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Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Aidan Elliot, Eight, Pepper Sprayed in Colorado Elementary Classroom By Police - ABC News

I don't know about you, but I sure feel better this little felon is off the streets.




Posted by: Chill

They don't play that in CO. where law enforcement is mostly cold at heart.

Maybe those who breed powerlifting kittens will next on the hitlist, be it kid or adult.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote Originally Posted by Chill View Post
They don't play that in CO. where law enforcement is mostly cold at heart.
Cold as the climate eh?

But Certainly not colder than you, of course.



Posted by: Chill

Quote Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts View Post
Cold as the climate eh?
Nothing gets pass you eh?



Posted by: KelJu

Stupid fat mom, stupid kid, and stupid cops. If you took the sum of the IQ of everyone involved in this story, you would still have the IQ of a person with down syndrome.



Posted by: phosphor

I saw this little shit stain on tv a few days ago with his mom - his mom of course enables the kid and blames the cops. Looks like trailer trash of coarse, but thats besides the point. If the kid was getting violent and using objects to hurt or threaten, go ahead and fill the little pisspots eyesockets full of pepper. The mom needs a dose as well.

If any of my kids were acting like that, I would buy the cops dinner afterwards, then go home to the offender and mop the floor up with them.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
I saw this little shit stain on tv a few days ago with his mom - his mom of course enables the kid and blames the cops. Looks like trailer trash of coarse, but thats besides the point. If the kid was getting violent and using objects to hurt or threaten, go ahead and fill the little pisspots eyesockets full of pepper. The mom needs a dose as well.

If any of my kids were acting like that, I would buy the cops dinner afterwards, then go home to the offender and mop the floor up with them.


The kid is a worthless piece of garbage for sure, but a cop has no fucking right to pepper spray a second grade kid. Pepper spray is a defensive weapon, not a tool teach unruly perpetrators a lesson. Same goes for tazors. you don't pepper spray or taze civilians just because they are shit bags.



Posted by: Chill

So easy to say all that shit online just to portray intimidation.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Stupid fat mom, stupid kid, and stupid cops...


Well, you got two out of three right. Only thing the cops did wrong was stop at just pepper spray. They should have beat the little piece of shit to a bloody pulp. Then done the same to mom once she got there.

"They wouldn't let me do what I wanted to."

"Did you really mean to hurt the teacher?
"Yeah, sort of."

"He only misbehaves at school."


Fuck all that shit. Kick his ass until he learns how to act like a decent human being.



Posted by: phosphor

"threatening teachers and students with a sharp piece of wood he held like a knife"

=
Pepperspray.

Chill, do as your namesake. Do you feel intimidated somehow? If so, then you need therapy.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
The kid is a worthless piece of garbage for sure, but a cop has no fucking right to pepper spray a second grade kid. Pepper spray is a defensive weapon, not a tool teach unruly perpetrators a lesson. Same goes for tazors. you don't pepper spray or taze civilians just because they are shit bags.

I do belive that'd be a big fat WRONG. But I'll play just for fun. Go ahead and leave the pepper spary on the cop's belt. Use the billy club instead. We haven't had a good old fashioned Rodney King beating in a long time. Apparently too long if this kid is any indication.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
Well, you got two out of three right. Only thing the cops did wrong was stop at just pepper spray. They should have beat the little piece of shit to a bloody pulp. Then done the same to mom once she got there.

"They wouldn't let me do what I wanted to."

"Did you really mean to hurt the teacher?
"Yeah, sort of."

"He only misbehaves at school."


Fuck all that shit. Kick his ass until he learns how to act like a decent human being.


Yeah, the kid is a piece of shit. But that doesn't mean super trooper has the right to blast a fucking second grade kid with pepper spray. That shithead pepper sprayed the kid for fun, and now that fat cunt of a mother probably deserves money over the issue now.



Posted by: Chill

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
Well, you got two out of three right. Only thing the cops did wrong was stop at just pepper spray. They should have beat the little piece of shit to a bloody pulp.
Yeah that sounds real smart, to make the cops look worse than the kid.

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
Chill, do as your namesake. Do you feel intimidated somehow? If so, then you need therapy.
Intimidated? What brought you to that totally warped assumption?

That's actually the funniest joke I've read all day. Bet you got a million of them.



Posted by: vortrit

Did everyone watch the whole interview? I mean the kid did pull a board off the wall or something and still says he really wanted to kill someone. His mom really is a stupid piece of shit though - she seems to be blaming it all on the school.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
"threatening teachers and students with a sharp piece of wood he held like a knife"

=
Pepperspray.

Chill, do as your namesake. Do you feel intimidated somehow? If so, then you need therapy.
He is an alt troll. Somebody needs to clean out the garbage.



Posted by: toothache

They should have tazered the little shit.

Future serial killer



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Yeah, the kid is a piece of shit. But that doesn't mean super trooper has the right to blast a fucking second grade kid with pepper spray. That shithead pepper sprayed the kid for fun, and now that fat cunt of a mother probably deserves money over the issue now.

The kid had a weapon. A knife to be exact. (Yes, you can argue semantics because it was made out of wood but, it was still a knife.) He was threatening to use it. He STILL says he wanted to use it. Little piece of shit is lucky he didn't get shot. Many MANY times use of a firearm (by both police and civilians) to defend against a knife attack has been ruled justified.



Posted by: HialeahChico305

Take his damn video games away you fat bitch, and show him how to behave in the outside world. I would had gave my kid a good spanking if he ever threatened to kill someone.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote Originally Posted by toothache View Post
They should have tazered the little shit.
I was thinking the same thing. Just image how funny is would be to watch the fat fucker fish around on the end of a taser line.



