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Cutting for Keeps & Kissing Sugah Good-bye


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Posted by: w8lifter

Quick....gimme a leg exercise that isn't leg press, smith squat, sumo squat, lunges or step ups



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
Quick....gimme a leg exercise that isn't leg press, smith squat, sumo squat, lunges or step ups
Leg Extension, hack squat, front squat, back squat, DB squat, SLDL...BB or DB.......all your curls, etc



Posted by: w8lifter

Thanks ...I was thinking SLDL, but I don't think she's ready for it yet.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
I didn't do anything bad

How was your day?....other than busy
OMG.....just relentless.....

Good W/O

Read Vince saying that Benching was 90% anterior delts...and so was conventional DB pressing (a little exagerated)...that the only real effective pressing movement was to touch all 4 bells in a low incline DB bench...which means Neutral grip....

Well he was right....7 sets, better stretch, harder.....only went to 105's...probably could do more, first rep is a bitch...

Followed w/decline DB flyes X 4 sets

Smith low incline presses to the neck (got good w8 here) X 4 sets

Finished with swiss ball flyes between the lower cables X 3 sets

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Andrew....my client can't fully supinate her left arm...she's never had any injury to it and she doesn't really know why. Like...wtf would that be from? I've been able to train around it, but I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to help increase her range of motion?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
Thanks ...I was thinking SLDL, but I don't think she's ready for it yet.
Do it w/DB's...easier to correct the form


DP

How was your day...other than busy? Sit in any Flax today



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Pain
OMG.....just relentless.....

Good W/O

Read Vince saying that Benching was 90% anterior delts...and so was conventional DB pressing (a little exagerated)...that the only real effective pressing movement was to touch all 4 bells in a low incline DB bench...which means Neutral grip....

DP
I knew that! So....you couldn't get as much w8 like that though?



Posted by: w8lifter

LOL...no I didn't

Actually...I had a great day...other than being completely exhausted...I totally love training people ( ) I have great clients ....they're fun to push



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
Andrew....my client can't fully supinate her left arm...she's never had any injury to it and she doesn't really know why. Like...wtf would that be from? I've been able to train around it, but I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to help increase her range of motion?

It's unlikly wrist, more likely elbow and possibly shoulder....anything from spasm, nerve impingment to lack of use causing ROM problems.....

First check her ROM


I would start with stretching........arm back grabing a post or pole, after 20 seconds classic shoulder stretch, rotate the hand 180 degress to take it from the shoulder to the bicep....this will like hurt a bit.

Next, with her arm str8, have her pull her fingers all the way back towards her body (palm away)..20-30 seconds, then arm still str8, hand bends the other way......palm towards the body

Throw in a tricep overhead stretch...then

Recheck her ROM

DP




Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
LOL...no I didn't

Actually...I had a great day...other than being completely exhausted...I totally love training people ( ) I have great clients ....they're fun to push




Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
I knew that! So....you couldn't get as much w8 like that though?
Not as much.....but it's "Not how much you lift, but how good you look doing it!"


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

That's awesome....thanks



Posted by: w8lifter

I almost said that to someone tonight, lol



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
I almost said that to someone tonight, lol
What...Awesome...LOL

No...I know what you meant.....it's nice to look good and be strong at the same time!

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Yeah...wish I was as strong as I looked, lol



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Leah......you are....you just haven't "tapped" into it yet!


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Well...when the fuq am I gonna "tap" then...I don't think I ever will! ...GGGGRRRRRRRRR



Posted by: Dr. Pain

LMAO! It's coming!


DP



Posted by: w8lifter





Posted by: w8lifter

K...I'm going to bed in a minute just updating my meals



Posted by: Dr. Pain

4.75 was it?

K...me so tired...


GNL



Posted by: w8lifter

I had to go back to see what you were talking about, lol

K...GNA



Posted by: w8lifter

UGH....I'm so tired....leg day always kicks my ass...I sleep hard, except that Taylor woke up at 4 and puked so I didn't sleep after that



Posted by: Dr. Pain

GML

Tired too....up a lot last night....no bedtime meal...fasting for my blood test in 75 minutes....



Posted by: w8lifter

EEEEWWWWW....that sucks!

GM

FUQ!....Taylor has to stay home from school and rob's at training and I have to work

My choice is to cancel everyone or let Skyler stay home and watch her GGGGGRRRRR



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Skyler stays....what about your mom?

Or call Rob back from the gym?

DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Other symptoms?



Posted by: w8lifter

She's working....just a slight fever.


FFFUUUUQQQQ!!!



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Sounds like a short stomach flu......I know you probably don't have these in the house....but we use either/both...activated charchol caps....probiotics (acidolphilous)


DP

I have to go in a sec...for 20-30 min



Posted by: w8lifter

I paged rob to see if he could come home early....of course he didn't take his pager since he's w/ the team right now....and now the fukker won't stop beeping at me

No...I don't have those. I hope it's not the norwalk virus, lol.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

No......but don't let here dehydrate, small swallows until she can keep something down........unfortunately......loose stool or diarhea is often next... sorry.. :*:


DP

bbs



Posted by: w8lifter

I know...thanks



Posted by: w8lifter

K...so I have an hr between clients today...so I guess I'm doing a super quick ab/calf workout and cardio.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Show me?



