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Famous Sex Quotes!!!

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Posted by: bubbasr

Tom Clancy:
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy."
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Steve Martin:
"You know "that look" women get when they want sex? Me neither."
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Drew Carey:
"Sex without love is a meaningless experience, but as meaningless experiences go, it's pretty damned good!"
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Woody Allen:
"Having sex is like playing bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand."
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Rodney Dangerfield:
"If it weren't for pickpockets, I'd have no sex life at all."
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Rodney Dangerfield:
"My wife said she'd like to have sex in the back seat of the car... and she wanted me to drive."
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George Burns:
"It isn't premarital sex if you have no intention of getting married."
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George Burns:
"Sex at age 90 is like trying to shoot pool with a rope."
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Lynn Lavner:
"There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women. Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL."
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Harvey Korman:
"Using Viagra is like putting a new flagpole on a condemned building."



Posted by: bigss75

George Burns:
"Sex at age 90 is like trying to shoot pool with a rope."




Posted by: coleman

Rodney Dangerfield:
"If it weren't for pickpockets, I'd have no sex life at all."

poor fella



Posted by: Badger

George Burns:
"It isn't premarital sex if you have no intention of getting married."


I'll have to agree with this one.



Posted by: DFINEST

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bubbasr

Steve Martin:
"You know "that look" women get when they want sex? Me neither."


I thought that I was the ONLY lost one, what a relief that I'm not



Posted by: cornfed

Holy sh!t. Props, my friend. Props.



Posted by: Burner02

those were good!



Posted by: cornfed

Irontime:
__"Dammit, I said I was in, didn't I?!!"
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Kuso:
__"I swear, I have no idea where that hampster came from or how it got in there, honest."
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Albob:
__"So it's a sheep? Big deal"
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Sheep:
__"Baaaaah....He's right, no big deal"
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Crash:
__"Who you callin' needle dick?"
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Irontime:
__"I mean, c/mon, Crashy...I've had bigger"
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Posted by: cornfed





Posted by: Burner02

cornfed fades back, he shoots...he SCORES!!!
nothing butt net!



Posted by: cornfed

Don't laugh too hard bud, You almost made the list



Posted by: Burner02

damn, this must have been a bad week..I didn't even make a list of people being dissed...




Posted by: CRASHMAN

poor you



Posted by: Little Wing

bump too funny sorry



Posted by: Little Wing

Quote Originally Posted by cornfed
Irontime:
__"Dammit, I said I was in, didn't I?!!"
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Kuso:
__"I swear, I have no idea where that hampster came from or how it got in there, honest."
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Albob:
__"So it's a sheep? Big deal"
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Sheep:
__"Baaaaah....He's right, no big deal"
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Crash:
__"Who you callin' needle dick?"
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Irontime:
__"I mean, c/mon, Crashy...I've had bigger"
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Posted by: david





Posted by: Vieope





Posted by: Little Wing

here's one "Luke dump some old pm's there is no room for new ones"



Posted by: min0 lee

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69




Posted by: CRASHMAN

fuckers....







Posted by: Vince2005

LMAO



Posted by: Shae

"What did we do before we got here? We fucked in the car. Thats what we did."

- Billy Bob Thorton



Posted by: Luke9583

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
here's one "Luke dump some old pm's there is no room for new ones"




Posted by: Little Wing

"shut up and kiss me." where have i heard that?



Posted by: Luke9583

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
"shut up and kiss me." where have i heard that?
are you talking again?



Posted by: Luke9583

"Ohh, yea baby, right there. I like it like that"

- anonymous



Posted by: Vieope

Quote Originally Posted by Luke9583
"Ohh, yea baby, right there. I like it like that"

- anonymous
I know who said that.



Posted by: Little Wing

  1. Luke9583 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.
again



Posted by: Flex

"Gimme some sugar, baby"-Duke Nukem



Posted by: Flex

"I'm gonna cum....Awww.... Awwwwwwwww FUCK"-Peter North



Posted by: Luke9583

Quote Originally Posted by Flex
"Gimme some sugar, baby"-Duke Nukem



I think Duke stole it from that dude in Evil Dead



Posted by: Flex

"I'm all in"
-Sam Farha, World Series of Poker



Posted by: Little Wing

Quote Originally Posted by Luke9583
are you talking again?




Posted by: Little Wing

"There's a difference between hard and really hard."



Posted by: Little Wing

who knew



Posted by: J.K.

Here's another. It's not a funny, but one of my favorite quotes so I thought I'd add..

"What sex is, we don't know, but it must be some sort of fire. For it always communicates a sense of warmth, of glow. And when the glow becomes a pure shine, then we feel the sense of beauty."
-- D.H. Lawrence




Posted by: fantasma62

Got two for you:


Quote 1: "Ooops"

Quote 2: "What? You mean to tell me that those things don't work 3% of the time""



Posted by: Little Wing

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
"There's a difference between hard and really hard."
nnnoooooo that wasn't it it was

"there's a difference between hard and super hard"



Posted by: Little Wing

still, who knew



Posted by: DFINEST

Her moaning: Morris,what's my name?
Morris: It's baby ain't it?

From Morris Day and The Time
singing "If the kid can't make you come"



Posted by: Little Wing

Shae... "I can't wait for that."



Posted by: Shae

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
Shae... "I can't wait for that."
You are gonna give me so much hell because I said that. Huh.




Fine, I deserve it.



Posted by: Little Wing

i am still laughing that was great.