Posted by: toothache

Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
I was thinking the same thing. Just image how funny is would be to watch the fat fucker fish around on the end of a taser line.
hahaha....flounder



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
The kid is a worthless piece of garbage for sure, but a cop has no fucking right to pepper spray a second grade kid. Pepper spray is a defensive weapon, not a tool teach unruly perpetrators a lesson. Same goes for tazors. you don't pepper spray or taze civilians just because they are shit bags.
I agree, but then again most cops are pretty damn dumb and ignorant, at least the ones I have dealt with.



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
The kid had a weapon. A knife to be exact. (Yes, you can argue semantics because it was made out of wood but, it was still a knife.) He was threatening to use it. He STILL says he wanted to use it. Little piece of shit is lucky he didn't get shot. Many MANY times use of a firearm (by both police and civilians) to defend against a knife attack has been ruled justified.
Are you serious? An 8 year old with a wooden knife, wow that sounds pretty threatening to me. lol



Posted by: Chill

Quote Originally Posted by HialeahChico305 View Post
Take his damn video games away you fat bitch, and show him how to behave in the outside world.
And people would start blaming violent video games as the catalyst for his actions.

Which is totally asinine. Its about the individuals ability to know right from wrong, real from fake.

The parents are certainly not adequate teachers in that regard either.
They deserve the most harsh of punishments.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
Are you serious? An 8 year old with a wooden knife, wow that sounds pretty threatening to me. lol
Fine; you're the cop. What would you have done with a hysterical child holding a knife threatening to kill people?



Posted by: Chill

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
Fine; you're the cop. What would you have done with a hysterical child holding a knife threatening to kill people?
Really? A fully grown man against an 8 year old.

If you can't figure the logic in that, then something is wrong.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
Are you serious? An 8 year old with a wooden knife, wow that sounds pretty threatening to me. lol
Had he put his hands on the kid he would have been sued. I don't see what all the fuss is about, the kid was being an asshole and got pepper sprayed. That punishment meets the crime, IMO.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
The kid had a weapon. A knife to be exact. (Yes, you can argue semantics because it was made out of wood but, it was still a knife.) He was threatening to use it. He STILL says he wanted to use it. Little piece of shit is lucky he didn't get shot. Many MANY times use of a firearm (by both police and civilians) to defend against a knife attack has been ruled justified.
THE KID IS A SECOND GRADER! He is three fucking feet tall! How god damn dangerous can a three feet tall 6 year-old with a wooden stick be? You people are fucking nuts.

Police exist in the executive branch, not the judicial branch. It is the job of cops to protect and serve, not teach little spoiled brat kids a lesson. The mentality of a cop that would do this is dangerous. The cop should be fired for having the common sense of a peanut.



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
Had he put his hands on the kid he would have been sued. I don't see what all the fuss is about, the kid was being an asshole and got pepper sprayed. That punishment meets the crime, IMO.
he will get sued either way, its excessive force.

you don't think a grown adult man can take away a wooden knife from an 8 year old kid and restrain him without hurting him?



Posted by: phosphor

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
He is an alt troll. Somebody needs to clean out the garbage.
Fits your other views - anyone not agreeing with you needs to be booted. typical. Unfortunately for you, the Admins here have open minds.

Do I concede that the pepper-spray went too far? Sure, I suppose so. This all comes down to bad parenting and a shit-bird kid. The cops came into a situation and made a judgment call on an asshole kid - too many asshole kids grow up to be bigger assholes because they weren't put in their place when it should have occurred. Then the mom just exacerbates the situation and the kids behavior further for more trouble down the road. If there was a rule that if a kid acted like a punk like that and got peppered, I bet the little punk wouldn't be too willing to take it there too many times. Middle eastern man caught stealing = hand cut off. Result? Allot less stealing. This is extreme, but you see my point. Yes, i know it's not the policemans job to parent - but for crissakes, when will the parenting start? We'll be paying for him in lockup in no time.

Cause and effect works both ways.



Posted by: Prince

wow, I can't believe you guys are defending what this cop did, amazing.

Yes, the kid obviously has some serious issues, but he is 8 years old! If the cop that pepper sprayed him was incapable of taking away a wooden knife and restraining a kid that is a fraction of his size he should not be a cop!



Posted by: Kathybird

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
Do I concede that the pepper-spray went too far? Sure, I suppose so. This all comes down to bad parenting and a shit-bird kid. The cops came into a situation and made a judgment call on an asshole kid - too many asshole kids grow up to be bigger assholes because they weren't put in their place when it should have occurred. Then the mom just exacerbates the situation and the kids behavior further for more trouble down the road. If there was a rule that if a kid acted like a punk like that and got peppered, I bet the little punk wouldn't be too willing to take it there too many times. Middle eastern man caught stealing = hand cut off. Result? Allot less stealing. This is extreme, but you see my point. Yes, i know it's not the policemans job to parent - but for crissakes, when will the parenting start? We'll be paying for him in lockup in no time.

Cause and effect works both ways.
Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
Had he put his hands on the kid he would have been sued.
Quote Originally Posted by Chill View Post
The parents are certainly not adequate teachers in that regard either.
I agree with all the above. It's not the police's job to parent. They made a split second judgment call. I do wonder about specifics - if the kid was "barricaded" in a bunch of desks, how immediate was the danger?

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
If the cop that pepper sprayed him was incapable of taking away a wooden knife and restraining a kid that is a fraction of his size he should not be a cop!
Prince, that's a big 8 year old. Most of the guys on this forum seem to be "big" (y'all's joking about "big" aside), but if you've got a couple of average joe cops with a raving kid, it's a different story. Ever seen someone completely lose it? I don't mean just mad or hysterical, I mean someone with "problems" have an attack of some sort. It's scary.



