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Posted by: I Are Baboon

Just wanted some opinions on this:

I am at a point with my flat db presses that I struggle to get started with my reps. I can get into position to begin my set, but I need help from a spotter on my first rep. Once I get that first rep up, I can pump out another 7 or 8 reps on my own (well, I usually need the spotter for my last rep or two). I can control the weights when I am done with my set, so they don't crash to the floor.

My question is, should I use less weight so I can do that first rep without any help, or am I fine with what I'm doing? Without help from a spotter, I would not be able to get started on my set.



Posted by: Blieb

I'm not an expert, but I think it's ok from what you're saying.

It sounds like you're probably avoiding delt strain by getting the spot.

When I do db presses ... I sit with the weights on my knees, then lean back on my back, keeping the weights against my chest.

At this point I can either pull them out to the side to start (which I prefer) ... or go straight up with them together, then start.

I'm only puttin' up like 80lbs/side, so it's not so bad either way.

I'm a big fan of whatever is most comfortable.



Posted by: Scotty the Body

I would keep using the same weight and just keep building up.

If you weren't able to get 7-8 reps, I'd say cut the weight down but you'll be loosing out if you do. IMO.

The first and last rep are always the hardest.



Posted by: Rusty

That has happend to me before IAB........Just keep workin on it. eventually you get to a point to where you can do that first rep (at that weight) on your own. What weight is it?



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Quote:
Originally posted by Blieb
It sounds like you're probably avoiding delt strain by getting the spot.

When I do db presses ... I sit with the weights on my knees, then lean back on my back, keeping the weights against my chest.
I get the spot so I can push myself to try another rep or two. Without a spotter, I would not be as aggressive with the weight.

I do the same thing when I get started (weight on the knees, lean back).

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Originally posted by Scotty the Body
I would keep using the same weight and just keep building up.

What do you mean by that? Stay with the same weight and keep adding reps? I usually do two sets of the heaviest weight, then two more with a little lighter weight. Once I can do two sets of 8 to 10, I increase the weight. I did 85lb dumbells this morning, but I might try 90's next time.



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Keep building up in weight (like your doing)

Like IPMC said, you get use to it and you won't need the spotter after a while.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Quote:
Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Like IPMC said, you get use to it and you won't need the spotter after a while.
When I don't need the spotter, it's time to add weight.

It's cool to see yourself improve. I remember "back in the day" when I could only do 40lb dumbells. Hey, everyone's gotta start somewhere.



Posted by: Freeman

That's happening to me right now too IAB...need that spotter on the first rep, it's a pain in da 'arse!



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Thats the only thing I DON"T like about DB bench, its a little harder to get set up for that first rep when you start using max weight.
Personally, I got 110's for 6 on my last chest day, thats as high as the DB's go at my gym so I may go back to BB.



Posted by: iSlaNdEr bOy

is flat db presses better than flat bb presses?



Posted by: Prince

well, a db press will recruit more synergistic muscles, but I would not say one is superior over the other.



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Because like prince said, DB use more synergistic muscles, there is more of a chance they will fail before your chest does so BB is probably the superior for CHEST development over DB but I personally prefer DB cause they don't seem to effect my shoulders they way BB does.



Posted by: Twin Peak

IAB, I always need a spotter to start that first rep when doing my heaviest sets with dumbbells. Course I only use 'em on the incline, but no difference. Don't go lighter if you are getting that many just get a spotter and don't count the first rep. Its not the one that will build muscle anyway.



Posted by: Mudge

On an incline I kick each dumbell up with a knee, on the flat bench I get them close to my chest, hold them in place and just roll back onto the bench.



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally posted by Mudge
On an incline I kick each dumbell up with a knee, on the flat bench I get them close to my chest, hold them in place and just roll back onto the bench.
ditto Mudge



Posted by: Freeman

Yeah, but the hard part is getting them up on that first one...not so much getting them to the starting position.



Posted by: firestorm

I prefer DB over barbell because you get a better range of motion. I think the reason your "possibly" having problems with the 1st rep is because your lacking strength at the lower part. It sounds like you get into a rythm with your reps after your 1st rep and may not be going all the way down. The DB's should be on the outer part of your chest and the bottom of the DB should below the pec muscle not parallel with your chest as it is on a straight bar. bring it lower. Next time you do DB bench try pausing at the bottom to be sure your going that full distance. If you can't do it that means your not using the entire range of motion on the excercise and defeating the purpose of using Dumbells.