Posted by: w8lifter

Calves:

6 sets standing calf, 30 sec rest
3 sets seated calf, 30 sec rest

Abs:

3 sets machine crunch
MB double crunch w/ DB between feet, 3 sets
3 sets oblique raise



Posted by: w8lifter

I can read your mind



Posted by: Dr. Pain

OMTA LMAO!

One minute.......will fix



Posted by: w8lifter

I am seriously going to drown this fuqqing beeper, lol



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Originally posted by w8lifter
Calves:

6 sets standing calf, 30 sec rest

reps 12, 15, 18, 20, 25, 12h

3 sets seated calf, 30 sec rest

reps, 25, 35, 50

Abs:

3 sets machine crunch

only if you feel it, these usually aren't good, a better way is a small seat under a high (just above hands as you reach up behind) cable, rope attachment, 1/4 to 1/3 forward bend, strong exhilation....try not to move the hips...only the torso


MB double crunch w/ DB between feet, 3 sets

3 sets oblique raise

DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
I am seriously going to drown this fuqqing beeper, lol
Freezer!



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Back in 30-40 minutes

Good Luck and Good Day if you're gone!

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

only if you feel it, these usually aren't good, a better way is a small seat under a high (just above hands as you reach up behind) cable, rope attachment, 1/4 to 1/3 forward bend, strong exhilation....try not to move the hips...only the torso


No! I am not doing any seated cable shit anymore....not only does it rip my fucking shoulders off but I never feel it.

And those reps are too high....do you want me to use no weight???



Posted by: w8lifter

SYS



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter


No! I am not doing any seated cable shit anymore....not only does it rip my fucking shoulders off but I never feel it.

Once you fix your arms by your ears...there is NO shoulder strain.....get over it!

And those reps are too high....do you want me to use no weight???

I don't care if you wuss at 10 pounds...DO IT!




SYS!



Posted by: w8lifter

FUQ you frustrate me! I'm not doing that exercise.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

I don't care about that exercise.....if the 'Sissy Machine" works for you, FINE!

I WANT THOSE REPS!


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

GGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr



Posted by: Dr. Pain

...AND...you're not sticking to you're split...so WHO is frustr8ing WHOM ???


PD ..<---see, frustr8ed



Posted by: w8lifter

I know...but I told you I still wanted to train instinctively...just take a day's rest when I need it...I don't need it yet.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Server shit again....I'll be home and in and out till almost 11 YT



Posted by: w8lifter

Get a fuqqing new one, lol.

I'm leaving about quarter after 10



Posted by: Dr. Pain

What's better than cable....satellite? Will I type and spell any better?

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Fuq no, lol

Ok...I only had time for 25 minutes cardio...no weights....still have to go back to work later this evening....rob's at a response now and don't know when he'll be back....my kids are being left alone far too much



Posted by: w8lifter

So...I completely underestimated my soccer player....there's no teaching....I tell her what to do, even if she's never done it before, and she picks it right up....I'm gonna have to completely re-do her program :fuck:

...and I thought I was busy right now...it's only getting worse



Posted by: w8lifter

I have already cheated....I don't care, lol.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
Fuq no, lol

Ok...I only had time for 25 minutes cardio...no weights....still have to go back to work later this evening....rob's at a response now and don't know when he'll be back....my kids are being left alone far too much

What was our cardio deal????

You need to stick to your split Missy

I have only trained one person like that in all my years of training people (although I assume you are like that), when I trained The Rose.....I'd show her once....not only would she get it at that point, perfect form (she is afraid to cheat, always puts form first...so sometimes progress eludes her), but she could and has taught passed it on to others...... :0

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

You said twice a week!



Posted by: Dr. Pain

....yes...and that's twice!


WAROLRD called in sick...., so long interuptions

bbs



Posted by: w8lifter

Yeah....so I'm done

SYS



Posted by: w8lifter

DP...when/if you get a chance there's a thread in supps that needs to be axed



Posted by: Dr. Pain

On...it..

SYS

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Tank's already on it...thanks though.

Back to work....see ya



Posted by: Dr. Pain

K...sorry, getting my assed kicked
UPS buried me!

SYL

DP



Posted by: mmafiter

Hey w8, since I didn't see you at ALL today.



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by mmafiter
Hey w8, since I didn't see you at ALL today.

lmao! I know!



Posted by: w8lifter

Just fuq!



Posted by: cornfed

who me? just had to say it ... how the fuq are ya, sis?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Hey...I've got one more hour before I can say that!

BTW...flax doesn't taste that bad...and you shouldn't cook w/it....low smoking point.

