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Posted by: Timeless

I am new to the site do forgive me if ask the wrong questions .
I am 40 work out 5-6 days a week cardio and weights clean diet not perfect. I did steroids years ago and I am not interested in them . I am 235 want to lose fat without gaining weight . Metabolism is not what it us to be . Been reading about glen hgh t3 . Any suggestions on a cycle



Posted by: GreenOx

Welcome



Posted by: D-Lats

You want to lose fat without gaining weight lol! Do some reading around here first bro I dont think gh is the answer lol!!



Posted by: Timeless

I mean Lean muscle gain and cutting body fat basically a cutting cycle do not want to add mass used anadrol a couple of times was great to build mass but looking for the opposite . Not completely opposed to steroids but I am older with a high end job can't offered to have the roid rages .



Posted by: SloppyJ

The roid rages....classic.



Posted by: the_predator

Quote Originally Posted by D-Latsky View Post
You want to lose fat without gaining weight lol! Do some reading around here first bro I dont think gh is the answer lol!!
x2



Posted by: GreenOx

HGH will cut the fat at the same time increasing lean muscle mass, you might want to look into an HGH Frag. they do not negatively impact blood glucose levels, or does cell proliferation occur, like Human Growth Hormone.



Posted by: gamma

I had a blood sugar problems with hgh frag 176-191 , for what ever reason 3 days in it made my sugar down way low .FYI



Posted by: Timeless

Thanks for the last two post with actual info . I don't understand why people in forums feel the need to post supplying no info just negative . I thought o forum was to help others . I was reading about frag seem good but very little info on it. What is the protocol on it can u use by itself. Any feedback on frag would be great



Posted by: gamma

There has more negative reviews on the frag than good as far as actually working here on IMF but 250mcg am 250mcg pm is a good start. Watch ur glucose levels tho as this was my issue.



Posted by: bigdtrain

i would say if diet and training is intact you should get everything you need. however if you are still not satisfied, clen would be choice one. gh needs to be run long time.



Posted by: Timeless

Thanks for real answers



Posted by: Timeless

I am going to try hgh frag from extreme peptides good reviews does anyone have any experience with there product.



Posted by: D-Lats

Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
Thanks for the last two post with actual info . I don't understand why people in forums feel the need to post supplying no info just negative . I thought o forum was to help others . I was reading about frag seem good but very little info on it. What is the protocol on it can u use by itself. Any feedback on frag would be great
I'm just trying to prevent this shit from happening because somebody jumps into something they know fuck all about http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/op...l-anguish.html



Posted by: Timeless

Quote Originally Posted by D-Latsky View Post
I'm just trying to prevent this shit from happening because somebody jumps into something they know fuck all about http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/op...l-anguish.html
That's why I'm on the forum reading and asking questions . I don't understand your reply instead of sending bs y not send useful info.



Posted by: D-Lats

I did. You don't just jump on gh because you heard some guys liked it. You have no experience with hormones and you want to go to the strongest one? Do you know the risks? Do you know the sides? Do you know they don't do much without aas which you don't like because of the roid rages? I gave you good info you just don't want to hear it.



Posted by: Prize

D, once again you're my hero... Hey BTW, I'm doing 800mg test with 500mg mast... When can I look forward to having a little Roid Rage?? I've been uncomfortably mellow since I started this cycle!!! Hitman



Posted by: D-Lats

Quote Originally Posted by Prize View Post
D, once again you're my hero... Hey BTW, I'm doing 800mg test with 500mg mast... When can I look forward to having a little Roid Rage?? I've been uncomfortably mellow since I started this cycle!!! Hitman
Lol what's up HITMAN!!! roid rage is an excuse assholes use so they can be assholes lol! You are a mellow dude so I don't think it will happen brother. Tren makes me very edgy but I think it's due to insomnia. How's your gains coming along? Mast prop?



Posted by: Prize

Quote Originally Posted by D-Latsky View Post
Lol what's up HITMAN!!! roid rage is an excuse assholes use so they can be assholes lol! You are a mellow dude so I don't think it will happen brother. Tren makes me very edgy but I think it's due to insomnia. How's your gains coming along? Mast prop?

Up 12 lbs in almost 3 weeks...I primed pretty hard before starting this cycle and my weight went up like crazy. Strength is just starting to really climb. I'm having a fucking ball!!! I'll keep you updated as things go...I'm planning on blasting and cruising for a while to see how things work out. Wish me luck Bro!!! I LOVE MAST enth!!