Posted by: Mudge

With heavy DBs the first rep is tough yeah, I think thats just part of the deal



Posted by: firestorm

I think the biggest problem is form. If you can get 6 or 8 then you should be getting the 1st one. If you not able to do it then you need to work on the lower portion of the lift. make sure your going the full range on every rep.



Posted by: Rissole

Quote:
Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Personally, I got 110's for 6 on my last chest day, thats as high as the DB's go at my gym so I may go back to BB.
Hey Scotty did the same last Monday Heavy isn't it :o
Our gym's db only go to 92.4 *cheap pricks*
Bought my own handles, made an adapter to take the bb plates...... LOAD THE SUCKER UP



Posted by: Mudge

For me, adjusting my shoulders/shoulder blades is the only thing making #1 a tad more difficult.

Does this sound familiar IAB? Or is simply starting without a negative just throwing you...



Posted by: Rissole

Oh and sorry but i press the first one by myself



Posted by: Freeman

Quote:
Originally posted by peetrips
Oh and sorry but i press the first one by myself
Well aren't you the greatest thing to happen since sliced bread! jk



Posted by: Freeman

first rep is a little bastard, but I can usually manage to get it up. I think if you could have someone hand you the DBs at the top, then bring them down for your 1st rep, maybe that would help?



Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by peetrips
Hey Scotty did the same last Monday Heavy isn't it :o
Our gym's db only go to 92.4 *cheap pricks*
Bought my own handles, made an adapter to take the bb plates...... LOAD THE SUCKER UP
My dumbbells go up to 200s so I am not worried about maxing them out anytime soon.



Posted by: Mudge

If someone hands me the dumbell its almost more awkward for me, how do you hold yourself on the bench when you have over 100 pounds hanging on one side? Strain city.



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Thats true Mudge, they'd have to hand you both at the same time.
I think you'd be better off getting use to doing it youself.



Posted by: Rissole

Quote:
Originally posted by freeman1504
Well aren't you the greatest thing to happen since sliced bread! jk
Ummmmm YES



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Quote:
Originally posted by firestorm
I prefer DB over barbell because you get a better range of motion. I think the reason your "possibly" having problems with the 1st rep is because your lacking strength at the lower part. It sounds like you get into a rythm with your reps after your 1st rep and may not be going all the way down. The DB's should be on the outer part of your chest and the bottom of the DB should below the pec muscle not parallel with your chest as it is on a straight bar. bring it lower. Next time you do DB bench try pausing at the bottom to be sure your going that full distance. If you can't do it that means your not using the entire range of motion on the excercise and defeating the purpose of using Dumbells.
I've read that going down that low is bad for the rotator cuff, no? I bring the weight down to the point where the dumbells just about touch the chest.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Quote:
Originally posted by Mudge
For me, adjusting my shoulders/shoulder blades is the only thing making #1 a tad more difficult.

Does this sound familiar IAB? Or is simply starting without a negative just throwing you...
I can get the first rep up because I can not balance the weight properly. The combination of lying back, getting into position, and moving the weight makes it too difficult. Once I get the weight up in the air, I am good to go.



Posted by: Freeman

IAB, just noticed your "location"...I love it!



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Quote:
Originally posted by freeman1504
IAB, just noticed your "location"...I love it!





Posted by: Freeman

I should change my board name from freeman1504 to "Mulva"



Posted by: Rob_NC

IAB~ take a look at these Power Hooks, http://www.body-builders.com/month.htm

I have a thread about these and have a few guys in our gym wanting our gym owner to buy a couple pairs. I think they would help you.



Posted by: firestorm

Quote:
Originally posted by I Are Baboon
I've read that going down that low is bad for the rotator cuff, no? I bring the weight down to the point where the dumbells just about touch the chest.
Baboon I can't argue with that because I don't know who wrote the article. I can only say from personnel experience over 20 years worth,, that is the one thing I've never suffered from (rotator cuff injury) so I feel that unless you use more weight then what you can handle you should be ok. I personnally can't see how going 1/2 inch more can be harmful to the cuffs since you can natural movement.

