If your friend is gonna go out binge drinking then as far as i'm concerned he has no right to be using AAS. end of story.

Well to be fair to him he's a big bastard and about 12% bf that takes his training very seriously.

Binge drinking is his downfall. As long as that much Dbol isn't goin to seriously hurt him, that's all I was worried about.

he might well do but still, its two polar opposite lifestyles! that do not at any level work well together. If he truely took his training seriously he wouldn't binge drink, full stop. if he's big now he could be so much better, bigger and leaner without the drinking. all he is doing is making it harder for himself and his health.

but 100mg dbol is a lot by anyones standards and without liver support is asking for trouble. if it was me i'd be on about 8-10 liversupport a day with milk thistle on hand in case that wasn't enough.

I agree, but it's his life.

What do you think of UDCA Trapz? I've heard very good reports.

Also, what sort of liver support do you use, is there something readily available in the UK?

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I gotta burst in here about the "hope he's got liver support" did any of you read the thread about the fact that there is no real proof about AAS and liver damage over short term use? Now 100mg is a huge dose, I'm not saying its not. But dam it seems everyone on here will just use anything anyone says will help to counter act one drug or another. Have any of you actually looked at all the shit you put in your bodies on a cycle? Back when I started 20 yrs ago we didn't know about half this stuff. Sure its come a long way over the years and some of the stuff actually helps.... BUT MOST OF THIS IS BROSCIENCE.... I know guys that took tons of gear back then and they are fine today. I'm glad there is all this new stuff to help people along on a cycle, my point is, is all of it necessary? Oh by the way, the new fad is "Holy water" 1 glass a day and it clears everything.....

Brawla, your liver is going to fail you if you drink excessively while popping Dbombs!

And I'm telling your "friend" that you're on steroids!

I've never heard of UDCA.

Lol. I haven't even done my first cycle yet, and when I do it will be Test E only at 500mg for 6 weeks.

Terrible idea my friend. I like the fact that you will run a moderate dose of 500mg of just Test for your first cycle (props given), but 6 weeks is not long enough for a long ester like Enanthate. 12 weeks would be ideal for your first cycle since the gear might not start to really kick in until the 6th week!

Terrible idea my friend. I like the fact that you will run a moderate dose of 500mg of just Test for your first cycle (props given), but 6 weeks is not long enough for a long ester like Enanthate. 12 weeks would be ideal for your first cycle since the gear might not start to really kick in until the 6th week!

Lol was meant to be 12 weeks! Edited .

Was because I read D-bol.

Hey TRAP take a chill pill ok. I think your missing the point. I never claimed liv52 was Broscience, I said most of this is Broscience. First off every part of AAS is bad since its not part or your body make up to begin with. My point is people are using drugs whether they really need them or not. It's the better to be safe attitude. Really? Who says these other things are really safe? Do you know the long term affects any of these drugs will have on your body. I'm just playing devils advocate here and pointing out sometimes what works for one person is not always the answer for another. Case in point someone posts about gyno, well its like dogma everyone chants off the same thing. And maybe it works, but how many that spout it off actually have had gyno and used exactaly what they are touting as "fact" and it worked for them? And how many are just repeating what everyone else has said? Its great that there is a place like this where people can come and ask questions and get help.

Trap, I'm not trying to pick a fight with you I'm only saying a lot of advise is given here by a lot of "newbes" as well as many experienced users. I just worry about the "newbe's" passing on hearsay advice without actually trying or experiencing much of what they tout.