Posted by: Timeless

[QUOTE=D-Latsky;2562801]I did. You don't just jump on gh because you heard some guys liked it. You have no experience with hormones and you want to go to the strongest one? Do you know the risks? Do you know the sides? Do you know they don't do much without aas which you don't like because of the roid rages? I gave you good info you just don't want to hear it.[/QUOTE

Definition of information -
knowledge given or received
concerning particular facts
You gave no info . I understand perfectly i know many people on gh you don't need to be a muscle head to get benefits from it . Sides are less then aas . Just trying to get other perspectives some people give real answers with real knowledge



Posted by: SRX

Bro your over 40? Jump on the HGH thats what its for. Many many guys over 40 pin 2+ius a day. HGH has many benefits for us older guys.

Im over 40, not a BB. Enjoy life being fit.



Posted by: D-Lats

[QUOTE=Timeless;2562977]
Quote Originally Posted by D-Latsky View Post
I did. You don't just jump on gh because you heard some guys liked it. You have no experience with hormones and you want to go to the strongest one? Do you know the risks? Do you know the sides? Do you know they don't do much without aas which you don't like because of the roid rages? I gave you good info you just don't want to hear it.[/QUOTE

Definition of information -
knowledge given or received
concerning particular facts
You gave no info . I understand perfectly i know many people on gh you don't need to be a muscle head to get benefits from it . Sides are less then aas . Just trying to get other perspectives some people give real answers with real knowledge
Whatever dude I honestly could care less what you do.



Posted by: Timeless

Quote Originally Posted by SRX View Post
Bro your over 40? Jump on the HGH thats what its for. Many many guys over 40 pin 2+ius a day. HGH has many benefits for us older guys.

Im over 40, not a BB. Enjoy life being fit.
Thanks . That's what I'm looking for I don't want to abuse it . Looks like anywhere from 2-4 iu a day is sufficient for feeling good . Do you have any legit sources don't mind the cost just don't want to be ripped off



Posted by: SRX

Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
Thanks . That's what I'm looking for I don't want to abuse it . Looks like anywhere from 2-4 iu a day is sufficient for feeling good . Do you have any legit sources don't mind the cost just don't want to be ripped off

Yes sir us older guy who are not looking to be freaks but want to stay lean and healthy i like the 2-4iu e/d.



Posted by: TonyMack

Just curious, have you tested your hormone levels? Specifically T and IGF1. To me, it looks like you prefer to hear echoes in lieu of real solutions.

Btw, asking for a source will get this thread shut down real quick



Posted by: Timeless

Quote Originally Posted by TonyMack View Post
Just curious, have you tested your hormone levels? Specifically T and IGF1. To me, it looks like you prefer to hear echoes in lieu of real solutions.

Btw, asking for a source will get this thread shut down real quick
To me, it looks like you prefer to hear echoes in lieu of real solutions. What are you talking about you don't have to od to get results



Posted by: TonyMack

Seriously, what is your testosterone level? IGF1? Body fat percent? Have you optimized your cholesterol and triglycerides? Is your training in line with your goals?

Who said anything about od? Why would you think I would suggest anything close to that. All I'm saying is you don't even have a starting point and you want us to suggest a compound?!? WTF

For someone with a self-described high end job; you seem to be displaying a lack of intelligence.



Posted by: D-Lats

Quote Originally Posted by TonyMack View Post
Seriously, what is your testosterone level? IGF1? Body fat percent? Have you optimized your cholesterol and triglycerides? Is your training in line with your goals?

Who said anything about od? Why would you think I would suggest anything close to that. All I'm saying is you don't even have a starting point and you want us to suggest a compound?!? WTF

For someone with a self-described high end job; you seem to be displaying a lack of intelligence.
Thank you! This guy asks for advice gets it from someone who can help and disregards it for the answer he wants from a faceless stranger on the Internet! High end job like what a manager at taco bell? You can't fix stupid.



Posted by: TonyMack

Quote Originally Posted by D-Latsky View Post
Thank you! This guy asks for advice gets it from someone who can help and disregards it for the answer he wants from a faceless stranger on the Internet! High end job like what a manager at taco bell? You can't fix stupid.
Lol. What pisses me off is these types are the ones who buy shit online and fuck themselves up with it; then the media gets a hold of it and demonizes the use of these compounds. Part of me wants to say fuck it, do what you want, but that's bad for all of us. Remember the high school kid in Texas that killed himself during PCT. They fucking passed laws and shit based on that dumb-ass kid. 10 years later and they're still talking about what happened to some dumb-ass. Wish I could go back in time and help him, but I can't even talk sense into the idiots of today!

The truth is if people would just do some homework and get advice from qualified people, they'd get the results they're after AND keep their health.