Now when you take behind the neck presses,, I'd totaly agree with that. It is not a natural movement to bring the bar behind the neck. the natural movement that the arms want to take is straight down to the sides. when you have to pull your hands "back" behind your head even without a bar in your hand you can feel stress in the shoulders. You don't have any discomfort bringing your hands down below parallel on db presses right? It's like any other excercise to me that I feel can be safely done as long as you don't use a weight heavier then you can safely handle.
This is all my opinion fellas!!!



Posted by: firestorm

Quote:
Originally posted by Mudge
If someone hands me the dumbell its almost more awkward for me, how do you hold yourself on the bench when you have over 100 pounds hanging on one side? Strain city.
Mudge, I train alone so having someone hand me DBs is not an option but when I used to train with partners, I'd pick one up and place it on my upper thigh. I'd have my partner place the other on my other upper thigh in a vertical manner so it was ready to go.
To everyone,, Don't ever let a Single Heavy DB hang to your side. Not even when you've completed your set. After your last rep, raise your knees and swing back up to a seated position and place the DB down in front of you at the same time. NOT one at a time to the sides of the bench. This is very very bad for the lower spine!!!! Always remember to pick them up together if training alone and put them down together at all times.
Regards,
Doctor Fire PH.D; MD; DDS, RSVP



Posted by: Wolfpack22

Stick with barbell presses unless your shoulders are hurting you. You aren't going to get the strength gains from dumbell presses. You can get big doing them, but the barbell press is for strength and size. Most people who just do dumbbell presses, they do them because they suck on the bench press.



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Stick with barbell presses unless your shoulders are hurting you. You aren't going to get the strength gains from dumbell presses. You can get big doing them, but the barbell press is for strength and size. Most people who just do dumbbell presses, they do them because they suck on the bench press.
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Most people who just do dumbbell presses, they do them because they suck on the bench press.
really, thats an interesting statement.



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Most people who just do dumbbell presses, they do them because they suck on the bench press.

I'm not fabulous, but I dont think 345 qualifies as suck.



Posted by: Freeman

Ok, so I do suck, but that's just cuz I started lifting within the past year.
Now, look at the pics of Tank, gopro, etc...athey all use DBs. Tell me if they "suck"!



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Stick with barbell presses unless your shoulders are hurting you. You aren't going to get the strength gains from dumbell presses. You can get big doing them, but the barbell press is for strength and size. Most people who just do dumbbell presses, they do them because they suck on the bench press.
Its been a while since I read a load of crap like that,

Did you just start lifting cause if thats what you really think about DB, you really don't know much.
Have you ever done HEAVY DB bench?



Posted by: Mudge

I would also argue that benches do not have to hurt the shoulders, I learned.



Posted by: Rissole

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
You aren't going to get the strength gains from dumbell presses. You can get big doing them, but the barbell press is for strength and size. Most people who just do dumbbell presses, they do them because they suck on the bench press.
I have only just started to do really good DB presses and my strength has been goin through the roof
Sorry Wolfpack but thats a good one



Posted by: Mudge

Yeah, we should tell Ronnie Coleman and GP to cut out those dumbell presses.



Posted by: Wolfpack22

Nobody said to cut them out. But where did the majority of your current strength and chest size come from? Not dumbbell presses I bet. I knew my post would get some attention. You guys keep doing your dumbbell presses. That way you can be huge, and everyone wonder why you can't bench 400. They are ok as a secondary chest exercise, but to strictly do them alone is silly. There's a difference between bodybuilding and weightlifting. I take it most of you are bodybuilding. Oh yeah, and tell Ronnie Coleman to send me some roids ok? That way I can cheat my body!



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Nobody said to cut them out. But where did the majority of your current strength and chest size come from? Not dumbbell presses I bet. I knew my post would get some attention. You guys keep doing your dumbbell presses. That way you can be huge, and everyone wonder why you can't bench 400. They are ok as a secondary chest exercise, but to strictly do them alone is silly. There's a difference between bodybuilding and weightlifting. I take it most of you are bodybuilding. Oh yeah, and tell Ronnie Coleman to send me some roids ok? That way I can cheat my body!
i benched my 500 lbs naturally, with the help of dumbell presses as well as barbell presses. you have alot to learn. first and foremost Respect.



Posted by: Freeman

Quote:
Originally posted by Tank316
i benched my 500 lbs naturally, with the help of dumbell presses as well as barbell presses. you have alot to learn. first and foremost Respect.

