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I have my workout routines down, but I am leery on my nutrition. I will admit the holidays and the terrible “bulking” excuse, plus the water retention from the EQ, has made my BW sky rocket. I have been trying to follow something of a Dr. Pain nature.(Since he seems to know what he is doing and lends a helping hand to us newbies. The transformation of Leslie2196 was incredible and W8lifter looks terrific) I used carb cycling for my show- more carbs on w/o days and less on non w/o days. I have just recently started to eat normal again. I plan to do the ECA stack along with a little Winny to assist with my cutting efforts. This board does not seem to be anabolic, but I figured I must state all the facts. I loved the gains and strength I have made with EQ and the Winstrol helped me with my competition and cutting efforts.






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Originally posted by Britney Britney is better than Christina
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Originally posted by kuso Hi there, welcome aboard ![]() Don`t want to flame with my first post..but I have recently seen some pix that leave me disagreeing with you
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Originally posted by Britney Chest 37” Waist 27” Hips 37” Thigh 22.5” Calf 15 ¼” Bicep (flexed) 12 ¾” |
I will say I have NOT been eatting protein bars regualrly- so my stats are not a reflection of that. I KNOW which foods contributed to the "bulk"
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Originally posted by Britney BW 164 lbs last night ....................down THREE lbs after ONE week?
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Quite possible. One can easily loose up to 7-10 pounds in the first week. Of course most of it is water. I have no idea, though how the winny effects your body. Since you can loose 2 pounds of fat per week, I can speculate that 3 pounds with winny is indeed possible. Are you taking caliper measurements? |



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Guess I will have to work harder and wait a lil longer. Just as well as I have been reading some purdy scary things about women and Winstrol.
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Originally posted by Britney Sheesh, no feedback ![]() I can't be doing everything right. |
....you're eating protein bars, sugared peanut butter, Sweet corn Tamolita...not sure what they are but if you're damning them you shouldn't be eating them, taking e/c/a and doing cardio 

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Originally posted by w8lifter Wow...I just had to check to make sure that was me writing that and not DP
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Originally posted by w8lifter Well....no, but since you asked ....you're eating protein bars, sugared peanut butter, Sweet corn Tamolita...not sure what they are but if you're damning them you shouldn't be eating them, taking e/c/a and doing cardio ![]() Now...I'd excuse the cardio since it was HIT ( Fix it! ![]() p.s....it appears that you know what to do, but just aren't doing it ....hence the "fix it"
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I think I DO know what to do, just need a lil ass kicking a direction.
Nearly kicked my ass.
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Originally posted by Britney E/C/A stack Ir ead was BEST after coming off- because your body is catabolic.....Is there truth to that? |

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Originally posted by w8lifter You're excused, lol....I don't know...that's DP's area, not mine ![]() And um...anytime!
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Ignore Kuso, most of us do. |
Don`t think you got away with that one

Originally posted by kuso Don`t think you got away with that one
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Originally posted by Britney Also picked up a client that wants to train
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Originally posted by Britney ***IGNORING KUSO*****
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Originally posted by Britney ***IGNORING KUSO*****
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Originally posted by Twin Peak My work is done here. Can I add some discussion to your use of EC. I know nothing about EQ or illicit anabolic steroids, but EC is frequently used (and recommended) post PH/PS cycle. The reason is: - post cycle cals should be high to keep mass and strength gains - EC, in addition to increasing metabolism, has a nutrient partitioning effect, thus shuttling more cals and protein into the muscles rather than fat cells I think there was another reason, but I can't remember that now. I am not sure this would hold true for an EQ cycle, but I would think, logically speaking, that the reasoning should apply. Are you taking anything post cycle, legal or otherwise? |

) EQ was my very first cycle and I kept it extremely light (Half of a 1/2cc, peaking at a 1/2cc) as I was worried about my reaction, being a lady and all. I had planned to use the Winny/ EC combo post cycle, but looks like Winny will not be accessible right now, so I am stuck with just the EC. I am just worried that using the stack now will leave me at a standstill later in my cut. I hope to compete this Spring, but I don’t know how much cutting I can do. I do not want to rush, I want to keep most of my gains


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I dropped it down to about 2100-2200 cals give or take starting last week with CLEAN food. I suppose my cals are still high enough for me coming off, as i could not get cut on this many cals. I have about 220g P 90g F and 100-120g C/day. Not sure of these totals.
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Keeping the gains is critical. Why not hold off a few weeks on the cut, use the EC as post cycle therapy and then cut it after a few weeks, when the cut begins. I have heard of people with good results using Avant's topical FL7 when keeping cals through the roof post cycle. Its used then to stave off fat gain. |
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Originally posted by Britney Hmm, Avant's topical FL7, never heard of it. Do you know a site I can check it out? |