But if you remember "Hell Unleashed" and another conversation we had about PWO Shakes,
I thought we were in agreement that meso-endo's and endo's esp....would benefit more by keeping their metabolism/glucagon/fat oxidation elevated, rather than reducing cortisol and inducing insulin by omitting fat and/or fiber PWO? (are you aligning with conventional "sugar-plum wisdom" here?)

DP

how did I make that square...it doesn't even appear on my screen?



Posted by: cornfed

Well, I don't agree "woth" you , but what the hey?



Posted by: w8lifter

did I miss something?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by cornfed
Well, I don't agree "woth" you , but what the hey?
Yeah....most w/strong metabolisms don't, the ones with slower/poorer metabolisms wonder why they can't get lean, LOL

Like you said, what the Hey! But then again, this is about "our philosophies"...and we may agree or disagree. And we are only speaking in the context of cutting....where a person may place "fat burning" ahead of "Optimal Recovery"

DP





Posted by: cornfed

Actually, I'm a meso w/ moderate endo-tendencies. My metabolism isn't that gr8

"fat-burning" or catabolism but what the sh!t?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
did I miss something?

I'm just trying to figure your reply in the flax oil thread?

We had discussed were PWO shakes (protein/simple sugars) and such may be benefiacial to non-IR's, slower carbs plus protein for the next metabolic class...and for the IR masses who cut.....I thought we were of the unified contention of "Why waste 3 hours leaving low insulin space, and 3 hours getting back to were you would have been, 6 hours....for the sake of recovery versus fat loss/oxidation"

I thought we further agreed that the post W/O meal when cutting fell in it's time slot...as to gastic emptying....2-2.5 hours post shake, 3 hours post solid meal, irregardless.....and if the metabolism stayed elevated...so be it?

DPWO



Posted by: w8lifter

Ya know what...I don't even know what I said in the that thread, and to be honest...can't even understand what you're saying...that's how fuqqing fried I am right now.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by cornfed
Actually, I'm a meso w/ moderate endo-tendencies. My metabolism isn't that gr8

"fat-burning" or catabolism but what the sh!t?
There are "ways" to prevent/forestall catabolism my Corny friend, that don't involve insulin spiking!

The trouble with insulin spiking/surging...and your "endo" tendencies...is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to determine the proper level of carbohydrate/glycogen replenishment for your degree of hepatic/skeletal depletion, IR response or lack of one, and blood chemistry at the moment!

Unless you know your body extremely well.........it's a very very difficult science. It's so much easier just not to "go there!"

DP

Back in a while....this is not a good forum for this!



Posted by: w8lifter

Andrew that was posted over a year ago .....pre Pain



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Oh....excuse me...that's how tired I am....Seriously.......early bedtimes for all?

Please...excuse me....I need to learn to read when I learn to spell and type?

Then we think alike?

SYS


DP



Posted by: cornfed

ahhhh... the beauty of test-strips LOL it's not that hard if you can get an average range of your blood sugar @ a certain consumption of sugar and follow that out, having a general idea of your insulin levels isn't rocket science, but then again I generally overcomplicate or over simplify things often and your right about "this forum". I'll drop it and I opologize, w8, for takin' up so damn much space



Posted by: w8lifter

Yeah....K.....



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
Just fuq!
Ditto!



Posted by: w8lifter

My server is fugging slow.....my patience is really fuqqing low...I'm so tired...tomorrow is going to be a hell day....gotta give a seminar, attend a formal party and write two more fuqqing programs...plus train people...... ....not to mention my diet has been SHIT!!!!! today



Posted by: Dr. Pain

No...not the "shit eating diet plan" My water has been like shit!

Let's call it early....but first Hi

Is there anything I can help with?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Damn your server is slow...why not turn off sigs and avi's, and go to 10 posts per page....before my server joins your


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Pain
No...not the "shit eating diet plan" My water has been like shit!

Let's call it early....but first Hi

Is there anything I can help with?

I'm so fuqqing frustrated w/ myself. I don't think I can do it this time. I'm just going to go, I just want to go to bed.

GNA....thanks ...GN



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Leah.....please?

Vent, scream, cheat, just don't self-destruct.....Please?

I care and I know you care......just go to bed early now.and see what the morning brings.....

I will support you NO MATTER WHAT......and my friendship is w/o bounds......

Just don't make any descisions now.....it's important....w8 lease:

GNL Everything will be OK ,and W/O :serenitynow:

A



Posted by: mmafiter

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
I'm so fuqqing frustrated w/ myself. I don't think I can do it this time. I'm just going to go, I just want to go to bed.

GNA....thanks ...GN
I've found this to be so true, there are many decisions I've made in anger/frustration that I regret today.

"Never cut a tree down in the wintertime. Never make a negative decision in the low time. Never make your most important decisions when you are in your worst mood. Wait. Be patient. The storm will pass, the spring will come"

Another of my favourites;

"Nana karobi ya oki - If you fall down seven times, get up eight times."