Posted by: vortrit

We should pepper spray Prince and put it on video to see if it really hurts that bad.



Posted by: Vick

Makes me proud to be an American. Future authors will be redefining human traffickers.



Posted by: phosphor

I see your points Prince, but I don't have a vendetta against cops either. They are thrown into a situation where they have to make a judgement call. A reprimand at most, but you know as well as I do that they will be dealing with this little prick long into the future - and we will be paying for it because everyone around him enables the behavior.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
Fits your other views - anyone not agreeing with you needs to be booted. typical. Unfortunately for you, the Admins here have open minds.
Are you really that retarded? Chill is a fake account made by one of our newer members that clogs up threads with stupid shit. I haven't agreed with you on one damn thing since you posted here, and I don't think you should be banned. As far as the saudi fag, we have more than enough scripture quoting Islamic Fundamentalist using open chat as a gateway for their propaganda, and I consider it spam.



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
I see your points Prince, but I don't have a vendetta against cops either.
Neither do I, just think many are corrupt, many are just plain stupid, many are uneducated, and many are cops only because they have an issue with power, and many make terrible judgment calls all the time, I hear about when I watch the news.



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by vortrit View Post
We should pepper spray Prince and put it on video to see if it really hurts that bad.
great post.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
I see your points Prince, but I don't have a vendetta against cops either. They are thrown into a situation where they have to make a judgement call. A reprimand at most, but you know as well as I do that they will be dealing with this little prick long into the future - and we will be paying for it because everyone around him enables the behavior.
I think juvi work farms would be a good idea.



Posted by: ALBOB

8 years old = irrelevent
knife made of wood = irrelevent

What matters is that a stark raving hysterical person had a weapon and was threatening to kill others. If you've never been confronted with that situation you have absolutely NO business condemning the cop for his actions.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote Originally Posted by Vick View Post
Makes me proud to be an American. Future authors will be redefining human traffickers.
You're right, we need to kill more prisoners like China does. Then we'll place lower on that scale.



Posted by: phosphor

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Are you really that retarded? Chill is a fake account made by one of our newer members that clogs up threads with stupid shit. I haven't agreed with you on one damn thing since you posted here, and I don't think you should be banned. As far as the saudi fag, we have more than enough scripture quoting Islamic Fundamentalist using open chat as a gateway for their propaganda.
Oh dude, my bad. I thought we were having another e-penis fight. I thought you were directing your dark-side of the force onto me. I didn't know that alts discovered were supposed to remain on the boards. Again, my bad.





Posted by: jagbender

Quote Originally Posted by HialeahChico305 View Post
Take his damn video games away you fat bitch, and show him how to behave in the outside world. I would had gave my kid a good spanking if he ever threatened to kill someone.

No doubt!!!!! The little troll has no idea of reality!
he needed to get his little ass beat and his Dumb ass mom too!

TOO MUCH VIDEO GAME AND NOT ENOUGH REALITY!

MOM'S BABYSITTER GRAND THEFT AUTO



Posted by: Chill

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
8 years old = irrelevent
knife made of wood = irrelevent

What matters is that a stark raving hysterical person had a weapon and was threatening to kill others. If you've never been confronted with that situation you have absolutely NO business condemning the cop for his actions.
If the kid had a pistol it would be different.

But overracting about a knife or wood (close range weapons) is totally ridiculous.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
Oh dude, my bad. I thought we were having another e-penis fight. I thought you were directing your dark-side of the force onto me. I didn't know that alts discovered were supposed to remain on the boards. Again, my bad.
Don't get all butt hurt. You said that I thought anyone I didn't agree with should by banned, and I explained how you are wrong.





Posted by: SFW

to the assholes who think you cant stab someone with a wooden stake...wtf were our ancestors killing animals with before forging metal into weapons? Yes, i know...There wasnt a spearhead on the thing but still. He learned a valuable lesson im sure. Drop a weapon when a cop tells you to.

Fuck this lil kid. He should be removed from the custody of his mother and she should be forced to attend parenting classes. Give these pigs a medal....lil fucking shit stain wields a stake at me, id mace his ass too.



Posted by: Chill

Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
lil fucking shit stain wields a stake at me, id mace his ass too.
So apparently you're not agile enough to dodge his attacks.

Or man enough to muscle him down to the ground.



Posted by: SFW

How do you know the dimensions of the room? Or whether or not the cop had enough space to perform acrobatics? gimme a fucking break. So cops have to be trained in martial arts now? The little prick got what he deserved.

You liberal pussies kill me. This kid needs a beaten



Posted by: Vick

Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
You're right, we need to kill more prisoners like China does. Then we'll place lower on that scale.
Live free or die was the motto of my ancestors and still on NH license plates. I'm more for natural selection, improves a species. Preservation of life perpetuates disease. We should be drafting prisoners rather than sending over our intelligent youth to get raped by superior officers while experienced personnel are over here stalking commuters and pepper spraying kids.

Covered up: More than 1/3 of American woman soldiers raped « Stool & Dunce Cap



Posted by: Chill

Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
How do you know the dimensions of the room? Or whether or not the cop had enough space to perform acrobatics? gimme a fucking break. So cops have to be trained in martial arts now? The little prick got what he deserved.

You liberal pussies kill me. This kid needs a beaten
No you gimme me a fucking break, and a rational post to boot.

If cops are trained properly to have good reaction time, they can get the job done no matter what.

I've seen grown fat men being taken down in small quarters by skilled and alert officers.



Posted by: maniclion

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
THE KID IS A SECOND GRADER! He is three fucking feet tall! How god damn dangerous can a three feet tall 6 year-old with a wooden stick be? You people are fucking nuts.