Posted by: Flex

Quote Originally Posted by fantasma62
Quote 2: "What? You mean to tell me that those things don't work 3% of the time""

or...


SHIT! I forgot to pull out!



Posted by: maniclion

"Oh, I'm dizzy." Forrest Gump



Posted by: Flex

"Damn, girl. You so tight."
"Wrong hole, fool!"
-Don't be a Menace to South Central...



Posted by: gococksDJS

"No Nadia, Don't go......I've got reserves"-American Pie



Posted by: John H.

"Fuck" - you hear it all the time and it IS the most universal word because it has so many meanings and is understood worldwide. And even MIS-understood....

"No" - you hear it all the time and it is another universal word which has many meanings and is understood - and not - depending on the situation and the person(s) involved.

"Yes" - you hear it all the time and it is another universal word which has many meanings and is understood - and not - depending on the stiutation and the person(s) involved.

"Variety" - probably the MOST MIS-UNDERSTOOD word especially by those overtly "religious" and IT EXISTS in ALL THINGS because it IS life itself. Anyone that does not agree with that is very MIS-informed, ignorant, or - perhaps even "stupid" - when FACTS stair you in the face and you (meaning anyone here) still do not understand or accept for the REALITY of it you are then "stupid" - stick your bare hands in water and they are going to get wet....

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: min0 lee

Quote Originally Posted by J.K.
Here's another. It's not a funny, but one of my favorite quotes so I thought I'd add..
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Nice.



Posted by: thatguy

Quote Originally Posted by John H.
"Variety" - probably the MOST MIS-UNDERSTOOD word especially by those overtly "religious" and IT EXISTS in ALL THINGS because it IS life itself. Anyone that does not agree with that is very MIS-informed, ignorant, or - perhaps even "stupid" - when FACTS stair you in the face and you (meaning anyone here) still do not understand or accept for the REALITY of it you are then "stupid" - stick your bare hands in water and they are going to get wet....

Take Care, John H.
Holy crap, dude, give it a rest. You make everything into some kind of a gay promotion. There's nothing wrong with being gay - I have some gay friends of my own and it's not that big of a deal to me even though I'm straight. So quit making everything into a defense for your sexual preference. Geez, seems like you are so uncomfortable being gay that you should consider liking girls just so you can think about other things.

I know people give you a hard time on IM, but if you'd just post about something else besides that, people wouldn't care if you were gay or not.



Posted by: min0 lee

Quote Originally Posted by thatguy
Holy crap, dude, give it a rest. You make everything into some kind of a gay promotion. There's nothing wrong with being gay - I have some gay friends of my own and it's not that big of a deal to me even though I'm straight. So quit making everything into a defense for your sexual preference. Geez, seems like you are so uncomfortable being gay that you should consider liking girls just so you can think about other things.

I know people give you a hard time on IM, but if you'd just post about something else besides that, people wouldn't care if you were gay or not.
Is there a hidden gay message? I don't see.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by thatguy
Holy crap, dude, give it a rest. You make everything into some kind of a gay promotion. There's nothing wrong with being gay - I have some gay friends of my own and it's not that big of a deal to me even though I'm straight. So quit making everything into a defense for your sexual preference. Geez, seems like you are so uncomfortable being gay that you should consider liking girls just so you can think about other things.

I know people give you a hard time on IM, but if you'd just post about something else besides that, people wouldn't care if you were gay or not.
Hi That,

Maybe it is you that should "give it a rest"... I never said one word nor did I imply anything about Gay or Homosexual necessarily - I was speaking just as I wrote. Re-read what I said. NO, there IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with being Gay - or BiSexual - or Heterosexual - they ALL are variations of Sexuality NATURALLY so. All are just as right and proper when you care about those you are with honestly and sincerely.

I am making no "defense" for "my sexual preference" - I do not need to and neither does anyone else. I think you are confused. The way you are writing you seem to be speaking from many sides about the same thing ...

As for posting on other things when I get time I do.

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: thatguy

Guess I misunderstood the stressing of "variety" when the discussion was about sex. Not sure why else you'd go off on a strong "variety" tangent. Variety of different girls? Variety of different positions? What else would variety be referencing when discussing sex quotes?

Well, if I did misunderstand you, I apologize.



Posted by: thatguy

From your last post...

"...Gay - or BiSexual - or Heterosexual - they ALL are variations of Sexuality NATURALLY so..."

See, "variety" or "variations" is something you mention a lot when talking about being gay. I thought that's what you were referring to. What other variety were you speaking of in a sex thread?



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by thatguy
Guess I misunderstood the stressing of "variety" when the discussion was about sex. Not sure why else you'd go off on a strong "variety" tangent. Variety of different girls? Variety of different positions? What else would variety be referencing when discussing sex quotes?

Well, if I did misunderstand you, I apologize.
Hi That,

Variety TRULY IS in ALL things - including Sex. Most people seem to forget that and ITS IMPORTANCE. And there are those that would deny it even exists.

What would this life BE without variety? People are individuals - each is difference, there are no two people alike, nor should there be. Same with everything FOR GOOD REASON. How horrible would life be without variety - and variation...

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: Rocco32

Quote Originally Posted by John H.
Hi That,

Variety TRULY IS in ALL things - including Sex. Most people seem to forget that and ITS IMPORTANCE. And there are those that would deny it even exists.

What would this life BE without variety? People are individuals - each is difference, there are no two people alike, nor should there be. Same with everything FOR GOOD REASON. How horrible would life be without variety - and variation...

Take Care, John H.
That may be, I'm just glad I'm not gay!