Can I get an AMEN to that?!



Posted by: Freeman

Again, no respect. your attitude in your response clearly shows a lack of respect. We all get along great here at IM. We have our disagreements, but we always show respect. If you think that by us responding to your post is an attack, then you've got other problems...namely, insecurity problems. You can be criticized without being personally attacked, so I suggest you learn how to take it like a man otherwise life is gona be tough for you. THAT was not a personal attack, let's see if you can reply in a similar fashion



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
You probably weigh 275 to 300 pds too. Respect for what? Nobody has been disrepected except me. I gave my opinion and got attacked.
I never saw anyone attack you, yet you are attacking others. I'm going to guess your young, and need to relax.

I made excellent gains doing dumbell work for almost all my major excersizes. Without knowing your stats, and seeing proof, I question how you came to the conclusion that dumbells are a waste of time for strength. I am moving back to barbells for the most part, but dumbells were very good to me and I will alway look upon them with fondness.



Posted by: Wolfpack22

I don't think it's worth my time to reply. Some people here have their on scripture they go by and when someone has a different idea they can't accept it. I never said to stop doing dumbbell presses. I said the bench press was better, and that's my opinion. Now if you guys can honestly say if you had to give up dumbbells or the barbell bench press, which one would you choose? I'm picking barbell. I'm not arguing anymore. It's Saturday night and there are bleats in heat.



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Nobody said to cut them out. But where did the majority of your current strength and chest size come from? Not dumbbell presses I bet
I will agree that BB is better for strength gains but I believe DB are just as good if not better for overall size which is what most of us are after (not a powerlifting site)
I knew my post would get some attention. You guys keep doing your dumbbell presses. That way you can be huge, and everyone wonder why you can't bench 400.
Personally, I wouldn't care if I can't bench 400 as long as I'm huge.
They are ok as a secondary chest exercise, but to strictly do them alone is silly.
I don't think anyone here said to do them alone, a good combo of DB, BB and flies are needed for the best overall development. )
There's a difference between bodybuilding and weightlifting. I take it most of you are bodybuilding. Oh yeah, and tell Ronnie Coleman to send me some roids ok? That way I can cheat my body!




Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Some people here have their on scripture they go by and when someone has a different idea they can't accept it. I never said to stop doing dumbbell presses. I said the bench press was better, and that's my opinion. Now if you guys can honestly say if you had to give up dumbbells or the barbell bench press, which one would you choose? I'm picking barbell.

Yeah, that sounds like you. However, I dont think anyone is here to waste time, but to share ideas and opinions.

Quote:
It's Friday night and there are bleats in heat.
You sound like quite the sophisticated gentleman, I also noticed that it is however Saturday.



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
I said the bench press was better, and that's my opinion. Now if you guys can honestly say if you had to give up dumbbells or the barbell bench press, which one would you choose? I'm picking barbell. I'm not arguing anymore. It's Friday night and there are bleats in heat.
Nothing wrong with your opinion, but your statement that people that only do DB must suck at BB bench was what got people excited.

My opinion is, DB are better for overall size development than BB and if I had to pick one it would be DB, not because I suck at BB but because I've seen better SIZE development from them.
If I was into Powerlifting or strength, then BB would be my main focus, not DB.



Posted by: Mudge

Dumbells allow for independant movement AND more range of motion, I like them, but I also like barbell presses.



Posted by: Wolfpack22

Ok, it is Saturday. You got me. And I apologize for causing a stir here. Sorry if anyone was offended. I'll take this lesson into consideration next time I think my post might invoke someone.



Posted by: Mudge

I was a big fan of dumbells for awhile and didn't like barbells because I didn't know how to barbell press without bothering my shoulders. We all have our preferences and beliefs as to what works best for us, but its hard to really place those ideas on someone else who prefers something else.

When I was bigger on the dumbell useage, others were quite the opposite and were into barbells. I know GP is a fan of dumbells as well so I can't believe that they will get you big, but not strong. When I get bigger I get stronger, and vice versa, I haven't gotten one but not the other, yet anyway.

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You will find spelling errors in my own posts, as well as grammatical, I have yet to see anyone that speaks or types in perfect english.



Posted by: Freeman

I suppose you could get a big head but have a smaller penis, right??

Not directed at you Mudge, just in general.



Posted by: Mudge

I have more brain cells than penile length, that is true I'm happy with that though.