Police exist in the executive branch, not the judicial branch. It is the job of cops to protect and serve, not teach little spoiled brat kids a lesson. The mentality of a cop that would do this is dangerous. The cop should be fired for having the common sense of a peanut.
My ex-step-mother worked at a school for special needs kids, some with behavioral problems....some of those kids were dirty little heathens who would shove a pencil up their own ass and try to stab you, or they'd play in their own shit and then if you got scratched you're fucked.... The cop had no way of knowing whether this little butt-nugget had done any of this nor did he know if he might be dealing with "retard-strength"...Yeah it's real my step-mom said it took six teachers to hold a downs-syndrome kid down when he started punching himself in the face and then dropped to the ground and started smashing his head on the floor....



Posted by: phosphor

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Don't get all butt hurt. You said that I thought anyone I didn't agree with should by banned, and I explained how you are wrong.
Well, now I am butthurt. I was apologizing - and it's not easy to admit being wrong to someone so diametrically opposed to me from flavors of ice cream to social issues. I offer a flowery peace offering to you for today only.





Posted by: vortrit

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Don't get all butt hurt.
No, no. You're doing it wrong!





Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
Well, now I am butthurt. I was apologizing - and it's not easy to admit being wrong to someone so diametrically opposed to me from flavors of ice cream to social issues. I offer a flowery peace offering to you for today only.

My apologies for being an over bearing rude and obnoxious jerk. If you post here very long you will realize that am not really as hateful as I sound, but my thought processes work a lot like Lewis Black throwing a tantrum.



Posted by: DOMS



Quote Originally Posted by vortrit View Post




Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by Chill View Post
If the kid had a pistol it would be different.

But overracting about a knife or wood (close range weapons) is totally ridiculous.
No, it would absolutely NOT be different. Like I said before; many MANY times firearms have been determined to be an appropriate response to a person weilding a knife. If you're even remotely serious about this subject you should do some research.



Posted by: Chill

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
No, it would absolutely NOT be different. Like I said before; many MANY times firearms have been determined to be an appropriate response to a person weilding a knife. If you're even remotely serious about this subject you should do some research.
One thing that is serious, is your ability to rationalize is very alarming.

Putting bullets in an 8 year old with some wood is quite appropriate.

Not excessive at all. And kids who run with pencils and scissors should get the same.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by Chill View Post
No you gimme me a fucking break, and a rational post to boot.

If cops are trained properly to have good reaction time, they can get the job done no matter what.

I've seen grown fat men being taken down in small quarters by skilled and alert officers.

Here's a clue to put in your obviously empty bag, you can't train reflexive actions.

I've seen grown MUSCULAR men being taken down by petite women.



Posted by: Prince

we will see what the judge says when the parents sue the city and the cop for excessive force on an 8 year child.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
we will see what the judge says when the parents sue the city and the cop for excessive force on an 8 year child.
Yep, see this here pretty much neutralizes the bullshit on contact, and brings the issue into a realm of reality. All of the shit talking, armchair parenting, and hypothetical situations mean nothing. In the land of the law, cops don't get to pepper spray 6 year old children. That stupid fat bitch will probably get a huge settlement, and that worthless kid will probably get a trust fund setup for his spoiled ass, so he can have a cool car when he turns 16.

All of this because of some cowboy shit for brains didn't have the common sense or decency to subdue a small child rather than fill his face with chemical mace.



Posted by: Chill

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
Here's a clue to put in your obviously empty bag, you can't train reflexive actions.
Officers are trained to be alert and expect the unexpected.

Usually results in one developing sharp reflexive actions.


Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
I've seen grown MUSCULAR men being taken down by petite women.
And its always good for a laugh.



Posted by: phosphor

The law is on your side, Prince. I do not doubt for one second that his mother will reap the rewards of enabling her son all these years. American justice!





Posted by: maniclion

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Yep, see this here pretty much neutralizes the bullshit on contact, and brings the issue into a realm of reality. All of the shit talking, armchair parenting, and hypothetical situations mean nothing. In the land of the law, cops don't get to pepper spray 6 year old children. That stupid fat bitch will probably get a huge settlement, and that worthless kid will probably get a trust fund setup for his spoiled ass, so he can have a cool car when he turns 16.

All of this because of some cowboy shit for brains didn't have the common sense or decency to subdue a small child rather than fill his face with chemical mace.
Read my post above, how does the cop know the brat didn't rub feces, saliva or some other infectious substance on the sharp piece of wood? I wouldn't chance getting a staph infection or anything else just because it's a small child, the kid was going wild and anyone who has worked with or heard stories from people who worked with troubled children will know they can be more than a handful and even a danger to themselves.....

What if the cop had approached the kid and the kid had fallen on his little shiv then the cop would have been in trouble for not disabling the kid with mace or tazer, what if he had tried talking and the kid got more upset and jabbed his stick into his own jugular....it's a no-win situation that is sad but was the only way to quickly neutralize the threat of potential disastrous consequences....



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
All of this because of some cowboy shit for brains didn't have the common sense or decency to subdue a small child rather than fill his face with chemical mace.
If I read the article correctly, the officer DID subdue the little shit. He just didn't use the method you'd have used.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
Read my post above, how does the cop know the brat didn't rub feces, saliva or some other infectious substance on the sharp piece of wood? I wouldn't chance getting a staph infection or anything else just because it's a small child, the kid was going wild and anyone who has worked with or heard stories from people who worked with troubled children will know they can be more than a handful and even a danger to themselves.....