Leah, I know you don't train any more in martial arts, but I want you to really think about these two sayings above. Remember how it felt like you'd never be able to advance to your next belt. Remember how strong you felt as a person when you did it? You can do this as well, you just have to keep going.



Posted by: w8lifter

Thanks you two.

I'm just tired of disappointing myself. I don't want to cheat or give up....I want to do what I tell everyone else to do, it's not that fuqqing hard, but at the end of the day...hell, in the middle of the day, I'm wiped and have NOTHING left. I haven't hit my water yet...in weeks, I don't feel like I can stick to any specific meal plan, let alone this one...and it's not that I want to cheat, I don't....I just have no energy - mental or physical - to do things right...I feel like I rarely see my kids, and I haven't cleaned my house in 2 fuqqing weeks....hell, I seriously didn't see rob at all yesterday, I went to bed at 9:30 ( ) although I didn't sleep then. I only got 2.5 litres of water yesterday...and that was consciously trying

I'm just so tired of disappointing myself ( and you ) and fuqqing up. Sorry for this rant....lol, CLP asked me if I happen to work for Goodlife...lol, does that give you any indication of the job when she can tell just cause she worked there

I'm not even going to say I'll smarten up, get six litres or stick to my meal plan, because I know I won't ( )....I guess I'll just be w/ Nat and just keep on keeping on.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by mmafiter


"Nana karobi ya oki - If you fall down seven times, get up eight times."
That says it all Awesome quote....one of the BEST!


GML :P


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

GM



Posted by: w8lifter

Can we do shoulders right now?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Yes....anything you want (you can quote that back to me anytime too)

.....but I need 20

Would you consider a rest day....it's a busy day for you, and unless this relieves stress?


A



Posted by: w8lifter

Standing BB Press

Seated Single Arm press on ball

Lever Shrug

EZ curl Upright Row

Cable Laterals, drop sets

Prone lateral on ball

DB Lateral

??



Posted by: w8lifter

I am busy...but I'd rather work out than not workout.

I have to go by quarter to though.

....is there any way to ditch a training partner for good? lol...she's fucking up my intensity by yakking



Posted by: tigress

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
....is there any way to ditch a training partner for good? lol...she's fucking up my intensity by yakking
I have always wanted a training partner, but my standards would be very high. I have tried it a few times, but the person would be late/not show up/not be serious. Maybe someday, in the meantime I train alone.

Seriously L, if she is hampering your efforts in the gym, with your schedule crunched the way it is, ditch her.

Also, are you training in the same gym you are working in? I found that really hard when I was working in the weightroom. Ppl want to chat, want advice, whatever.



Posted by: tigress

Oh yea, and keep on keeping on.



Posted by: w8lifter

Yes...I'm training in the same gym I work at...I really don't mind that part....but my partner is a wuss and likes to yak, and I know my intensity has declined since I started working w/ her. I will kick her ass today and if she can't hang she's gone, lol.

Thanks Nat



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Do I have time...need 6 minutes?

First...Leah....I want you to know....that I'm here to "Enhance" your life.....not make it more difficult....do you know that?


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

I know I appreciate what you do Andrew.

K...hurry, lol



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
Standing BB Press

Seated Single Arm press on ball

Lever Shrug

EZ curl Upright Row

Cable Laterals, drop sets

Prone lateral on ball

DB Lateral

??
1a,b,c Standing Press, Smith Press, Swiss Ball press (Arnold's optional....can sub a machine press for Smith)

2a,b,c Lean-Away laterals, cable laterals, ball laterals

3a,b,c Our infamous rear triset....one arm cable on a bench, lying, prone


4a,b,c Upright EZ row, DB shrug, lever shrug

optional

5a,b,c DB front raise....one or wo arm cable.....fixed bar from lap on an incline bench


3 sets each, NO RI between Exercises.......120 sec between trisets

BTW....I will be doing this tomorrow...

DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Oh....and I appreci8 you too...HAVE A GR8 DAY!

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Yeah...I don't have time for that...I don't even have time to write it down, or to get explanation on some of them ....sorry.

Gotta go.



Posted by: w8lifter

It's thursday...have a good day



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Fuck...it's THURSDAY! ..........

Thanks....

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

I couldn't do your workout sorry...and I couldn't do the reps you wanted for calves either.

In the morning I did calves, just to kill time:

6 sets standing calf, started at 175 and repped out and moved the pin up one each set, reps about 12-15, 30 sec RI

3 sets seated calf, 45/12-15 x 3...60 sec RI

Standing unilateral, no w8, 20...couldn't even get to 50 w/o the weight


Afternoon

Standing BB Press 55/10, 65/7, 65/6...120 RI

Seated Single Arm press on ball 25/8, 25/8, 20/8, 20/8.....no rest

My retard arm held me back

Lever Shrug, w8 per side 45/15, 55/12, 65/12....0 RI
EZ curl Upright Row 50/9, 50/8 x 2....120 RI

Cable Laterals, drop sets 15/5 + 10/6, 15/5 + 10/8, 15/5 + 10/8....90 RI

Prone lateral on ball 5/8 x 4....90 RI

DB Lateral 10/8 + 7.5/3 + 5/6, 10/6 + 7.5/4 + 5/8, 10/6 + 7.5/5 + 5/10....120 RI


abs

Superset
Double crunch, 10lb in hands, 5 lbs in feet....15, 12, 10
Swiss ball twisting crunch, 15, 12, 13....no rest

Oblique crunch 25/12 x 3....60 RI

water 3 litres



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Which arm it the retard again BTW?