Posted by: Freeman

good call....



Posted by: Mudge

I guess you could call me, Schlong N. Otsolong.



Posted by: Freeman



You rock Mudge!



Posted by: Mudge

Thanks, today is post whore day I guess



Posted by: Freeman

Yeah, for real. Well, there ain't jack shit to do tonight for some reason. No one to go out on the town with, so I'm stuck here online



Posted by: Wolfpack22

Some people like to kiss other people's butts. I don't. I'm going to be who I am, and some may not like my attitude. I'm not a conformist. Find that definiton too, if you need to.



Posted by: Freeman

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Some people like to kiss other people's butts. I don't. I'm going to be who I am, and some may not like my attitude. I'm not a conformist. Find that definiton too, if you need to.
Who are you accusing of asskissing? And where would ass kissing get you on a message board?

Oh, and we know what a "conformist" is, thank you very much.



Posted by: Wolfpack22

I didn't accuse anyone, but I guess guilty dogs do bark first.



Posted by: Freeman

NO, I was just curious. If you take compliments of ass-kissing, then we are all big time asskissers around here. With your attitude, you won't be getting any "compliments".

And you didn't answer my question. What good would asskissing on a message board do you?



Posted by: Wolfpack22

Compliments? Are you trying to get a date? Why do you have a picture of your face as an avatar? Are we comparing faces on this board or bodies?



Posted by: Mudge

Then one might ask why you have no avatar, but honestly, who cares? You seem to want to find fault with everyone and thier beliefs, you are the one attacking people here and what they do, nobody is jumping on you. Post after post you are either implying people are kissing ass, or calling us out for our avatars, give me a break dude and grow up.

You can dish it out but you can't take it? You bitched someone out for not knowing how to speak english, I didn't correct you on a spelling error but I let you know of a mistake in word useage, big deal.



Posted by: Wolfpack22

Grow up? A nut kicking avatar?



Posted by: Pepper

Quote:
Originally posted by Mudge
Then one might ask why you have no avatar, but honestly, who cares? You seem to want to find fault with everyone and thier beliefs, you are the one attacking people here and what they do, nobody is jumping on you. Post after post you are either implying people are kissing ass, or calling us out for our avatars, give me a break dude and grow up.

You can dish it out but you can't take it? You bitched someone out for not knowing how to speak english, I didn't correct you on a spelling error but I let you know of a mistake in word useage, big deal.
He'll go away when Clemson beats the Pack tomorrow



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Grow up? A nut kicking avatar?
All in jest my good friend You wont find me getting into boxing matches or that kind of thing in real life.



Posted by: Wolfpack22

Clemson will not beat the Pack. Even though NCSU may play without Josh Powell. By the way, don't forget 38-6. Clemson looked hot against Texas Tech in that bowl game! Tammy Bowden is walking a thin line.



Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
I don't think it's worth my time to reply. Some people here have their on scripture they go by and when someone has a different idea they can't accept it. I never said to stop doing dumbbell presses. I said the bench press was better, and that's my opinion. Now if you guys can honestly say if you had to give up dumbbells or the barbell bench press, which one would you choose? I'm picking barbell. I'm not arguing anymore. It's Saturday night and there are bleats in heat.
You are entitled to your opinion, and so is everyone else. People are entitled to disagree with you, and you're entitled to disagree with them

If this did not happen we would not have a discussion board!

People disagree with me all of the time, I don't give a shit!



Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally posted by Scotty the Body
My opinion is, DB are better for overall size development than BB and if I had to pick one it would be DB, not because I suck at BB but because I've seen better SIZE development from them.
If I was into Powerlifting or strength, then BB would be my main focus, not DB.
See, here is a good example!

I disagree with STB on this, I prefer barbells over dumbbells, and I would pick barbells as "mass movements" (not just for strength, but size) over dumbbells.



hey Scotty





Posted by: Mudge

Ladies and Gentlemen, the one and only, Shit Disturber™!



Posted by: Freeman

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Compliments? Are you trying to get a date? Why do you have a picture of your face as an avatar? Are we comparing faces on this board or bodies?
Yes, I am trying to get a date. I've been hounding Mudge for months now. He's a hottie and I want his man piece. I have an avatar with my face on it because it gives everyone else on this board boners. Since you aren't getting a bone-dog from my avatar, you must have a problem of some sort.