Take Care, David H.



Posted by: thatguy

Me, too, rock.


Ok, back to bodybuilding...



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by rock4832
That may be, I'm just glad I'm not gay!

Take Care, David H.

Hi Rock,

Are you glad you are Heterosexual? Why would someone who is Gay or BiSexual not be ENTITLED to also be "...just (as) glad"? Naturally so. Would it be because of all the hatred and the bigotry which is BASED ON BULLSHIT?

Each "form" of Sexuality IS NATURAL - AND RIGHT.

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: thatguy

You are most certainly entitled to be glad to be gay. Rock said nothing to the contrary. He just said he's glad he isn't gay.

I am glad about lots of things, including not being gay. You can be glad for lots of things, too. Don't get so worked up over nothing.



Posted by: thatguy

You are most certainly entitled to be glad to be gay. Rock said nothing to the contrary. He just said he's glad he isn't gay.

I am glad about lots of things, including not being gay. You can be glad for lots of things, too. Don't get so worked up over nothing.



Posted by: Rocco32

Quote Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Rock,

Are you glad you are Heterosexual? Why would someone who is Gay or BiSexual not be ENTITLED to also be "...just (as) glad"? Naturally so. Would it be because of all the hatred and the bigotry which is BASED ON BULLSHIT?

Each "form" of Sexuality IS NATURAL - AND RIGHT.

Take Care, John H.
Wow, have an open mind there John H. Did I say anything against you? I'm just happy to be hetero. Why do you feel such a need to be defensive and overanalyze every topic?



Posted by: da jock

Sometimes if I bust too fast with my wife I'll say in a kind of rhyme "Don't worry, there's more cum where that came from..." which means I'll go at it again as soon as I'm back up & ready!



Posted by: Shae

I know exactly what those guys are saying. They say, "Shut up and blow me! I'll even get out my dick for ya."

- Hal Sparks on Extreme's "More Than Words" video




Posted by: djk80

"The best way to get a lot of sex, is to act like you dont"



Posted by: Cold Iron

Whats the definition of indecent?

When it's hard enough and in far enough, it's in decent.



Posted by: Little Wing

akk.



Posted by: Little Wing

40 seconds is long in maine. ( )



Posted by: LW83

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
40 seconds is long in maine. ( )





Posted by: Little Wing

awwww why is that sad? it had a happy ending. it was a nice story really.



Posted by: LW83

Quote Originally Posted by djk80
"The best way to get a lot of sex, is to act like you dont"

And drive a ferrari




Posted by: Little Wing

i love the car elizabeth hurley drives in bedazzled. she's amazing too.



Posted by: MTN WARRIOR

Quote Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Rock,

Are you glad you are Heterosexual? Why would someone who is Gay or BiSexual not be ENTITLED to also be "...just (as) glad"? Naturally so. Would it be because of all the hatred and the bigotry which is BASED ON BULLSHIT?

Each "form" of Sexuality IS NATURAL - AND RIGHT.

Take Care, John H.
Gotta call bullshit on this. Homosexuality is not NATURAL. If it were natural it wouldnt be a crime in some states, gay marriage would naturally allowed, they wouldnt have had to had hate crime legislation to protect THEM, it wouldnt be a stigma, it wouldnt be referred to as a scruge on society and finally religion wouldnt denounce it and shun it. So, IT AINT NATURAL



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by Cold Iron
Whats the definition of indecent?

When it's hard enough and in far enough, it's in decent.
Hi Cold,

AND, THICK ENOUGH!!!

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by LW83

And drive a ferrari
Hi Luke,

You DRIVE an "eighteen wheeler" in my humble, respectful, honorable opinion.....

TDGC,

John H.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR
Gotta call bullshit on this. Homosexuality is not NATURAL. If it were natural it wouldnt be a crime in some states, gay marriage would naturally allowed, they wouldnt have had to had hate crime legislation to protect THEM, it wouldnt be a stigma, it wouldnt be referred to as a scruge on society and finally religion wouldnt denounce it and shun it. So, IT AINT NATURAL
Hi Mtn,

Actually EACH IS COMPLETELY NATURAL: Heterosexuality, BiSexuality and Homosexuality. And DOES EXIST naturally in Nature and the Natural World of which we all are a part.

Here is one book that discusses Homosexuality among animals: BIOLOIGICAL EXUBERANCE, by Bruce Bagemihl (St. Martin's Press).

Also any botany book will discuss BiSexuality among plants for example.

You are basing your beliefs on what you have been told by others and/or learned erronously.

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: Little Wing

there is a lot of weird shit in nature. rape is common even bugs do it. some bug rapes the female by stabbing her in the back through her exoskeloton with their penis. doesn't mean i want to try it. no no not her backdoor her back back. geeze.



Posted by: Little Wing

female hyenas have a freaky mock penis. hmmm come to think of it i've seen clits like that.



Posted by: Little Wing

sometimes female spiders kill the male after sex. hmmm natural yes but doesn't mean it's okay for me to do it.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
there is a lot of weird shit in nature. rape is common even bugs do it. some bug rapes the female by stabbing her in the back through her exoskeloton with their penis. doesn't mean i want to try it. no no not her backdoor her back back. geeze.
Hi Rock,

"Murder" is natural too. It happens all the time. And comes in many "forms". Even "mental"...