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Originally posted by kuso www.1fast400.com
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain Tappering off the EQ would have made sense.....I don't want to suggest the protocol however! DP |
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Originally posted by Princess what is EQ???? |

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Originally posted by Twin Peak Injectible or oral? |
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Originally posted by Britney Thanks for the link Kuso ![]() |
...she`s no longer ignoring me
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain Tappering off the EQ would have made sense.....I don't want to suggest the protocol however! DP |
Why not?? You ARE a mod in the Anabolic Steroids forum.............
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Originally posted by kuso TP ...she`s no longer ignoring me
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain Britney....at .25 ml and then .5 ml....even if it was "double strength"...(old EQ is 50 mg/ml)......you're not gonna have a problem....trust me..... You'll lose the same amount of size....with or w/o the E/C/A......however probably retain 80-90% of the strength increase ![]() ....so a litlle EQ....don't even worry ![]() DP |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak P, you know its illegal right? And, see above, its injected. Not a moral statement Brit, just I don't think P realizes this. |
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Originally posted by Britney No offense taken TP
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Originally posted by Twin Peak We should get along just fine then! Hey, you never answered my questions about where in NJ you worked/lived. |
How about yourself? You are familiar with Northern NJ? I am in the Paramus area.
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Originally posted by Britney DP, my EQ is 200mg Strength PER CC. I am told it is THE STRONGEST. The only sides I have had were breakouts on my back and my hair is everywhere, though I show no visible signs of balding. To be honest, my hair was the main reason I didnt do more. Should I worry now? |
during the last 3weeks of the cycle and the 2 post cycle to keep the anabolism going through, though the idea of going afterwards isn't too shabby
. I've done both, but usually go w/ the previous over the former. |
Originally posted by Princess And Where is injected to?? |
, bis
not a gr8 idea w/ EQ IMO, tris
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Originally posted by cornfed Question, you've never stated your dosage/wk... unless I'm mistaken. Well that wasn't exactly a ?, but are you going @ 200/wk? And my personal preference is to use "fat-burners" during the last 3weeks of the cycle and the 2 post cycle to keep the anabolism going through, though the idea of going afterwards isn't too shabby . I've done both, but usually go w/ the previous over the former. |
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Originally posted by cornfed Ummmm.... AAS are not to be taken lightly or on a whim. There are very strong legal implications to their use and most of all, one must educate themselves 1st. |
There are many risks and sides associated with steroids, especially for the ladies. Not to mention it is an illegal substance. Hope this helps
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Originally posted by Princess thank you cornfed!! I'm to chicken to try it anyway. But your right, if I ever did, I would want to know EVERYTHING About it!! Is there a website or something, a book?? anything?? Where I can learn more w/o bugging you guys? |
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Originally posted by Britney When I said 200mg per CC, that is the ratio of Equipoise per full CC. Thanks for your thoughts! |
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Originally posted by cornfed I realize that, I was just wondrin' what dose you were taking. OK, I thought so ![]() and TP, When you said that 3lbs a week is possible w/ winny, AAS do not contribute directly to fat loss. Rather, the increase in LBM changes body composition, and "cutting" drugs are just generally those w/ less pronounce water retention or those that affect density more strongly than others: T propionate Fina (trenbolone acetate) winstrol (stanozol) Primo EQ (eguipoise ~ boldenone undicyclate) anavar (oxandrolone) Stenox (flourimethylstenolone) Exactly, some are also prefered for use while cutting due to their vascularity effects too. EQ is known to stimulate the appetite. and boy can I vouch for that, so cutting with EQ can be difficult, Most people throw in ephedrine to curb their appetite. I deciede to use it to my advantage for the bulk
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Originally posted by cornfed another site that's awesome is testosterones.com as for carbs, (dp 'n w8 may not agree) I say to keep them all in fibrous greens, w/ the exception of post WO and then 13-17g sugars and at tops 30-35g total carbs post WO |
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Originally posted by kuso Um Why not?? You ARE a mod in the Anabolic Steroids forum.............
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Originally posted by Britney Also Anabolicreview.com.... That seems rather LOW carbs. Are you incorporating what I have known to be called a "carb up"? Thanks! |

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Originally posted by Twin Peak P, I am ROTFLMAO at the thought of you in Smoothie King, ordering an Almond Mocha and asking them to throw in some EQ and Winny! F-ing hilarious!!! |

Had to change and make a new shake, and of course there had to be an accident on the way to work......rant over

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Originally posted by Britney Hey TP- That was pretty funny about Princess in Smoothie King. Don't worry Princess, you are a doll
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Originally posted by Twin Peak If you knew here well, you'd think that was even funnier. But from this comment, sounds like you have picked up on her personality already! ("you are a doll "
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A TOTAL sweetie.
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Originally posted by Britney Yep, I have lurked in her journal A TOTAL sweetie.
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Ah, a lurker! Your kind can be very dangerous, having more knowledge than would otherwise appear. |

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Originally posted by Britney Hey TP- That was pretty funny about Princess in Smoothie King. Don't worry Princess, you are a doll
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You guys are sooo sweet!!!!

