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Originally posted by w8lifter Originally posted by Dr. Pain Assumming Leslie and w8 are in, and myself.....we are looking for two more people! Do we have a Bulk ladies and gentlemen? DP Geezus...you're gonna be like 230 soon K...I'm in ..obviously ..just posted pics in my journal for you too
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Originally posted by lina No journal is complete without "before and after" pictures! So, DP you cut is done? Great time to bulk doing the holiday season... I wish I could join too! |
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Originally posted by mochy I wish I could bulk with you guys.
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain Lina....I look about the same as the pics in Mama's Boy's Journal......Maybe bigger because a few more cuts w8's are in her Journal Leslie as I understand it, is too big to fit on the screen! SO why don't you join us??? I will help w/everyone's programs...both nutrtional and training! :addedperk?: DP |
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain And what's stopping you? First two are IN! DP |
My diet's always clean, though I don't always eat as many cals as I should. Feedback is always appreciated though. |
Originally posted by mochy Not lean enough to start bulking.
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Originally posted by CLPgold As far as abs go mine are always there so I'm not too concerned about them. My main concern is bringing out my quads,hammies and calves. My upper body (especially shoulders, bis and tris - my strong points) have no problem. For some reason I don't seem to have the same pain tolerance to train my legs as I do my upper body. I find my legs respond well to running and endurance exercises, but I don't like endurance exercises much. I like to train heavy. |
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Originally posted by karategirl Hello all. I would love to increase my lbm. Mochy mentioned not being lean enough to bulk. How lean do I have to be to play? Also I teach cardio kickboxing classes 3 x/week. Is that too much cardio for a true bulk? |
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Originally posted by karategirl I'm never happy with the bf. I guess I'm out
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Originally posted by w8lifter Well, ideally you want to be happy w/ your physique right now in terms of BF because you will gain a little BF. Mochy is definitely lean enough to do a 5-lb gain. Not much we can do about the kickboxing, and I don't plan to skip mine either, just make sure you eat enough to compensate for the activity. DP....this was a good idea..thank you. |
I have ingested have let me "throw some weight" around like never before! I did 2 sets 25lb DB curls for 8 reps...a weight I barely got 2 reps on and I did 35lb DB Shoulder Press for 7 reps, WITHOUT help, this was a wieght I'd get 2 or 3 asssisted reps |
Originally posted by Leslie2196 Me?! She was MY example (sorry W8 )Come on W8, we both got suckered into the sweet tooth thing (me worst than you ) Remember all the PM's ya sent me, about post contest binges and fat asses. We have worked so hard to get where we are, we cannot blow it on sugar and cashews!! Ok girl, I say we bulk together. Maybe a lil friendly contest between us? I dunno, I need some more motivation sicne there is no show date playing in my head! What do ya say?DP what do u think??? |
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Originally posted by Leslie2196 * I am NOT happy with my BF right now (as you all know due a LENGTHY irresponsible post-contest binge) However, I will still do the bulk. The extra weight I have put on and all the extra carbs I have ingested have let me "throw some weight" around like never before! I did 2 sets 25lb DB curls for 8 reps...a weight I barely got 2 reps on and I did 35lb DB Shoulder Press for 7 reps, WITHOUT help, this was a wieght I'd get 2 or 3 asssisted repsSo I am content with carrying a lil layer o BF for now. I know I will pay for it durting my cut, but when cutting I am ALL OR NOTHING, so should be alright..... *ahem....W8, this was my idea
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Well, I'd join y'all but I am just finishing a 6 week bulk next week. So far I am up 15 pounds. I am going to do a quick mini cut than continue bulking after the new year -- so basically, I am on a completely opposite schedule. Anyway, it'll be fun to watch. So whats the prize? |
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain Yes....it was...and I lost the post that would have beat you to it (see reply in w8's Journal).....I've just embellished it! Leslie.......I'm gald you didn't see the "Picture" comment! ...YET :eek"DP |
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Originally posted by w8lifter Well, ideally you want to be happy w/ your physique right now in terms of BF because you will gain a little BF. Mochy is definitely lean enough to do a 5-lb gain. Not much we can do about the kickboxing, and I don't plan to skip mine either, just make sure you eat enough to compensate for the activity. DP....this was a good idea..thank you. Do we have to have skinfolds done? |
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Originally posted by Leslie2196 Yea, yea ..... I DID see the pic comment, only it was yesterday and I forgot about it.Thanks for reminding me I will have you know, the only part of me to big to fit in the screen are my boobies.......and, um....er, maybe my ASS... SO, what are you saying???? Should I do a cut before this bulk? To get off the lard??