I am speaking about people WHO AGREE to have Sexual relations with each other in an effort to show each other that THEY CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER SINCERELY AND HONESTLY - REGARDLESS OF THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. Because their Sexual Orientation has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with a person expressing to another THEY CARE ABOUT THEM HONESTLY. And it has absolutely nothing to do with murder - or "spider bites"... AND that they ARE NOT JUST USING each other which apparently is natural with human beings because the using of another seems to be rampant. Human beings are very often the CRUELEST of the Animal Kingdom. I've seen animals EVERY DAY treat each other MUCH BETTER than Human Beings do. And I have seen animals treat Human Beings better than Human Beings treat each other.

What you speak of may just have real purpose - I did not "create" this world certainly and neither did you or anyone else that is Human. There is a LOT we all do not understand or even have any real knowledge about - and in a lot of cases with Human Beings those Human Beings do not even make any honest effort to UNDERSTANDING or LEARNING to know "the why" of it all. To just condemn or damn WITHOUT the facts is what Human Beings do ALL the time. Including EACH OTHER.

"Bug rapes" - I have no idea as to the "why" of it - but I suspect that is a natural variation that exists for a reason. It could be that this is just the "methodology" that is utilized to accomplish the Sexual act with those bugs. Short of us "asking them" directly and getting an answer we could understand we would need to investigate all of that from a scientific viewpoint and may still not get an answer that would "satisfy" us.

Who knows - MAYBE it is that the bugs are BETTER at Sex than we are and understand better. Or have developed Sexual methods to a higher degree than Human Beings.. Who knows. And does that then make us "jealous" in some fashion?

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
sometimes female spiders kill the male after sex. hmmm natural yes but doesn't mean it's okay for me to do it.
Hi Rock,

There is a book, FORBIDDEN FRIENDSHIPS, by Michael Rocke (Oxford University Press) which discusses Sexuality among Men in Florence, Italy, around 1400-1500 A. D.. I made a thread about it ("Nearly 50% of ALL Men" I think was the title of the thread).

In that book is shows how nearly half of ALL men THAT WERE CAUGHT - THAT WERE CAUGHT! - were involved with other Men Sexually. And I asked how it is that this many Men found it so good to have Sex with each other and continued for a long period of time doing this BEFORE they were eventually caught and "prosecuted" for this private expression of feelings toward each other - how it could in any way be considered "wrong". And if this happened in one town in Italy how prevalent was it in other towns throughout the world? The only reason we have information about this ONE town is because this information that DOCUMENTS this happening SURVIVED. How many other towns in the world have had the same situation and condition where this was not documented or if documented why was that information lost or destroyed and for what reason? How is it that so many Men found it completely ok to have Sexual relations with each other? How is it then NOT completely natural? Yes, you can say that there would be a reduction in the amount of new Human Beings being reproduced. That would be a fact. But that DOES NOT MEAN that more Human Beings would not be born - there would and always will be more Human Beings being born no matter what happens. It seems to me that this is (Sex between Men) a NATURAL occurrance WITH A VALID PURPOSE. I am quite sure that ALL Sexual relationships that involve an orgasm to the point of ejaculation ARE NOT ALWAYS MEANT to procreate. This world would be FULL - OVERRUN - with other Human Beings given the fertility rate of some Human Beings.

And God HIMSELF and Christ HIMSELF - NEVER - NEVER - said one word about Sex between Men being wrong. Or of Sex between Women being wrong. MEN - HUMAN BEINGS - have made this statement - but NOT God and NOT Christ. I am SURE that IF it was "so wrong" that THEY WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING probably MANY TIMES too. THEY NEVER DID. Certainly They did not "forget" to mention it...

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: Voltimus

John H.
It seems to me, from the few threads I've read with your input. That you fell you need to push tolerance and acceptance on those that are not seeking life lessons. If you need to constantly rationalize to yourself and others that tolerance and acceptance are natural states/virtues that the human condition should be completely at ease with then I think you need to pick up your attendance in Psychology 101. Stereotypes are natural, they're the tool the human mind uses to make quick categorizations of the threats that they may encounter. You're way off base in your assessments of religion as condoning particular forms of sexuality. Just because a certain doctrine of religion doesn't, in your view, discount the "rightness" of your decision. It doesn't condone it either. The Bible is what it is, a guide to show people how they should treat others, and how to worship a particular God. I don't believe you are a subscriber to a Christian side of religion, so, what consequence is it to you? Your reading of Italy's gay percentage is not relevant, we have documented high percentages of gay people in many areas of America....they're called prisons. In the end, what it seems to boil down to is...You believe that those who don't hold your view are somehow against it. that's incorrect, I don't believe in being gay because I don't believe I'd like the sensation of a penis in my a$$. That's what being gay pretty much boils down to, you like something that someone else doesn't. Unfortunately for you, most of the population doesn't like it either. And until the day when popular opinion sways to embrace homosexuals, you will be ostracized by a few people who think you're nuts. It's your choice, you take the good with the bad. The good being that warm fuzzy you get while having sex with a man, the bad being the browbeatings you take for having sex with a man.
Finally, I don't personally care what you are, it's your choice (or nature's) choice that has made you what you are. But, there's no reason for you to point out "variety" and "nature" and the joining of 2 consenting adults in a broke-dick attempt to rationalize (covertly) what society has deemed "deviant behavior"
You don't need to....