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Originally posted by Twin Peak If you knew here well, you'd think that was even funnier. But from this comment, sounds like you have picked up on her personality already! ("you are a doll "
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Whooo, I was away for an hour.... Corn -- I never said that. Please reread. I KNOW jack about illegal AAS and even less about EQ or Winny. I said that you can lose 2 pounds of fat per week w/o any "cutting aids". So it is perhaps possible to lose 3 per week with....never said can. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak P, I am ROTFLMAO at the thought of you in Smoothie King, ordering an Almond Mocha and asking them to throw in some EQ and Winny! F-ing hilarious!!! |
I would have loved to have seen that
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Originally posted by Princess Or probably let my blond bootie slideeeeee ... |

LMAO!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by cornfed Oh, I wasn't meaning to assume anything... just wanting to clarify so that everyone would avoid the trap of possibly interpereting that notion. No offence meant in the least Just 1 of my many soapboxes
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Originally posted by Twin Peak P.S. This is an interesting journal. Not only is it interesting in and of itself, but it has attracted a different collection of members than probably any other journal. Interesting. |

They provided coffee
and fat laden muffins and croissants. I work for a GYM, you would think they’d be more health conscience
I brought a Pro42 bar in case of an emergency, 4 hrs after Meal one called for bar consumption
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Originally posted by Britney So what are we going to debate today?
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Originally posted by Britney Interesting indeed ![]() They provided coffee and fat laden muffins and croissants. I work for a GYM, you would think they’d be more health conscience
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain Will check you're program more carefully tonigh!
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It sure is quiet in this interesting journal today
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Originally posted by Twin Peak So stir some shit up! |
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Originally posted by w8lifter My gym does the same stupid thing...are they all dense or something?
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Originally posted by Twin Peak THE STACK! NOT THE STACK! OMG!!!! LOL Stop doing cardio though dammit! OK, you talked me out of it. I am too damned tired anyway |
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Originally posted by lina Nope that's callled good business sense! That's how they stay in business! ![]() Wake up Britney!
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Originally posted by dg806 I can't believe no one has pornalized this thread yet!!!!!!
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Lemon + Sugar= YUMMY
I had to egt this out of my system as I am now focusing in on my goals for my second show. There were two I had in mind, one 05/17 (Suburban BB/NJ State) and the other 07/19/03 (Physique 2003). BUT I just called for info and they CHANGED the 05/17 contest date to April 26th!
I don’t think I can be ready by 4/26-that’s only TWELVE weeks away
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Originally posted by Britney Not in a pornal mood
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Originally posted by kuso Anything we can do about that?
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Originally posted by Britney I AM READY ![]() I want to do them ALL
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Originally posted by w8lifter That's the spirit! P.S....funny how when ya bulk you pick up some bad habits you wouldn't do otherwise. I did it too. |

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Originally posted by w8lifter Maybe this thread doesn't need to be pornalized people
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Originally posted by Britney ![]() Hey W8, I was thinking of following your leg program you did today tonight, but I didn't see any hammie exercises. Should I add em in? I have been doing heavy lifts/sets of 10/8/6/4 reps the past two months, its time to start higher reps fo rmy legs, dont you think?
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Originally posted by w8lifter Sure....you could try 12, 10, 8, 8 for a change ![]() Keep your legs high on the press and push through your heels. Single leg lunge and sumo's hit your glutes and hammies just fine Trust me, lol.
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Originally posted by Princess Hiya Britney
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Originally posted by Britney K Just tried a search for SUMO description- can't find it in your journal....happen to have it handy?
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain The "One Legged" Smith Lunges (back leg up on a bench) are in her journal (back a ways)...Ah, yes I have done those- killerand there is an excellent Hammie Triset in mine (recent).....just combine and Go Crazy! Going now...So which Contest(s)??? ![]() I hope 05/10/03-but I don't think I can be ready or 07/19 and one in the fall. I am also curious about Musclemania Ms. Bikini America.....does that involve fitness routines?DP |
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Originally posted by w8lifter I've never even heard of that...but isn't Musclemania a natural show? |
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Originally posted by Britney Yup. http://www.dcbodybuilding.com/2002show/figure.htm DRUG TESTING PROCEDURES The overall winners of each class will be drug tested by means of urinalysis, which will be provided following the awards presentation. Anyone found using a controlled bodybuilding drug including drug-like enhancers will lose their title. Banned substances will include anabolic steroids, prescription diuretics, clenbuterol. If a contestant's drug test turns up positive, there will be no re-test. |