What if the cop had approached the kid and the kid had fallen on his little shiv then the cop would have been in trouble for not disabling the kid with mace or tazer, what if he had tried talking and the kid got more upset and jabbed his stick into his own jugular....it's a no-win situation that is sad but was the only way to quickly neutralize the threat of potential disastrous consequences....
I read your post manic. I didn't know what to say, because it sounded so silly. They are kids, they are all gross little booger eating snot factories. Kids have germs, but educators manage to work for most of their lives in those conditions without dying from diseases caught from feces.

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
If I read the article correctly, the officer DID subdue the little shit. He just didn't use the method you'd have used.
I don't punch, tazor, or mace women and kids, and trust me, I have wanted to. But I don't have to, because I was blessed with arms, and they even have hands attached at the ends with these special fingers called opposable thumbs. You wouldn't believe the shit I can do with these things. I can grab stuff, namely little bratty kids, and squeeze the fuck out of them until their settle the fuck down.

If a grown man can't take a sharp stick away from a second grader without mace, I fear for the current state of law enforcement.



Posted by: withoutrulers

this^^, oh and fuck the police



Posted by: maniclion

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
I read your post manic. I didn't know what to say, because it sounded so silly. They are kids, they are all gross little booger eating snot factories. Kids have germs, but educators manage to work for most of their lives in those conditions without dying from diseases caught from feces.
Those are normal children....
"Aidan is in a class for kids with behavior problems." He was already spitting, in this day with HIV, hepatitis, staph infections, etc we have to worry about body fluids, and someone waving a sharp object around no mater what age is dangerous, even in prisons the guards have to be careful of shit under fingernails and in old folks homes nurses too have to be careful cause senile patients play with their shit. Plus this kid was threatening harm to others and possibly himself while brandishing a weapon, thats grounds for concern for his and others safety above all else



Posted by: SFW

Guess what folks? Tackling a child to the ground is way more dangerous than macing him. I've seen kids restrained in detention centers by grown men and it never ended well. One kid broke his jaw as the officer tackled him. Trust me, a 200 lb man forcibly tackling a 70 lb kid is going to do harm. Then the mom would have one helluva law Suit. She has nothing now. The cop did the right thing....he used a non lethal means to subdue an emotionally unstable turd child.



Posted by: withoutrulers

In his defense, turd children are always unstable. The police should have known this about the fecal minority.



Posted by: SFW

Turd children turn into adults. You ever see booty Johnson in action? He would ferment his shit and piss for days then grind up broken light bulb shards inside the fecal concoction. Thrown on an officer, the immediate reaction of the officer is to wipe away the filth. Upon doing so, the shards of glass would rip the skin and allow the shit stew to enter the blood stream.

What is my point? Not sure.



Posted by: ALBOB

Since we're all being so logical and shit, talking about police training and tactics. (For KelJu, that means how to properly use arms, hands and opposable thumbs. ) Would anyone care to dazzle us with their vast knowledge of police training on the proper escallation of force and where hand-to-hand fits in?

I case anyone didn't already know, we do have one resident expert here who can verify your replies.....................or perhaps tell you you're a dumbass.



Posted by: maniclion

As much as I'd love to see laughing gas replace tear gas and mace or hear that the CIA is using tickle torture, I still say neutralizing the child with a little sting to the eyes is better than rough housing with him and risking bodily harm to him or the cop.....

We need better tools for dealing with out of control people, but right now thats what the cop had in his arsenal and we're lucky he didn't pull his gun and plug the kid in the shoulder or drive his cruiser through the schoolroom window Det. Riggs style in Lethal Weapon....



Posted by: withoutrulers

Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
Turd children turn into adults. You ever see booty Johnson in action? He would ferment his shit and piss for days then grind up broken light bulb shards inside the fecal concoction. Thrown on an officer, the immediate reaction of the officer is to wipe away the filth. Upon doing so, the shards of glass would rip the skin and allow the shit stew to enter the blood stream.

What is my point? Not sure.
We have already shared many laughs together over booty johnson, remember the discussion over long range delivery of said payload?



Posted by: Little Wing

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Are you really that retarded? Chill is a fake account made by one of our newer members that clogs up threads with stupid shit. I haven't agreed with you on one damn thing since you posted here, and I don't think you should be banned. As far as the saudi fag, we have more than enough scripture quoting Islamic Fundamentalist using open chat as a gateway for their propaganda, and I consider it spam.
Actually Chill was banned as 999 and came back as Chill. He tries so hard to be negative in every post he doesn't even make sense sometimes. You can recognize the white tampon string hanging out of his ass on every piss and moan post he makes.

And any cop that has to mace an 8 year old cuz he's holding a pointy stick needs to be fired.



Posted by: SFW

the possibilities are endless for delivery methods. The elastic from a pair of trophy bvd's that he acquired during one of his rapes would work nicely as a sling shot.



Posted by: Vick

Let's take a step back and look at how this situation arises. First it's the law we have to send our children to schools with strangers and the children of strangers we know nothing about. If Obama wants to shut down something it should be these public schools and give families tax returns to send their kids to private schools instead of privatizing prisons they're obviously being prepared for before the nursing homes. (Images of the Matrix come to mind.)

At the end of the day when you pay for something yourself you value it more. While Obamas at it shut down the welfare system so these parasites stop breeding. Hey if someones friends and family won't help a mother take care of a baby why should taxpayers. Hell if she can't afford it charge her with endangering the welfare of a child, draft her, and put the kid in a state custody until a qualified family member stands up for them.



Posted by: Little Wing

it's odd this kid only acts violent at school. something not right about that.



Posted by: ZECH

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
No, it would absolutely NOT be different. Like I said before; many MANY times firearms have been determined to be an appropriate response to a person weilding a knife. If you're even remotely serious about this subject you should do some research.
It's proven that a person with a knife within 22 feet can close the distance and stab you before you even get a chance to shoot. A knife is the MOST dangerous weapon a cop can face!