Looks like a good W/O, calves and abs too!

Hope the GALA went well, back later to say GN


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

My left

I'm pooped, lol...it went well, but I'm glad it's over



Posted by: w8lifter

So I was reading the posing thread....do you think it would be beneficial if I grabbed one of the BB at work and went through posing w/ them?

Doing arms tomorrow



Posted by: w8lifter

Oh....and pics tomorrow



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
So I was reading the posing thread....do you think it would be beneficial if I grabbed one of the BB at work and went through posing w/ them?

Doing arms tomorrow
Depends where you grab him/her? Yes...most likely

Arms now or in the morning (I have about 20-25 minutes)...and why no rest day? Tell me when you plan to reat please?

Pics?

Water?


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

I will rest on saturday

We can do arms tomorrow, I have the morning off

Water is only at about 3.5 litres. I kinda ate at the gala....nothing too bad....stuck w/ the veggies wraps in tortillia or rice or something and only had a couple...but I did have one chocolate dipped strawberry ....and I had carbs today so I probably won't look that good

Andrew....I'm sending you a dictionary



Posted by: w8lifter

How was your day?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

don't...I h8 those :nonono:


DP





Posted by: w8lifter

hate what?





Posted by: Dr. Pain

Dictionaries....LOL

My day was long and tiring...and your''s?



Posted by: w8lifter

Same

Then you need an editor



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Yes......you're pre approved!


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

I already knew that



Posted by: Dr. Pain

So....I was thinking...you set a good example for the Cutters...and I'll keep everyone in line!

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

I do or I should? lol....I certainly don't now



Posted by: w8lifter

I'm hungry! Do you want me to post my meals?



Posted by: w8lifter

I guess you're not turning visibility on?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Not today, at least I think not.....lol...

Start again tomorrow.......


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

It's not that bad, lol....just not the plan you gave me



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Arms or not?

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

8 am

2 coffee
2 tbsp cream
4 oz chicken
1 tbsp peanut butter

12:30

1.5 srving protein
1 tbsp flax

3

1/3 cup oats
1.25 srving protein
1 tbsp peanut butter

6

tuna
2 tsp flax
apple

7:30

just snacking at the gala...veggie wraps and stuff

11

chicken probably



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Please don't tell me that..I feel worthless as your coach......

Well you shouldn't...we need to compromise....cause when I can't possibly stick to your plan I feel like I'm disappointing you ...I know I am, and this is what my problem has been lately.



Posted by: w8lifter

arms in the morning?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Can we clean all this please

and thank you...I'm doing my best for you...

arms? or in the morning...I was supose to go 20 minutes ago?




DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

What did you wear tonight?

I mean what does a PT wear to a PT GALA? Dress Sweats?

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

I said arms in the morning twice!

I actually had to go out and buy dressy pants



Posted by: w8lifter

LMFAO! That's what i wore



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Leah...it doesn't disapoint me if you try.....the way you said "we need to compromise" makes me think that you're not going to try



Posted by: w8lifter

No...I told you I am/will try...I still want to compete! But I need to know that I .........nevermind, I don't know, I will do it.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

We will change on Monday..early....no "Penalty Days"......just 'perfection'...K?

I heard you.....aim for FAME!

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

k



Posted by: Dr. Pain

k or K or K

I have to go.......



Posted by: w8lifter

K



Posted by: Dr. Pain

You need to know that you won't "kill" yourself doing it?


D



Posted by: w8lifter

That if I try, and it would kill me that it would be ok to adjust it.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

You/we won't! Now fucking smile and know that it will work out!


GNL


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

K....GNA



Posted by: w8lifter

I can't believe I have the morning off



Posted by: w8lifter

I have a funny story about arms that I'll tell ya tomorrow



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
That if I try, and it would kill me that it would be ok to adjust it.
No...that gives you an out.....

We...together will make adjustments.....it works better that way!


I won't let it kill you if you truely are trying.....trust me!

Leah...you know the whole process works better with quantitive feedback.....skinfolds, BW's, pics....it'a alot easier to adjust when you know what your adjusting for???????????

Right now..your hunger and BW suggest everything is on track....if you can just control yourself....you know what small devi8tions do!

Picutres with a tiny water drop and just enough carbs to show the detail we need/needed to see are imp



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
I have a funny story about arms that I'll tell ya tomorrow
looking forward to it!

GNL again :P



Posted by: w8lifter

Ok



Posted by: w8lifter

GN



Posted by: w8lifter

I have posted pics for you

Didn't take my BW cause I didn't wanna wake rob up, but I imagine it's the same...which irritates me GGGGGGGRRRRRRRr



Posted by: Dr. Pain

GML...