P.S. I still don't think "fisting" is a good idea, either.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by Voltimus
John H.
It seems to me, from the few threads I've read with your input. That you fell you need to push tolerance and acceptance on those that are not seeking life lessons. If you need to constantly rationalize to yourself and others that tolerance and acceptance are natural states/virtues that the human condition should be completely at ease with then I think you need to pick up your attendance in Psychology 101. Stereotypes are natural, they're the tool the human mind uses to make quick categorizations of the threats that they may encounter. You're way off base in your assessments of religion as condoning particular forms of sexuality. Just because a certain doctrine of religion doesn't, in your view, discount the "rightness" of your decision. It doesn't condone it either. The Bible is what it is, a guide to show people how they should treat others, and how to worship a particular God. I don't believe you are a subscriber to a Christian side of religion, so, what consequence is it to you? Your reading of Italy's gay percentage is not relevant, we have documented high percentages of gay people in many areas of America....they're called prisons. In the end, what it seems to boil down to is...You believe that those who don't hold your view are somehow against it. that's incorrect, I don't believe in being gay because I don't believe I'd like the sensation of a penis in my a$$. That's what being gay pretty much boils down to, you like something that someone else doesn't. Unfortunately for you, most of the population doesn't like it either. And until the day when popular opinion sways to embrace homosexuals, you will be ostracized by a few people who think you're nuts. It's your choice, you take the good with the bad. The good being that warm fuzzy you get while having sex with a man, the bad being the browbeatings you take for having sex with a man.
Finally, I don't personally care what you are, it's your choice (or nature's) choice that has made you what you are. But, there's no reason for you to point out "variety" and "nature" and the joining of 2 consenting adults in a broke-dick attempt to rationalize (covertly) what society has deemed "deviant behavior"
You don't need to....

P.S. I still don't think "fisting" is a good idea, either.
Hi Voltimus,

Please re-read what I have said. And I have NEVER said that I - I - have done fisting myself or had it done to me. I have only stated that I have seen it done by others and watched closely - as a way of UNDERSTAND "the why" of it all and I CAN UNDERSTAND how someone WHO CARES ABOUT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WHO IS OF AGE AND ABILITY OF CONSENT AND GIVES THAT CONSENT FREELY could engage in this variation of LOVING another THEY TRULY CARE ABOUT. Each person makes their own decisions that they are or can become confortable with.

Much of what we know we HAVE LEARNED or HEARD FROM others NOT something that is "inheritant". There are many forms and avenues of learning. Anyone that does his best in this regard will consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time and OBJECTIVELY. Because they HOPEFULLY are seeking HONEST TRUTH ACURATELY and never just letting others "just shove" something down their throats - INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO RELIGION.

If you - MEANING YOU - are NOT seeking "life lessons" that is entirely up to you as an individual. People have - as one form - learned from others but they also learn from other ways too. "Life lessons" are NOT always the best way to learn although they can be especially if someone wants to see what others have experienced in their lives and how it "turned out" for them... You could liken that to someone wanting to find out what it is like to get burned so they THEMSELVES stick their hands into a hot oven - and get burned - OR - they could ask someone that it happened to and what the result was. I would prefer to ask and not find out for myself as I have the capability to UNDERSTAND what it must be like to do something like that and know the end result WITHOUT FINDING OUT MYSELF. Another form of learning or knowing "life lessons" IS TO DISCUSS FREELY and AS A MATURE ADULT or one wanting to become one TO DISCUSS - ANYTHING. "Figure it all out" form of learning... If we LIMIT what we learn than we LIMIT ourselves. We put ourselves into a "personal prison" which IS what many "religious-types" do - they are terrified somehow by the thought of "straying in any manner" INCLUDING the GOD-GIVEN right to QUESTION ALL THINGS. Being narrow-minded is a danger to each individual that subscribes to that conduct. And to others. "Stereotypes" can be and are learned as well. Very much so.

The Bible, it is just ONE form/book for ONE "religion". Not all "religions" subscribe to what it has to say. Or accept it at all. The Bible is the work of HUMAN BEINGS - MEN - at least 40 each with their own viewpoint. It IS a collection of literature - essays, prose, poems, etc. OF ONE "RELIGION". "Religion" is MAN-MADE also. Completely so. What one "religion" "believes" does not mean that another will "believe" the same thing. And they very often do not agree on much which is why there are so many "religions". Religion is nothing more than glorified politics. And as with Men they ARE VERY POLITICAL. Which is why I have not much use for them at all especially based on their past and even present practices. I DO believe in God, a "Higher Being", etc. or whatever you wish to call Him. It is "religion" I do not have much use for BASED ON THEIR CONDUCT and how they often treat others and most often for their own existance, their power over others, and the collecting of wealth to perpetuate themselves and the brainwashing they DO.

What you are saying is that "christians" consider the Bible as their only need and source. I am saying that I do NOT JUST CONSIDER ONE SOURCE FOR ANYTHING INCLUDING THE BIBLE. I CONSIDER ALL INFORMATION FROM ALL SOURCES OBJECTIVELY. The Bible certainly HAS ITS FLAWS being written BY MEN. It is a HUMAN CREATION just as with any other book. I can say this BECAUSE IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Look at the contradictions within the Bible itself. Look at some of what the Bible - as a "religious article" - condones or perpetuates. It is NOT ALL "good" to be sure.

I read one book that discusses what HAPPENED in a FREE SOCIETY - NOT PRISON - in Italy and is documented (FORBIDDEN FRIENDSHIPS, by Michael Rocke, Published by Oxford University Press). So I can certainly ask then after reading this one book "if this happened here in Italy" it CERTAINLY MUST HAVE HAPPENED elsewhere in the world. And "how is it that so MANY MEN found it 'so right' - INCLUDING those Men who set themselves up to prosecute those they "caught"? How is it that even some of those that were out to get those "sinners" were THEMSELVES involved with other Men Sexually? And found it just fine. And you have to ask yourself what happened BEFORE the "invention of religion" because this world is MILLIONS of years old at the very least. Surely these actions must have gone on all over the world prior to the "invention of religion". And were successful. And found very acceptable. They are natural variations just as with anything else in life.

