try out for my first 4 week cycle?
And everyone says you should up your calories on this stuff.. I'm at about 2700 now.. how high should I go?
Posted by: dg806
I would start at 300 mg/day of 1-ad to see how that works. Should do fine. Ergopharm suggests 900 mg/day of 4 androdiol. As far as calories most suggest 21-25 calories per lb bodyweight. At 180 this would be between 3780-4500/day. 2700 is not nearly enough for a male to gain muscle. Maybe not even to maintain!
Posted by: Corri
Wow, that's a lot of food!
For the 1-AD cycle, I guess I'll try to get it up closer to those numbers..
And so you would take 300mg of 1-AD AND 900mg of 4-Andro at the same time??
Posted by: dg806
You need to split the dosage into equal dosage three times a day as it's half life is around 6/8 hours. That way you have it in your blood stream 24 hours.
Posted by: Corri
Oh, I understood that..
but I mean if a standard daily dosage of 1-AD is 300mg, you would still take the full 300mg if you're taking it with some 4-Andro on the side?
Posted by: dg806
yes............
Posted by: dg806
Is this your first PH cycle?
Posted by: Corri
Thank you. Just seemed like a lot of Andro.. but that's cool.
Posted by: Corri
Very first!
Posted by: dg806
Just remeber to eat lots of good clean protein(270-350g a day) get plenty of rest and train hard. You will see good results! Are you taking glutamine?
Posted by: Corri
10g of Glutamine and 5g of Creatine..
270's quite a bit for a 180 pound dude.. but I can manage that.
Posted by: dg806
Very good on glutamine and creatine!
Protein should be a min. of 1.5 to 2 g per lb of bodyweight a day.
You could just try the 1-ad if you want and save the 4 andro till next cycle if you want. You would probably get good results from either.
Posted by: Corri
Yeah, maybe I'll try the stack after Christmas instead and just straight 1-AD for now.
Thanks dg!
Posted by: Corri
It was a little expensive for now anyway.. this way I'll have Christmas money for more Andro
Posted by: dg806
Hey, keep us up to date on your progress. I would love to know how you do!
Posted by: dg806
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Originally posted by Corri
It was a little expensive for now anyway.. this way I'll have Christmas money for more Andro
It does get expensive. How many bottles of 1-ad are you doing?
Posted by: Corri
I'll only need 2 for a 4 week cycle at 200 or 300 mg per day.
Posted by: dg806
At three a day, one bottle will last 20 days(almost 4 weeks, should do fine.) then take four weeks off and start the next one!
Posted by: Corri
That's true.. but when have to drop $20 for shipping you don't wanna make little $40 orders..