Check it when you can, we need to associ8 a w8, with the pictures....

Tell you in minutes!

DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

...and remember, you have been getting stronger....WHAT DOES THAT REQUIRE? So w8 staying the same most likely means that your comp moved in the right direction...also, this is January.....remember the SLB lecture!

DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Here or there for the critique?

..



Posted by: w8lifter

Here's okay.....I think lol

I'll check it now ..and GM



Posted by: w8lifter

123...so I must be holding...keep that in mind in your critique



Posted by: w8lifter

We have to do arms before you leave for the day



Posted by: w8lifter

I hope you can see some improvement in my physique after that bulk...cause I can't...except for my abs, they have definitely changed, but the rest of me looks the same



Posted by: w8lifter

K...you're taking too long I gotta get in the shower...BRB



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
123...so I must be holding...keep that in mind in your critique
Exactly...that was the first comment....no way to tell BF%, the water balance is entirely screwed

Ok, where to start.......

Overal thickness (sorry about that word), density, build....."much improved".......exactly what we want.......I see a lot of new LBM.


Legs are 'Perfection" even holding, would have like to seen more calf detail...HAMS are way up , much more balance..I like.

Back, g8 as always, thicker...upper traps are not where we want them....we will prioritize thers...also need to bring in more tri, on the rear relaxed...just posing wise

Speaking of rears.....much better than last year.....less outer thigh fat and under glute fat, top hip also much leaner

This will be less of a problem this year

Arms...still some asymetry.....varies from pose to pose, so hard to tell, We'll just keep on with this....

The side chest was the most impressive for improvement...esp the chest and shoulder, would like to see the other 'side' too


The one main problem I see......is the torso........I think in our effort to bring in more and more detailed abs....we have cre8d some 'unwanted' thickness...and lost some taper and waistline. I know exactly how to proceed, so don't worry.....serratus has lost some definition also, but too early to tell

Awesome Leah......don't worry

look at them yourself for imbalances...you'll see what I mean that it varies from pose to pose...... I think you have arrived.....size wise.."Time to Scuplt"

*Very Impressed*


DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
We have to do arms before you leave for the day
K....


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

That's what I was thinking about the thickness...I think my lower back has added a shitload of muscle I never had before...I mean I can flex it and feel the muscle...I don't like that, it makes me look thick.

About my ass...I think it may just be knowing how to pose w/ it now, lol...cause I am no where near the size that I even started at last year

I can't tell a difference in my hams at all!

I think I need to do some serious rowing and ease up on the lats pulls a bit too.

K...I gotta go get ready, won't be back till 9 probably...can you leave me an arm workout? I'll argue about it when I get back....er, I mean discuss it

Please add hercules curls and single arm cables....:Please????:


I still have to tell you my funny story



Posted by: Dr. Pain

OK....quick Comment

You have made the transition from Physique/Model to BB...EXACTLY as I/we expected, with hard work and gr8 genes

I can see why this look bothers you......Leah...IT IS OFF SEASON... Women BB's wish they could look or start a cut where you are......Know...I mean fucking KNOW........that this is only TEMPORARY....don't lose sight of the GOAL!

You look awesome......

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Okay? LOL BBS



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
That's what I was thinking about the thickness...I think my lower back has added a shitload of muscle I never had before...I mean I can flex it and feel the muscle...I don't like that, it makes me look thick.

About my ass...I think it may just be knowing how to pose w/ it now, lol...cause I am no where near the size that I even started at last year

I can't tell a difference in my hams at all!

I think I need to do some serious rowing and ease up on the lats pulls a bit too.

K...I gotta go get ready, won't be back till 9 probably...can you leave me an arm workout? I'll argue about it when I get back....er, I mean discuss it

Please add hercules curls and single arm cables....:Please????:


I still have to tell you my funny story
K...reread your critique......I know where to go...


BRB too...will work on arms as I eat....


DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Forgot to mention the Side tri.....I was worried about your tris until I saw that...we need to work on bringing them out in other poses

DP



Posted by: w8lifter

K...I trust you



Posted by: Dr. Pain

PLEASE W/U ?

1a Cambered or V-bar pushdowns 12, 10, 8, 6
1b HEAVY BB or EZ standing curls 10, 8, 7, 6

all No RI and then 120 sec...........

2a Any kind of over-head movement your shoulder will let you do.....prefer french Presses/Skull crushers 10, 8, 8
2b one arm DB preacher over the back of a high incline 8, 7, 6

3a One arm rope pushdown, accentu8ed contraction w/thumb pushed way back 12, 10 , 8
3b One arm cable across body 10, 9, 8

4a I know you h8 these, but Please tri...err try (I gave you everything else you like)....One arm cable kickback, knee on bench.....6 overhand, 6 underhand (same set), then 5/5, then 4/4
4b Hercules curls But, 3 single drops....