Another example of what has happened is documented in at least two books: GUARDIANS OF THE FLUTES: IDIOMS OF MASCULINITY, by Gilbert Herdt (McGraw-Hill Book Co.) and RITUALIZED HOMOSEXUALITY IN MELANESIA, edited by Gilbert Herdt, Published by University of California Press). In these books it documents Sexual behavior among Men in Melanesia and surrounding areas and their becoming Men and how they achieve Manhood. One of the things they do is to live with other Men totally void of any Women until they reach a certain age usually around 25 years old or so. And one of the ways they feel they become Men is by injesting the semen of other Men who are adults because that is how Manhood is transferred from one Man to another Man. This has been going on for a very long time and has apparently been very successful for them. And the Men do naturally go to Women later in life and/or stay with Men according to their natural feelings.

You are stereotyping and being bigoted and even narrow-minded in your own statement when you speak of "...being gay... (and) ..the sensation of a penis up (an) a$$..." as "...what being gay pretty much boils down to..." which COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH anymore than being Heterosexual ONLY involves one Man and one Woman fucking and doing nothing more. There is CARE AND LOVE involved and the ONE sexual act you mention is NOT the WHOLE of the experience for anyone Heterosexual, BiSexual or Homosexual.

"Society", PEOPLE have LEARNED AND BEEN TAUGHT that Homosexuality, for example, "is wrong" when in fact that is not the case at all and it IS COMPLETELY NATURAL just as any other form of Sexuality. The FACTS are so. There IS variation in ALL things in life INCLUDING SEXUALITY. NATURALLY SO. INTENDED SO. That you - or "most" - have "learned" is NOT what IS FACT but what has been forced on you "to believe" but is NOT BASED ON THE FACTS.

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: Muscle_Girl

Quote Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR
Gotta call bullshit on this. Homosexuality is not NATURAL. If it were natural it wouldnt be a crime in some states, gay marriage would naturally allowed
Woah, woah, woah... who makes "the states" the teller of all rules within the world.. glad our country saw through the bullshit of yours cause we are definately reaping the benefits. More and more americans are moving to Canada cause your country is starting to suck ass with its rule making Bush. If he was smart, he would have saw that legalizing gay marriage would create even more tourism/immigration. Thats what politicians like right, money? The more the better? Hell, more money means better army, hah.



Posted by: Muscle_Girl

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
sometimes female spiders kill the male after sex. hmmm natural yes but doesn't mean it's okay for me to do it.
Sometimes I wish I could tho



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by Muscle_Girl
Woah, woah, woah... who makes "the states" the teller of all rules within the world.. glad our country saw through the bullshit of yours cause we are definately reaping the benefits. More and more americans are moving to Canada cause your country is starting to suck ass with its rule making Bush. If he was smart, he would have saw that legalizing gay marriage would create even more tourism/immigration. Thats what politicians like right, money? The more the better? Hell, more money means better army, hah.
Hi Muscle_Girl,

Now we can agree on some things. First - you being Canadian - GREAT!!! Canadians are very level-headed mostly and down-to-earth and SEE things for what they actually are - something the USA USED to be able to say. We DO have a LOT of really strange things going on in this country - and I am NOT talking about those people who happen to be Homosexual for example because that IS something that HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE just as with Heterosexuality and BiSexuality - SOMETHING NATURE INTENDS TO BE AND RIGHTLY SO. But I am talking about the "religious thing" and the "politics" - this country IS DYING because of that BS. TRUST ME. These people want to put all people into a "straight jacket" - that is these people want ALL your money and YOUR FREEDOM TO EVEN LIVE and have POWER over you to where THEY CONTROL EVERY MOVE YOU OR I MAKE. It is a sickness with them. And it seems to be growing, although I think with the Teri Schivo (spelling?) thing - her situation - I think people are starting to wake up somewhat as to what is happening in this country...

And I won't get into the Iraq thing - even the Iraq's think they are LOOSING their country to others INTERNALLY (the SAME that were causing trouble in the first place - the second we leave EVERYTHING WILL RETURN TO SQUARE ONE THERE TRUST ME!!!.... I am a war veteran and KNOW about war and when we went into Iraq I felt and still feel it is another Vietnam...)

As for Americans moving to Canada, you would probably have even more if the weather was a little warmer and less "wintery" although I know this is not the case everwhere in Canada. But Canada IS LOOKING DAMN GOOD!!!!! Canada has COMMON SENSE.

Oh, and the "money" - you are right about the politicians and money but you are forgetting that "RELIGION" is the VERY SAME - it IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND HAVING POWER OVER OTHERS TOO - BIGTIME!!!! I have absolutely no problem with God it IS with "RELIGION" I have NO USE FOR because of what it REALLY IS - GLORIFIED POLITICS....

And as for "the states" there ARE some here that THINK they DO HAVE A "GOD-GIVEN" "GIFT" to TELL the world what they SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT DO AND HOW AND WHEN - according to "THEIR RULES". It IS HERE even as we speak... And IT ABSOLUTELY IS - BULLSHIT - PURE BULLSHIT - POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS (they are both tied at the hips and the lips!!!!!!) ...