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Originally posted by CLPgold Alright I'm in. But I'm super drunk right now so does it count??? Mwah haha. I say it does and I'm sticking with it. I plan on gaining 5lb of lean body mass only. No body fat. I rarely retain water (probably cuz I pee every 20 min). I'm going home for Christmas from Dec.21/02 - Jan. 3/03. But I will be at the gym there. I haven't been at my old stomping grounds back home for almost 3 years so I'm excited. This will be good. Basically I want to gain muscle and no fat cuz I gotta look real good. And since I'm getting my "boobs" March 10th I have to gain as much lean mass as possible before I take a month off for recovery. I'll take my weight, measurements and bodyfat on Tuesday. I am not giving up alcohol during this phase. We'll have to add that into the equation. Just being honest. I'm gonna be home during peak alcohol season so I can't quit, and right now I'm in training... My diet's always clean, though I don't always eat as many cals as I should. Feedback is always appreciated though. My diet is more high carb than fats and it works well for me, except when cutting. Fruit is a big fave and I still stay very lean. People in the gym always ask if I'm competing soon cuz I stay so lean. DP and w8, if you guys will oblige, pump all the info you can give me my way. I am not afraid to train hard or heavy. I love it!!! And will push the limits. DP if you say sqaut, squat I shall at whatever weight you think I should!!! As far as abs go mine are always there so I'm not too concerned about them. My main concern is bringing out my quads,hammies and calves. My upper body (especially shoulders, bis and tris - my strong points) have no problem. For some reason I don't seem to have the same pain tolerance to train my legs as I do my upper body. I find my legs respond well to running and endurance exercises, but I don't like endurance exercises much. I like to train heavy. I love cardio! Just never do it cuz I don't have time. Alright, there's my drunken input. But I'm GAME!!! |
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Originally posted by CLPgold I'm going home for Christmas from Dec.21/02 - Jan. 3/03. But I will be at the gym there |
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Originally posted by dvlmn666 Awe what the hell, I'm on a quest to gain more mass. So why not go for this. So what all are required on tuesday other than just W8? I'm in if everybody lets me.
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain Hell Fuck Yeah....now rub off on w8! DP |
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Originally posted by karategirl You know I've been lurking around and I have been trying to fool around with what you and DP do nutritionally but I'm not really sure if I'm nailing it. i.e. this mornings breakfast 1whole egg 4 whites 1oz. pepper jack cheese green pep and onion (cooked in olive oil) 3/4 cup frozen unsweeted blue berries I have had good success with the "old" clean way of eating. You've seen my old pre comp journal. But I really would like to learn this for my own benefit as well as my clients. I'd like to try to maintain/cut and add lbm. I'm definatly up new work out and a new challenge. If you think it can be done, count me in. |
I know how to do them right! My body just can't do it unless I do a REALLY WIDE stance. So I have to stick with the Smith.
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Originally posted by CLPgold Hey guys what about grapes. I really love them! |
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Originally posted by CLPgold BTW I can only do Smith squats. I have a long torso and shorter legs so when I squat with free weights the load automatically goes to my low back instead of legs. I have tried many times over the years to adjust this and had top trainers tell me they can show me how to do it right. Well, they're wrong. My body just isn't built properly. I know how to do them right! My body just can't do it unless I do a REALLY WIDE stance. So I have to stick with the Smith.
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Originally posted by w8lifter Yeah DP...what about grapes...I really like those too and hey...what about bananas while we're at it
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain You fucking know better You guys can start with 1/2 a banana post W/O...but I would trade the grapes for Sweet potato, Brown Rice or Oatmeal...... It's up to each person.........I can tell you that sugars versus increased protein and fats...will lead to more fat gain! DP |
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Originally posted by CLPgold Ok I'll go with the brown basmati. Seeing as I have this strange fetish for young East Indian men these days anyways.... LMAO Yes, the current young hottie I get to see at Christmas is East Indian. SH#1 is Iranian. Yes, he's still around. He's a good friend, that's all. Why? Cuz he didn't make me cum. LMFAO. Is that TMI. OK forget the tuna then, I'm just getting canned salmon. I'll get back into eating more of my oatmeal and yams. I've got to have 1-2 fruits a day. It keeps me outta the junk food. |
. Another journal will be a PITA, i'll just continue my current journal and i'm going to follow this very closely.