Posted by: Mudge

Hot man chowder, coming up! ho ho ho...



Posted by: firestorm

Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Nobody said to cut them out. But where did the majority of your current strength and chest size come from? Not dumbbell presses I bet. I knew my post would get some attention. You guys keep doing your dumbbell presses. That way you can be huge, and everyone wonder why you can't bench 400. They are ok as a secondary chest exercise, but to strictly do them alone is silly. There's a difference between bodybuilding and weightlifting. I take it most of you are bodybuilding. Oh yeah, and tell Ronnie Coleman to send me some roids ok? That way I can cheat my body!
1st off,, who used the word "strictly" or "only". I believe that 90% of the people in here will agree that you should change your "bodybuilding" routine consistently. I use Barbell and DB's. I also know for a 'FACT" that when you come to a "sticking" point of Flat benches or Inclines for that matter, Db's are an excellent way to work through it. This I know from personnel experience.
On the other side of the coin, I know guys that can bench over 350 but can't do 130lb. DB benches!!!!!
DB's get you seriously strong and assist greatly with increasing strength for Barbell work.



Posted by: Freeman

AMEN TO THAT!



Posted by: firestorm

I've just completed reading ALL the posts on here. There is no question in my mind that FNG Wolfpack is a troublemaker. He has on mulitiple occasions attempted to stir people up. It's true he is not a conformist but he is a troublemaker. My advice to everyone is to disregard his ignorance and take whatever he says with a grain of salt. He seriously belongs over at MM.com. (actually, he probably was already banned from their). Peace all
Fire.



Posted by: firestorm

Oh and by the way,, Freeman, I like your pic. Truely a man without insecurities. Humm I've checked the members pics and what do you know? No pics of the FNG!!!!



Posted by: Freeman

Quote:
Originally posted by firestorm
Oh and by the way,, Freeman, I like your pic. Truely a man without insecurities. Humm I've checked the members pics and what do you know? No pics of the FNG!!!!
Thanks my man!



Posted by: firestorm





Posted by: Tank316

Wolfie, i benched that weighing 245. just in case you wanted to know.



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Quote:
Originally posted by Prince
See, here is a good example!

I disagree with STB on this, I prefer barbells over dumbbells, and I would pick barbells as "mass movements" (not just for strength, but size) over dumbbells.



hey Scotty

Maybe I just SUCK at Barbell



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Quote:
Originally posted by firestorm
Oh and by the way,, Freeman, I like your pic. Truly a man without insecurities.
Thats for sure, especially with a face like that



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Maybe I just SUCK at Barbell
thats alright Scotty, i feel the love in this thread as well.



Posted by: Freeman

Quote:
Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Thats for sure, especially with a face like that

Hey now! Damnit!

And I thought it wasn't that bad!



Posted by: Scotty the Body

sorry, couldn't resist.



Posted by: Twin Peak

BTW, I have used great restraint, thusfar, in this thread.

Plus, ya'll seemed to be handling things nicely!



Posted by: firestorm

yo Scotty Freeman is a cutie huu? He would make an awesome prison bitch!!! He be my woMAN. hahahahaha



Posted by: Freeman

damn....wait till I get big, then I'll be the bitch-maker!



Posted by: firestorm

hahahahahahaha



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally posted by firestorm
yo Scotty Freeman is a cutie huu? He would make an awesome prison bitch!!! He be my woMAN. hahahahaha
Have I missed something or has IM morphed into an episode of "OZ?"



Posted by: Scotty the Body

Quote:
Originally posted by firestorm
yo Scotty Freeman is a cutie huu? He would make an awesome prison bitch!!! He be my woMAN. hahahahaha
Well, his ears do stick out a bit, maybe he's done time before.......... J/K Freeman



Posted by: Freeman

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Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Well, his ears do stick out a bit, maybe he's done time before.......... J/K Freeman
Hey, that's just the way the picture turned out...I swear!



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Posted by: firestorm

HAHAHAHAHA YOU guys crack me up



Posted by: askjoe

You need to work on the lower portion of your bench press. Try doing isometrics along with partials to strengthen this area of your lift. After time you'll be able to explode out the of the bottom portion of you dumbbell press.

Askjoe



Posted by: firestorm

Good advice Joe.



Posted by: firestorm

Oh and welcome to IM.com Joe!!!



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