I can't wait to see what kind of "challenge" the "Christian coalition" puts forth towards the Legal System in this country - that "coalition" is nothing more than people who have COMPLETELY LOST THEIR MINDS and AREA VERY EXTREMIST. Imagine this, I almost think the "coalition" IF THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD ANY CHANCE would DAMN GOD HIMSELF for "taking Terry Schivo" WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION - FIRST. Hell when it is a person's time to go IT IS. She has been suffering for MORE than 15 years in this state and life is NOT for her as she now exists and has not been really for most of the last 15 YEARS - and WHO THE HELL is going to continue to pay for her medical care which has to ASTRONOMICAL - and what about all the rest of the population that DOES NOT WANT TO DIE EITHER? Will the "coalition" get involved with that too? Dr. Kivorkian tried to - as a Medical Doctor - provide a sane and safe and HELPFUL way to allow those who were terminally ill to end their life because the suffering they endure was of no use for anyone and look what happened to him..... He CARED HONESTLY about people and their suffering...

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by Muscle_Girl
Sometimes I wish I could tho
Hi Muscle_Girl,

This is where I disagree with you. But I am SURE there are Men who feel the same way about some Women too. And RIGHTLY SO - and even THROUGHOUT HISTORY. Some of the WORST "people" have been and are Female. Not ALL but a HELL OF A LOT.

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: Little Wing

OMG he IS captain kirk!!!!!! there's some THING on the wing.... sorry john. howsitgoing? good morning.





Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
OMG he IS captain kirk!!!!!! there's some THING on the wing.... sorry john. howsitgoing? good morning.

Hi Rock,

Things are fine really. GOOD MORNING TO YOU!!!!!!

I am leaving soon because I am to pick up a Bull Calf - Guernsey - today... To add to the "flock".... Ya gotta watch out all the time for them though because they WILL surprise you when you least expect it... but they can be hillarious too like all the other animals... And fun to have around... One of my Amish Buddies is going to help...

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: Muscle_Girl

Quote Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Rock,

I am leaving soon because I am to pick up a Bull Calf. Fun to have around... One of my Amish Buddies is going to help...

Take Care, John H.
Explains why you are so weird..

On a serious note, I believe those 2 were the only posts of yours in which I actually read in full, lol. I do agree with the stuff you said, though I am not one that puts time into thinking there is a life after death. To me, I just find people choose to believe in bullshit like that because they are afraid of life itself and its outcome.

Whats happening to Terri is very sad, I really wish it wouldn't have come down to 15 years later that they actually realize that she was dead 15 years ago.

I forgot about the fact of religion in politics. Though, I think most politics only play on the religion aspect and are likely not religious as they act in front of the camera. You say your doing something in the name of god and you get 20% more votes. It disgusts me that people actually buy into that complete bullshit.

Though I still hate you, I believe we do see eye to eye on some things



Posted by: Little Wing

Quote Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Rock,

Things are fine really. GOOD MORNING TO YOU!!!!!!

I am leaving soon because I am to pick up a Bull Calf - Guernsey - today... To add to the "flock".... Ya gotta watch out all the time for them though because they WILL surprise you when you least expect it... but they can be hillarious too like all the other animals... And fun to have around... One of my Amish Buddies is going to help...

Take Care, John H.
Amish buddy? That's kinda cool. Nice to lead an interesting life. My aunt used to have this massive hereford bull named Rex, in the strange and wonderful minds of children however they work, he was our friend. Our mothers nearly died of fright when they found us in the pasture with him but no matter how they warned us we never stayed away.He had the heart of Ferdinand, the bull from the childrens story, and somehow we knew it.

We watch bull riding now and i now know how our moms felt but it's strange how unbull-like he was. One of my uncles friends went into the pasture to look for my uncle one day. About four hours later us kids rescued him from atop an old tractor. He was escaping from Rex who was calmly circling the tractor wondering what that guy was doing on that damn tractor that even the cows knew didn't work anymore. It took us a while to talk him down.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by Muscle_Girl
Explains why you are so weird..

On a serious note, I believe those 2 were the only posts of yours in which I actually read in full, lol. I do agree with the stuff you said, though I am not one that puts time into thinking there is a life after death. To me, I just find people choose to believe in bullshit like that because they are afraid of life itself and its outcome.

Whats happening to Terri is very sad, I really wish it wouldn't have come down to 15 years later that they actually realize that she was dead 15 years ago.

I forgot about the fact of religion in politics. Though, I think most politics only play on the religion aspect and are likely not religious as they act in front of the camera. You say your doing something in the name of god and you get 20% more votes. It disgusts me that people actually buy into that complete bullshit.

Though I still hate you, I believe we do see eye to eye on some things
Hi Muscle_Girl,


One of the methods I use to "find people out" is to "flush them out" (bring their TRUE THEM out). I like KNOWING where people really are coming from.

Hate is a strong word and I figure that you have used it you mean it - so I know for sure and am fine with that. In life there are always people who DO "hate" - and the supply of haters seems to be growing daily in this world - epsecially people who profess to be "christian" or "religious" - I LOVE IT!!! What a bunch of "hippos"....



John H.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
Amish buddy? That's kinda cool. Nice to lead an interesting life. My aunt used to have this massive hereford bull named Rex, in the strange and wonderful minds of children however they work, he was our friend. Our mothers nearly died of fright when they found us in the pasture with him but no matter how they warned us we never stayed away.He had the heart of Ferdinand, the bull from the childrens story, and somehow we knew it.