Posted by: LAM

Quote Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts View Post
Aidan Elliot, Eight, Pepper Sprayed in Colorado Elementary Classroom By Police - ABC News

I don't know about you, but I sure feel better this little felon is off the streets.
were I grew up when we were bored we called the cops, reported a disturbance in the neighborhood then bombed them with snowballs when they showed up...



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
It's proven that a person with a knife within 22 feet can close the distance and stab you before you even get a chance to shoot. A knife is the MOST dangerous weapon a cop can face!
yes, its very dangerous when an 8 year old second grader has a wooden knife, he could easily throw it at the cop.



Posted by: Little Wing

what about a chubby 8 yr old with a stick?



Posted by: maniclion

Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
it's odd this kid only acts violent at school. something not right about that.
It sounds to me that he gets his way at home, but when forced to not get his way at school,(as he himself stated was his problem) he gets angry which he himself said he needs to work on....



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
what about a chubby 8 yr old with a stick?
he would need to be tazed til unconsciousness.



Posted by: ZECH

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
yes, its very dangerous when an 8 year old second grader has a wooden knife, he could easily throw it at the cop.
All I'm stating is a fact. None of us know all the details of what happened. But police are trained to minimize harm to themselves and suspects. It's up to others to determine if anything was criminally wrong. Even though some may see it as excessive force, can you think of a situation where the potential harm to both would have been better? The effect of pepper spray wears off in 10 minutes or so. The effects of tasers end immediately and probably would have been more appropriate......just hurts like shit while it is being deployed.



Posted by: Prince

He is 8 years old, its not as though he had a real knife or a gun.



Posted by: ZECH

I understand that. But it did pose a unknown risk to the officer. Just asking, would you rather him manhandle or tackle and disarm the child and potentially risk hurting him? The cop was trying to take the option of least amount of physical contact. Agree or not, that is how most are trained. So IMO, he was doing what he was trained to do. If that is wrong, then training needs to change.



Posted by: withoutrulers

Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
the possibilities are endless for delivery methods. The elastic from a pair of trophy bvd's that he acquired during one of his rapes would work nicely as a sling shot.
That's good thinking. Now rap one of his rape victims ripped out colon around the basketball hoop post till it hardens in the sun. Now you have a prison bazooka



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
I understand that. But it did pose a unknown risk to the officer. Just asking, would you rather him manhandle or tackle and disarm the child and potentially risk hurting him? The cop was trying to take the option of least amount of physical contact. Agree or not, that is how most are trained. So IMO, he was doing what he was trained to do. If that is wrong, then training needs to change.
Yes, that makes perfect sense and we were not there to know exactly what transpired.

It just sounds silly that a male cop cannot handle an 8 year old without pepper spray. I am just thinking of my little relatives and their size, and it would be so easy for me to restrain and cuff them. And I assume there were two officers on the scene (there usually are, right?), which would have made it even easier.

Either way I think the parents will sue and most likely win, just my opinion.



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by phosphor View Post
The law is on your side, Prince. I do not doubt for one second that his mother will reap the rewards of enabling her son all these years. American justice!

Unfortunately this is not used often, or soon enough, instead these killers sit on death row for 10+ years wasting our tax dollars.



Posted by: Little Wing

the mom was on the way there. the area should have been cleared leaving just the child and one officer and the cop may have been able to diffuse the situation just by making the child feel heard. it goes a long way with a kid just to say "i understand how you're feeling" or "i would be upset if that happened to me too."

we do not know the whole story. maybe a teacher was touching him, maybe bullying was being allowed to go on unchecked. there's another video right near that one of a teacher beating the crap out of a kid.



Posted by: maniclion

Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
the mom was on the way there. the area should have been cleared leaving just the child and one officer and the cop may have been able to diffuse the situation just by making the child feel heard. it goes a long way with a kid just to say "i understand how you're feeling" or "i would be upset if that happened to me too."

we do not know the whole story. maybe a teacher was touching him, maybe bullying was being allowed to go on unchecked. there's another video right near that one of a teacher beating the crap out of a kid.
"I was rowdy on the bus...They didn't let me do something I wanted to do...."

When he got to school they put him in timeout(in a corner)...

Seems to me he isn't used to being disciplined...



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
Unfortunately this is not used often, or soon enough, instead these killers sit on death row for 10+ years wasting our tax dollars.
**DING**

**DING**

**DING**

Something Prince and I wholeheartedly agree on.



Posted by: maniclion

Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
I understand that. But it did pose a unknown risk to the officer. Just asking, would you rather him manhandle or tackle and disarm the child and potentially risk hurting him? The cop was trying to take the option of least amount of physical contact. Agree or not, that is how most are trained. So IMO, he was doing what he was trained to do. If that is wrong, then training needs to change.
We need to arm officers with Inspector Gadget arms/hands so they can stand back and tickle these unruly kids until they say uncle and give up....



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
the mom was on the way there. the area should have been cleared leaving just the child and one officer and the cop may have been able to diffuse the situation just by making the child feel heard. it goes a long way with a kid just to say "i understand how you're feeling" or "i would be upset if that happened to me too."

we do not know the whole story. maybe a teacher was touching him, maybe bullying was being allowed to go on unchecked. there's another video right near that one of a teacher beating the crap out of a kid.
How do you know that's not what DID happen? The article specifically says the teachers barricaded themselves in another room.



Posted by: BillHicksFan

Cops masing a child. Nuff said.