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Originally posted by w8lifter Maybe this thread doesn't need to be pornalized people
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Jeezeu, a guy can`t even be nice around here with being accused of ill intentions
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain I seriously doubt they will test......it's always threatened..seldom done! ![]() How do you do a 'routine' in a Bikini? (pornal opening, sorry)DP |
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Originally posted by kuso HEY! She looked sad and I though she needed cheering up! Jeezeu, a guy can`t even be nice around here with being accused of ill intentions
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain I'm not suggesting it.....at the NPC level...it is a given.....Musclemania in the states is a rung higher, like the USA's or Jr National NPC's. You have seen my posts before about 'Natural" not being Natural (there is one here somewhere)....I'm sorry.....just reporting what I know ![]() DP |
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Originally posted by w8lifter And you! Take a hint! The whole freaking lot of ya's! Any pornalizing of this thread and I will kick some fuqqing ass! |
I haven't even started yet
So pleasxe don't put me in that catagory of people.
next to the fact they tested- as in "Fuq, guess I can't enter"
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Originally posted by w8lifter Britney....don't misunderstand me....I have no problem w/ people using. I do have a problem w/ people who have used entering natural shows to cheat their way to a win. I am not saying it doesn't happen. But it doesn't mean everyone needs to contribute to the problem. |
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Originally posted by Britney DRUG TESTING PROCEDURES The overall winners of each class will be drug tested by means of urinalysis, which will be provided following the awards presentation. Anyone found using a controlled bodybuilding drug including drug-like enhancers will lose their title. Banned substances will include anabolic steroids, prescription diuretics, clenbuterol. If a contestant's drug test turns up positive, there will be no re-test. |
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Originally posted by Britney I hear you W8, but I GUARANTEE you have stood next to users already. Its not fair, but its reality. But I think we are arguing over NOTHING because I don’t recall saying I planned on entering So pleasxe don't put me in that catagory of people.In fact I put a next to the fact they tested- as in "Fuq, guess I can't enter"
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And I don't have to keep my mouth shut when I know it's happening.
lol I didn't realize I felt so strongly about this issue.
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Leah, I agree with this in GENERAL. But you must recognize that there are natural shows, and then there are "natural" shows. It doesn't take much to find out which is which. If you are a true natural athlete (not even sure what that means these days) and you compete in a so-called "natural" show where everyone/most-everone is not natural, you must understand this. Now if it truly is a natural show, and one or two people enter who are one, then s/he is cheating. There is a difference. |

I almost didn’t make the gym. I was so aggravated- that I went shopping instead
But that backfored since trying on pants post bulk, will make you want to go to the gym
, so I ended up working out with a trainer, who is also my gym friend. He KICKED my ASS!! I thought of DP
He kept making me do MORE reps after I said I was done- the burn and the lightheadness was awesome. My eye was twitching too
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Originally posted by Britney Shit, I tend to use ALOT of smileys
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Originally posted by Twin Peak P.S. I really do love this journal. |
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Originally posted by Britney Me too! LOL
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Then we offset each other. Today any better? Why do you have to "go to the gym" if you work in a gym? |

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Originally posted by Britney At least you studied.........
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Today any better? Why do you have to "go to the gym" if you work in a gym? |
For me it's the atmosphere, equipment, and type of people who go there to workout. 
If I fail, I can always float along until the Physique 2003 on July 19th (NQ
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Originally posted by Britney I have decided to try and cut for the 05/10/03 show. Its exactly 14 weeks away, so I am not sure how feasible that is If I fail, I can always float along until the Physique 2003 on July 19th (NQ ), and if I succeed I can do BOTH![]() Think its possible??
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, but I am leery of the fact of FOURTEEN WEEKS. Last show I was less BW and needed almost 4 MONTHS to prepare. Which was barely enough time. This time I need to drop about 20lbs
I am not sure how and when to cram in cardio and cut carbs ect. On such a small time frame
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Originally posted by w8lifter Good Point....maybe you should do pics for DP? |
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Originally posted by Dr. Pain I'd like to meet a "Perfect Dieter"....although I have met a :Perfect Angel"....I hope it's a slightly different degree of "Perfection!" DP |