We watch bull riding now and i now know how our moms felt but it's strange how unbull-like he was. One of my uncles friends went into the pasture to look for my uncle one day. About four hours later us kids rescued him from atop an old tractor. He was escaping from Rex who was calmly circling the tractor wondering what that guy was doing on that damn tractor that even the cows knew didn't work anymore. It took us a while to talk him down.
Hi Rock,

The Amish are basically very good people. Like any segment of Humanity you have your good and your bad though.

You can NEVER TRUST a bull but when you get them when they are young you can have a good time with them and they can be very receptive to being treated kindly by Humans but they still have their naturalness about them and you MUST WATCH WITH BOTH EYES ALL THE TIME. Especially as they grow older. That is just how it is.

We have to feed him with a bottle now and he is just like a baby. You can talk to him and he understands your meaning of kindness towards him. His eyes are something else. Kinda like the eyes of a deer. The dog likes playing with him and I think they are going to be friends - for awhile - until the bull becomes older.

The "strange and wonderful minds of children..." OH BUT YOU SURE HAVE TO WATCH your children around the animals and the animals around your children - they - BOTH - do not really KNOW. Especially with some. The goose makes me laugh - BIGTIME - it seems as if the goose RUNS the show - OWNS the farm and everyone else WORKS for it. IT RULES. And can be VERY FUNNY too. I am turning up the ground for a vegetable garden today and I KNOW I will have a lot of ONlookers especially the cats - they get it in their minds YOU are doing all this FOR THEM. And I LOVE IT. Later as you begin to get results and you are pulling weeds or bringing in the harvest the cats will BE right there thinking you are getting something FOR THEM. And you DO share. I LOVE all the help I get. Even in the flower garden - they are everywhere you least expect them to be as if they ARE GOD'S Guardian Angels for you - ALL the animals - especially the cows.

You know, as with anything, we LEARN - that is, people CAN TEACH anger and hatred in animals. I have seen animals that were so DAMN kind and REALLY CARED for human beings BECAUSE they were treated kindly and I have seen them REALLY MEAN because they were TREATED MEAN by "human beings"....

OH MY GOD I have to LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rex!!!!! I can just imagine it!!!!!!!

We have a cat that WILL RIDE on TOP of the tractor when we go out into the field and spread manure. EVERY CHANCE it gets. As soon as it hears the tractor being started up it runs right over to it and jumps right up on top and rides... It WANTS to ride ON TOP and RIDES the WHOLE trip from barn to field and back ON THE TRACTOR just like you are taking it for a ride and it LOVES IT. It sure looks "stupid" on top the tractor riding around the farm.... DAMN I think this farm doesn't really belong to me but to the animals. I just "live and work" here FOR THEM... I LOVE IT>>>>>

The kids are just as "nuts" as the animals - in fact I think they PLAN on "driving me nuts" ON PURPOSE. They seem to work hand-in-hand. Talk about LAUGHING - EVERYDAY!!!! There is NEVER a dull moment - or lack of TRULY WONDERFUL MOMENTS!!!! WHAT A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!! God is here ALL AROUND ALL THE TIME!!!!! I think He laughs JUST AS HARD...

Ya GOTTA get and have your own farm - you will NEVER be sorry you did!!!!

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: Little Wing

john, i hope you're taking lots of pictures. i think laughter can pretty much be a gauge for how things are going in anyones life. if it's missing you need to remedy that. sounds like things are pretty okay on your farm. glad getting your little bull went okay.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
john, i hope you're taking lots of pictures. i think laughter can pretty much be a gauge for how things are going in anyones life. if it's missing you need to remedy that. sounds like things are pretty okay on your farm. glad getting your little bull went okay.
Hi Rock,

Laughter? LAUGHTER? I sometimes have to leave the farm for all the things that cause me to LAUGH - TRULY. I am NOT kidding. This is one place where anyone with eyesight and foresight can TRULY LAUGH - to the heart and soul...

I think the Bull is going to be "nuts" too just as the rest of the animals. I think they "get together" and "plot"... And the kids know their language too.

Have you ever seen a group of very small children in someone's yard playing and having a good time and when there are animals with them how much fun they too are having? MY GOD they KNOW how to have FUN!!!! And the faces the animals will make when things are going on - it is just like they KNOW what is happening and are one of "them"...

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: Little Wing

i always say about my dog "you should've seen the look on his face" i think some animals like to make us laugh. one of my daughter's friends was watching him in the snow n said they'd never seen a rottweiler frolic before. he's a big nut which makes him fit in well around here.



Posted by: Muscle_Girl

Quote Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Muscle_Girl,


One of the methods I use to "find people out" is to "flush them out" (bring their TRUE THEM out). I like KNOWING where people really are coming from.

Hate is a strong word and I figure that you have used it you mean it - so I know for sure and am fine with that. In life there are always people who DO "hate" - and the supply of haters seems to be growing daily in this world - epsecially people who profess to be "christian" or "religious" - I LOVE IT!!! What a bunch of "hippos"....



John H.
Your an idiot.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by rockgazer69
i always say about my dog "you should've seen the look on his face" i think some animals like to make us laugh. one of my daughter's friends was watching him in the snow n said they'd never seen a rottweiler frolic before. he's a big nut which makes him fit in well around here.
Hi Rock,

I think the animals have a lot over many human beings. BIGTIME!!!

I put them in the same category as the children - SACRED AND PRECIOUS.

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: John H.

Quote Originally Posted by Muscle_Girl
Your an idiot.
Muscle,

Coming from you, I would take that as a COMPLIMENT. SERIOUSLY>

John H.



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