Posted by: Little Wing

Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
How do you know that's not what DID happen? The article specifically says the teachers barricaded themselves in another room.
it's just hard to take being scared of an 8 year old seriously. he had a piece of wood. my daughter is almost 20 and i have worked with kids since before she was born. you CAN pick up a kicking, screaming kid that age who is even trying to bite you and restrain them without hurting the kid. or grab a kid and take away an item he's trying to bash another kid's brains out with. i'm pretty sure if a woman can do it a cop can. would be kinda interesting to have seen that kid in action. he must've had some serious linda blair shit going on.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
We need to arm officers with Inspector Gadget arms/hands so they can stand back and tickle these unruly kids until they say uncle and give up....
How about the cyborg teachers from class of 1999.

YouTube Video




Posted by: lnvanry

cops made the right decision...what happens if they grab him and starts to stab one of them? They will take him down, and it hurt the child, possibly seriously injuring him. Pepper spray subdues people and it doesn't injury anyone. A bit extreme, yes....but it sounds like an extreme circumstance.

kinda sad though how the kid associate his happiness with money
(bad poor road, or happy rich road)



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
cops made the right decision...what happens if they grab him and starts to stab one of them?
absolutely those wooden knives are really sharp.



Posted by: Little Wing

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Posted by: HialeahChico305

Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
Home Remedies for Splinters

Anything made out of wood has the potential to leave a small sliver of material behind in the skin – best known as a splinter. Despite their size, splinters have the potential to cause great discomfort and even infection when overlooked. To remove these seemingly harmless scraps of wood, consider home remedies for splinters to free your skin of unwanted foreign objects.


you are cold woman



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote Originally Posted by withoutrulers View Post
In his defense, turd children are always unstable. The police should have known this about the fecal minority.




Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
it's odd this kid only acts violent at school. something not right about that.
This is what interested me most.

I was a TOTAL Shithead in school, my whole life.
But i was an ABSOLUTE angel everywhere else. At home, with family, with friends, with babysitters, etc.

IT's competition. Kids are immoral beings. School is like the jungle for those kids.

When I was in 5th grade, I attended a shithole school for a few months and got ganged up on in the bathroom by 2-3 kids on almost a daily basis. That's incentive to act crazy.



Posted by: NeilPearson

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
Are you serious? An 8 year old with a wooden knife, wow that sounds pretty threatening to me. lol
I'm pretty sure I could have disarmed him without pepperspray or a tazer



Posted by: NeilPearson

Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
to the assholes who think you cant stab someone with a wooden stake...wtf were our ancestors killing animals with before forging metal into weapons? Yes, i know...There wasnt a spearhead on the thing but still. He learned a valuable lesson im sure. Drop a weapon when a cop tells you to.

Fuck this lil kid. He should be removed from the custody of his mother and she should be forced to attend parenting classes. Give these pigs a medal....lil fucking shit stain wields a stake at me, id mace his ass too.
Killing animals with a wooden stake requires learning some real hunting techniques and having a properly crafted weapon. Not something this kid could have pulled off



Posted by: toothache

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
absolutely those wooden knives are really sharp.
Whether it was wood or steel, it's still a knife that can penetrate and kill. Have you not ever heard what prisoners make knives out of? toothbrushes, plastic ware, tape.....

8 yr old can still kill someone.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote Originally Posted by toothache View Post
Whether it was wood or steel, it's still a knife that can penetrate and kill. Have you not ever heard what prisoners make knives out of? toothbrushes, plastic ware, tape.....

8 yr old can still kill someone.


All I read from that is : "Anything can happen".

yea well no shit



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by toothache View Post
Whether it was wood or steel, it's still a knife that can penetrate and kill. Have you not ever heard what prisoners make knives out of? toothbrushes, plastic ware, tape.....

8 yr old can still kill someone.

You are comparing a hardened adult criminal to a child. A second grader does not have the physical strength to kill an adult with a makeshift shank, and if he did, that person deserved to die for being the weakest human on the planet.


You people overstating how dangerous this little boy is are virginas of epic proportions.



Posted by: maniclion

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
absolutely those wooden knives are really sharp.
In a persons eye, or with the pressure of a falling adult and fat 8 year old yeah it could be...



Posted by: maniclion

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
You people overstating how dangerous this little boy is are virginas of epic proportions.
It doesn't matter how dangerous he was, the cops had been called to handle him 3 times prior, they obviously knew what he might be capable of.....what if they had decided to go in and man handle him, he falls and gets hurt that's worse than a little pepper and water in the eyes...you're the virgina of epic proportions for thinking this poor kid is scarred for life cause he got a little sting in his eyes....



Posted by: DOMS

Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
You people overstating how dangerous this little boy is are virginas of epic proportions.
Sorry man, but I have the cold hard facts right here.

It's the number two cause, motherfucker.





Posted by: DOMS

Also, I didn't need to know that an 8 year old boy had wood.



Posted by: Curt James

Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
He learned a valuable lesson im sure. Drop a weapon when a cop tells you to.
Unfortunately, I doubt that the child has learned any lesson. Unless it's that his mom will support him no matter what.

And if she does file a successful complaint and get some type of apology or a financial settlement then it's really on.

We've been directed to remove all the other students from the classroom if any child has a meltdown or otherwise becomes uncontrollably enraged.

When I was a kid they'd paddle us.

Today?


"Now, Timmy, please don't punch your classmate in the face again. That's a poor choice, Timmy. Time-out for you, Timmy. I'm going to have to make a phone call home!"



Posted by: jagbender

Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Sorry man, but I have the cold hard facts right here.

It's the number two cause, motherfucker.


Thanks DOMS Now I have to clean the tea off my computer screen



Posted by: jagbender

Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
Unfortunately, I doubt that the child has learned any lesson. Unless it's that his mom will support him no matter what.