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Originally posted by CLPgold Butt people like my big round booty!!! OK no grapes. I'll have to avoid buying bananas too cuz when I'm in a rush I just can't resist. What about oranges? As you may have noticed in my eating habits, I hardly ever eat any starchy foods or low GI carbs. I love yams, and only make potatoes about every couple of weeks. I could live forever and never eat rice. I never eat breads unless I've made my own homemade bread which I haven't done in months. I've got a pantry full of oatmeal, kamut flakes, spelt cereal, cracked wheat/rye/flax and kamut kernels. Just haven't eaten them in a awhile. Hehe Huggie Bear is looking at the screen pretending like he can read what I'm typing. My shopping list and food itinerary for this week: I gotta premake all my food to go away. *eggs, eggs, and more eggs *canned tuna (not a big fan) *canned salmon? I love it! Can I have it DP and w8? *5blend oil for my salads - make my own dressing w/the oil, soya sauce, brown rice vinegar and sesame seeds - is this OK? *salad mix *yams - plain *chicken breasts- baked w/sea salt and Montreal Steak Spice *ribs - baked w/fresh squeezed lemon juice, lemon/pepper seasoning, sea salt *oatmeal/kamut *apples/oranges *steamed brocoli ( I love that stuff) *steamed green or yellow beans - whatever is in season or on sale *I might pick up some Princess Blend rice - it's got white, brown, red and wild rice in it. Or I might just have brown and wild rice. *I like boiled soy beans. What's your call on these? *glutamine and my other supps. inc.flax oil and apple cider vinegar *I may or may not pick up protein powder. If I do it will either be Interactive Soy, or PVL Whey Gold. Or I might try the Isopure. This is iffy. *I'm not gonna have any cottage cheese. *I may have a couple protein bars in there, but I'll try not too. *I may go out once or twice for a 12oz NY or Tbone and 1/2plain baked potatoe. If there 's something missing I should have let me know. Or if there's something there that shouldn't be let me no. Except do not OMIT the RIBS! RIBS and PORK CHOPS are must haves! |
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Originally posted by CLPgold Alright I'll substitue the acv for the other. NO ORANGES! GRRRR I can definitely enjoy the brown basmati. Why oatmeal over kamut? I've got spelt cereal too that cooks up to the consistency of cream o wheat. Is that OK? |
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Originally posted by w8lifter 1) Leslie 2) CLPgold 3) dvlm666I'm in 4) w8 I'm in 5) DP.....I am in DP |
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain brown rice vinegar is going to have sugar in it, |
didn't even see that.
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain Assuming Leslie and w8 are in, and myself.....we are looking for two more people! Starting date: 11/26/02 Ending date 12/31/02....morning of (so 35 days inclusive) Rules 4) w8 MUST be reported on Tuesdays....before water (one meal is OK) 5) Meals...cheats...confessions...MUST be reported daily, weekend meals may be reported on Monday, vacation meals must be logged in upon return DP |
I will be away from 12/20-1/06 in FLorida. I will probably not have access to the internet. We are staying at my BF's mom's place and I dont think she has a computer! How will I survive w/o IM??
We will be DRIVING down(grrrrrrrr) since my BF and his bro are chickens. It will take like 28 hours Talk about planning meals!|
Originally posted by Dr. Pain Leslie....you will have to do what I do when "out of town"....find a puter in a puter store, mall, etc.....there are so many internet services nowadays wanting you to try their product....it is impossible not run into these...even in kiosks in malls DP |
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy DP, do you have any torso shots where you're not wearing a vest? |
Widh I woulda known about this BEFORE I started my own bulker
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy DP, do you have any torso shots where you're not wearing a vest? |
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Originally posted by cornfed Well, shiat Widh I woulda known about this BEFORE I started my own bulker Oh, well. I wish I could join y'all, but I'm about to start reducing cals slowly, and then cut a 'lil. But on the bright side, I put on 18lbs (~11.5 lean/~6.5 fat) in the past 6wks G'luck
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Originally posted by Twin Peak In fairness, he posted some in his journal. Why have you retired from competing? Last I remember you were considering another. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak You gained 12 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks? Um, can I ask how? Two pounds per week is ludicrious. Were you taking anything? |
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain Assuming Leslie and w8 are in, and myself.....we are looking for two more people! Starting date: 11/26/02 Ending date 12/31/02....morning of (so 35 days inclusive) Rules 1) Women must gain a minimum of 5 "clean" pounds! 2) Man/men must gain 8 or more "clean" pounds! (no cheating on weigh-ins with water or gorging) 3) Either gender MUST drink at least 5 liters per day 4) w8 MUST be reported on Tuesdays....before water (one meal is OK) 5) Meals...cheats...confessions...MUST be reported daily, weekend meals may be reported on Monday, vacation meals must be logged in upon return 6) suggestions Do we have a Bulk ladies and gentlemen? DP |
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Originally posted by Leslie2196 and how will you be monitoring THAT?
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