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Pain
PLEASE W/U ?

1a Cambered or V-bar pushdowns 12, 10, 8, 6
1b HEAVY BB or EZ standing curls 10, 8, 7, 6

I have to use a rope or else it kills my left elbow

all No RI and then 120 sec...........

2a Any kind of over-head movement your shoulder will let you do.....prefer french Presses 10, 8, 8
2b one arm DB preacher over the back of a high incline 8, 7, 6

seated or lying...I can do those...just not on an incline

3a One arm rope pushdown, accentu8ed contraction w/thumb pushed way back 12, 10 , 8
3b One arm cable across body 10, 9, 8

Reverse grip????

4a I know you h8 these, but Please tri...err try (I gave you everything else you like)....One arm cable kickback, knee on bench.....6 overhand, 6 underhand (same set), then 5/5, then 4/4

I really hate those...I don't know how to do them at all!


4b Hercules curls But, 3 single drops....

Thank you

DP




Posted by: w8lifter

K...funny story...then I gotta go

Last time I did arms w/ mel...we finished everything and she complained that it wasn't enough...said she wanted to do another exercise.....so I suggested she just do another set of our last exercise (hercules curls) ....so I tell her to do as many as she can and when she fails I tell her 2 more, she squeezes out two more and I say 3 more...keep going! Three times I did that and she was almost balling, lmao...."leah, they're ripping" as she curls, practically crying....it was hilarious, LMFAO....people thought I was nuts but she loved it the next day



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
PLEASE W/U ?

1a Cambered or V-bar pushdowns 12, 10, 8, 6
1b HEAVY BB or EZ standing curls 10, 8, 7, 6

I have to use a rope or else it kills my left elbow

Prefer a bar....most can do V-bar (not the lat v-bar, and not have Pain.....but whatever you can do

all No RI and then 120 sec...........

2a Any kind of over-head movement your shoulder will let you do.....prefer french Presses 10, 8, 8
2b one arm DB preacher over the back of a high incline 8, 7, 6

seated or lying...I can do those...just not on an incline

Let's go lying!


3a One arm rope pushdown, accentu8ed contraction w/thumb pushed way back 12, 10 , 8
3b One arm cable across body 10, 9, 8

Reverse grip????

No, reg grip

4a I know you h8 these, but Please tri...err try (I gave you everything else you like)....One arm cable kickback, knee on bench.....6 overhand, 6 underhand (same set), then 5/5, then 4/4

I really hate those...I don't know how to do them at all!

Like a kickback..elbow stays a few inches above the body...and NEVER MOVES, just a hinge......come down or start with a 90-100 degree bend in your elbow and the hyperextend to contract.....one plate will be hard...two plates....IMPRESSIVE


4b Hercules curls But, 3 single drops....

Thank you

So welcome

DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
K...funny story...then I gotta go

Last time I did arms w/ mel...we finished everything and she complained that it wasn't enough...said she wanted to do another exercise.....so I suggested she just do another set of our last exercise (hercules curls) ....so I tell her to do as many as she can and when she fails I tell her 2 more, she squeezes out two more and I say 3 more...keep going! Three times I did that and she was almost balling, lmao...."leah, they're ripping" as she curls, practically crying....it was hilarious, LMFAO....people thought I was nuts but she loved it the next day
Awww...Mini Pain...You

I like......exactly like me.......LMAO!

I make them take a few deep breathes.....start w/groups of 3, then groups of 2...then bush the biggest button you know they have and tell them to REP OUT!



Posted by: w8lifter

can I do it w/o a bench?



Posted by: w8lifter

where the hell is my thumb if it's regular grip?

can any of those pics be posted?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
K...I trust you
Glad, thank you!

I had something to tell you, remind me l8ter (actually, I don't think I'll forget)

DP

SYS.....I'm back at 11:30 YT, off early today maybe..we need to write......

Have a gr8 W/O

DP



Posted by: w8lifter




shit...I forgot...why do we say yes, lol. K

K...SYS



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
where the hell is my thumb if it's regular grip?

can any of those pics be posted?
Yes...later on those please

With a rope...a neutal grip is a hammer grip...thumb up......but at contraction, thumb is all the way down ( towards the floor) and then pushed back even more, extreme hyperextension of the elbow...


DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

huh?

Have to go

SYS!



Posted by: w8lifter

Yeah, I can use a handle for single arm....just can't use the straight bar for double and the v bar is a lost fuqqing cause.



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Pain
huh?

Have to go

SYS!
writing



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Originally posted by Dr. Pain
PLEASE W/U ?

2b one arm DB preacher over the back of a high incline 8, 7, 6


DP

warm up how? why?

I DESPISE that exercise!



Posted by: Dr. Pain

LOL @ the writing

W/U because you have sore elbow(s).....those stretches I gave you for your client will help tendonitis
or epicondylitis.......

That exercise will help with the lower Bi connection, and both the brachialis and the bicep.....so we gave you a mass builder, a shaper...and 2 peaking exercise....so just fucking do it!


DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

OK ...here is the math, ....w/o knowing your BF......I figure each % or BF on you right now is 1 1/4 pounds.

To be FAME ready.....I see the need to drop about 4% or 5 pounds of BF.....

With out increasing cardio too much too soon.....we have 14 WEEKS.......and you'll most likely give up BF to LBM at a 80/20...to 75/25 ratio...IF YOU LISTEN, IF YOU ARE CONSISTANT...........IF YOU etc...etc..etc..

That puts you at.....116...to 116.5 before dropping water.........112-113 on stage...

To proceed further (July)....you're looking at another 2 % BF to lose........so my point is......don't worry about your BW, or CARDIO at this point!


DP



Posted by: tigress

Where's the pics?!



Posted by: w8lifter

lmfao ....I'm still w8ing for his approval on those

K, um...I don't want to have to drop water at FAME

I don't like 116...I want 120 at 10%

*sigh*....going back to work...I've been home a whole 3 seconds.



Posted by: tigress

Gimme, gimme, gimme! I would so be posting them if I were you. I don't even want to take any of me right now. Guess I could post a face one.



Posted by: w8lifter

OMG...I just got a marriage proposal from my "true love" :sad:



Posted by: w8lifter

I am never working arms again



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
lmfao ....I'm still w8ing for his approval on those

K, um...I don't want to have to drop water at FAME

I don't like 116...I want 120 at 10%

*sigh*....going back to work...I've been home a whole 3 seconds.
Here.....I finished the article in my spare time (busy as fuck today)

http://content.health.msn.com/conten.../66794.htm....

you WANT 120??.... Aren't we fickled...LOL You know you are gonna have to "drop" water...there are no two ways about it....I even bet you do for your upcoming shoots

So we did that Shoulder W/O today........very very diificult. So difficult that my partners became every irrit8ed and STOPED Whining and complaining....it was that hard.......

....Unfortunately for me....I thrive on Pain......so had I not interpreted the agony from their faces........it wouldn't have been any fun ain


OK.....I'll bite...WhoTF is your one true love?


DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
I am never working arms again
Why is that?........you'll be able to type soon


DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Pics:

First pic, cropped navel down
Second pic, cropped at strap up
Side Chest, cropped hip up....optional

Only if you want.......I thought the officail position was not to post pics...?


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

rope pressdown 60/12, 70/10, 80/6, 75/6
ez curls 40/12, 40/10, 40/8, 40/8....90 RI

skull crushers 40/10, 40/8, 40/6
DB over bench 15/8, 15/8, 15/6.....90 RI

giving up at this point, hate arms, DESPISE this exercise, totally not pushing myself, just get it over w/.

one arm pressdown 30/6, 25/8, 25/8
one arm curl 30/8, 25/10, 25/10....90 RI

DB Kickbacks 10/8, 7.5/10, 7.5/8...RI

I tried the cables and I couldn't do it right, didn't know how you meant to do the overhand either????

Hercules curls 30/12 + 20/10, 30/8 + 20/5, 30/6 + 20/4....90 RI

Last two exercises weren't superset.

The one arm press, one arm curl and hercules curls were the ONLY thing that made that a decent workout.

WTF do I have more muscle but am weaker than ever



Posted by: w8lifter

nat wanted to see the pics, I don't care if they're posted or not, I'd rather not.

that link doesn't go anywhere.

why would I have to drop water 4 months from now? will I not be lean enough?



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Pain



OK.....I'll bite...WhoTF is your one true love?


DP
apparently some brazilian man who wants to marry w/ me and kiss my muscles



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter


WTF do I have more muscle but am weaker than ever
Geez...do you ever need an ass kicking!

Not a bad W/O.....it's not about strength...and so much of your 'Waekness" is "in your head"......be calm w.that...know that i am right....lease:

The grip was simply to only two ways you could hold a "handle", palm up, or palm down...I wanted 1/2 of each!

Still the focus of the W/O was SS....and you did well for the most part!

Calm the fuck down....learn, absorb, teach....


DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
nat wanted to see the pics, I don't care if they're posted or not, I'd rather not.

that link doesn't go anywhere.

why would I have to drop water 4 months from now? will I not be lean enough?




Posted by: Dr. Pain

Then PM her and one other person who is begging me...LOL

You wull be lean in 14 weeks...not 4 months....but a person can be lean and "smooth"........or lean and toned/scuplted...you choose


DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter
apparently some brazilian man who wants to marry w/ me and kiss my muscles
E-mail?


DP



Posted by: w8lifter

Yes it is about strength, it doesn't look right when someone w/ arms like mine is curling 15 fucking pounds, lol....it certainly doesn't make me feel good.

I hate working arms



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Lift the fucking couch......I have told you!

DP





Posted by: Dr. Pain

I have a story about that too.......in a minute



Posted by: w8lifter

Yeah...I want to be lean & smooth.





Posted by: w8lifter

K....I'm starving...going to make food...BRB




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