And if she does file a successful complaint and get some type of apology or a financial settlement then it's really on.

We've been directed to remove all the other students from the classroom if any child has a meltdown or otherwise becomes uncontrollably enraged.

When I was a kid they'd paddle us.

Today?

"Now, Timmy, please don't punch your classmate in the face again. That's a poor choice, Timmy. Time-out for you, Timmy. I'm going to have to make a phone call home!"
the kid needs to go out in the woods and cut his own switch and get his ass beat

Those who don't know what a switch is look it up LOL

Old school dicipline!

No fugging time outs in my house



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Sorry man, but I have the cold hard facts right here.

It's the number two cause, motherfucker.





Posted by: Curt James

Quote Originally Posted by jagbender View Post
the kid needs to go out in the woods and cut his own switch and get his ass beat

Those who don't know what a switch is look it up LOL

Old school dicipline!

No fugging time outs in my house
I'm sorry but that would resemble a weapon too closely. And then officers would be justified in shooting the individual wielding the switch!





Posted by: jagbender

Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
I'm sorry but that would resemble a weapon too closely. And then officers would be justified in shooting the individual wielding the switch!

No his "mother" needs to whip his ass not the cops

She is a puss and cannot parent!



Posted by: Prince

Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
hmmm...I would expect anabolic steroids to be on this list, they are very dangerous.



Posted by: jagbender

These kids today do NOT have any respect at all. No clue of reality. They think they can go around telling teachers and cops the "I'lll kill you mother fucker" and not get into trouble. His mom, probably single, needs to grow some nads and teach the kid some respect and reality. I would shove that video game where the sun doesn't shine and drag that lid out behind the wood shed. and Beat some sense into his breattl little ass.
The little Phuck is lucky that pepper spray and handcuffs is all he got!



Posted by: SFW

Quote Originally Posted by NeilPearson View Post
Killing animals with a wooden stake requires learning some real hunting techniques and having a properly crafted weapon. Not something this kid could have pulled off
. why should the cop risk injuring himself over this little monster? Even a minor wound, why risk it? I love how everyone here is chuck Norris. "yeah I would of side stepped it and summersaulted this kid harmlessly into a pile of pillows"

Right

Half of you would of ran out of the room screaming. The other half would of sprayed away.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
hmmm...I would expect anabolic steroids to be on this list, they are very dangerous.
What do you think makes the eight year olds so deadly?



Posted by: Little Wing

Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Sorry man, but I have the cold hard facts right here.

It's the number two cause, motherfucker.





Posted by: Curt James

Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
. why should the cop risk injuring himself over this little monster? Even a minor wound, why risk it? I love how everyone here is chuck Norris. "yeah I would of side stepped it and summersaulted this kid harmlessly into a pile of pillows"

Right

Half of you would of ran out of the room screaming. The other half would of sprayed away.
I wonder if ice cream would have settled junior down? Of course that's just asking for more meltdowns.

The officer was definitely the one to take whatever action might have been called for, though. Any teacher touching the child could have found themselves being interviewed by a detective for their troubles.



Posted by: SFW

Youre a teacher right?

How do you handle unrully kids?

Thats actually a good idea with the ice cream...But then again, ice cream would just reinforce his bad behavior. Heres a cone for acting like a freak, junior.

Maybe an ice cream cone laced with thorazine would of worked.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Using rewards for kids to make good grades is a BAD IDEA.

I went to a school that did that, for about 3-4 months...Long story short, the smart kids will get picked on EVEN more because they'll be receiving treats while the dummies get nothing.



Posted by: maniclion

Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
Youre a teacher right?

How do you handle unrully kids?

Thats actually a good idea with the ice cream...But then again, ice cream would just reinforce his bad behavior. Heres a cone for acting like a freak, junior.

Maybe an ice cream cone laced with thorazine would of worked.
One year in 5th grade my guidance counselor(aka my assigned mind spy) bought me one of those huge cookies and I got to invite 5 friends to eat pizza and the cookie with me at lunch...all because I was a quiet kid who they thought might be suicidal or something I don't know, but it was funny to me...I was being rewarded for being sullen and mysterious....



Posted by: Curt James

Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
Youre a teacher right?

How do you handle unrully kids?


Thats actually a good idea with the ice cream...But then again, ice cream would just reinforce his bad behavior. Heres a cone for acting like a freak, junior.

Maybe an ice cream cone laced with thorazine would of worked.
Concrete consequences.






Yup. Giving out ice cream might have settled him down but all the other students would have gotten the message that meltdown = treats and goodies.

Quote Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts View Post
Using rewards for kids to make good grades is a BAD IDEA.

I went to a school that did that, for about 3-4 months...Long story short, the smart kids will get picked on EVEN more because they'll be receiving treats while the dummies get nothing.
There's a book "Punished by Rewards" that notes that same opinion.

Amazon.com: Punished by Rewards: The Trouble with Gold Stars, Incentive Plans, A's, Praise, and Other Bribes (0046442001816): Alfie Kohn: Books

But I saw a Time magazine cover story which expressed the opposite opinion. No link immediately. I can Google that, though.

Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
One year in 5th grade my guidance counselor(aka my assigned mind spy) bought me one of those huge cookies and I got to invite 5 friends to eat pizza and the cookie with me at lunch...all because I was a quiet kid who they thought might be suicidal or something I don't know, but it was funny to me...I was being rewarded for being sullen and mysterious....
lol Maybe the guidance counselor simply wanted to reward you for being a reasonable child and a pleasure to be around. Sullen and mysterious trumps enraged and hyperactive any day?

Here's the question, who did you select to enjoy pizza and cookies with you, good sir?



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