Posted by: D-Lats

Quote Originally Posted by TonyMack View Post
Lol. What pisses me off is these types are the ones who buy shit online and fuck themselves up with it; then the media gets a hold of it and demonizes the use of these compounds. Part of me wants to say fuck it, do what you want, but that's bad for all of us. Remember the high school kid in Texas that killed himself during PCT. They fucking passed laws and shit based on that dumb-ass kid. 10 years later and they're still talking about what happened to some dumb-ass. Wish I could go back in time and help him, but I can't even talk sense into the idiots of today!

The truth is if people would just do some homework and get advice from qualified people, they'd get the results they're after AND keep their health.
Amen brother. Selective hearing is bad for all of us.



Posted by: GreenOx

Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
Thanks . That's what I'm looking for I don't want to abuse it . Looks like anywhere from 2-4 iu a day is sufficient for feeling good . Do you have any legit sources don't mind the cost just don't want to be ripped off
Timeless - are you an fucking idiot asking someone for their source. As suggested above you go get your hormone levels checked by a Dr. if they are low..you dont need a fucking source..they give you a scrip. if they are normal do some research first. there is more than enough info on HGH in this forum and a tremendous amount of knowledgeable people. There is a whole fucking page of side effects that go with HGH I dont care how old you are of how much you plan to take..you will get some of the side effects maybe not now but over the years you will get them. I researched HGH at least a year before I went to get tested..too bad for me my level was still borderline and no scrip so I spent months tracking down HGH it's been 6 years since I started. 3-6 months on the rest of the year off. I am 50, I feel great, have a shitload of energy all the positives of HGH use..I also have sore ankles, pain in my wrists, a pinch in my hip and a fucking hot pain running down my left arm - all side of HGH, when im off cycle they diminish but never fully go away... do you know what HGH actually does to your body? learn to be a little more resourceful before you start asking questions.



Posted by: Timeless

Quote Originally Posted by GreenOx View Post
Timeless - are you an fucking idiot asking someone for their source. As suggested above you go get your hormone levels checked by a Dr. if they are low..you dont need a fucking source..they give you a scrip. if they are normal do some research first. there is more than enough info on HGH in this forum and a tremendous amount of knowledgeable people. There is a whole fucking page of side effects that go with HGH I dont care how old you are of how much you plan to take..you will get some of the side effects maybe not now but over the years you will get them. I researched HGH at least a year before I went to get tested..too bad for me my level was still borderline and no scrip so I spent months tracking down HGH it's been 6 years since I started. 3-6 months on the rest of the year off. I am 50, I feel great, have a shitload of energy all the positives of HGH use..I also have sore ankles, pain in my wrists, a pinch in my hip and a fucking hot pain running down my left arm - all side of HGH, when im off cycle they diminish but never fully go away... do you know what HGH actually does to your body? learn to be a little more resourceful before you start asking questions.
Fuck you these forums suck your a bunch of assholes don't ask about sources but there advertised everywhere never seen so many self absorbed idiots have been to doctors read about all for 8 months been on steroids years ago eveyone want to give there "empty knowledge" without answering one questions .



Posted by: TonyMack

Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
Fuck you these forums suck your a bunch of assholes don't ask about sources but there advertised everywhere never seen so many self absorbed idiots have been to doctors read about all for 8 months been on steroids years ago eveyone want to give there "empty knowledge" without answering one questions .
I don't know what's more offensive; your attitude, or your grammar. Either way, you could eat C4 for all I care. Go fuck yourself.



Posted by: GreenOx

Relax Numb-nuts suggest you go back and read through your posts. you personally know people who use HGH and have spent 8 months reading up on it. instead of taking your "Gained Knowledge" and going forward you come here and ask complete strangers for advise, which you received, may not have been what you wanted to hear, the replies can only come from experience, I only use HGH and thats all I can comment on. Seems you have already done the research only thing left to do is find it , buy it, pin it.



Posted by: Timeless

Quote Originally Posted by TonyMack View Post
I don't know what's more offensive; your attitude, or your grammar. Either way, you could eat C4 for all I care. Go fuck yourself.
More assholes not one person with any info related to the question . You can't talk about sources why because they advertise on the site these forums are a bunch of over medicated muscle heads not for me enjoy your short life taking shit made in people basement asshole . I will stick with my doctor he was right the people on these forums are crazy rather spend a little more then use the shit product made in god knows where . I never knew there where so many idiots in this world dumb fucks !!!



Posted by: GreenOx

Timeless,
go to the top of the page, click "search" type in "HGH Frag" when you finish reading up and still have questions - ask them.



Posted by: AmM

Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
More assholes not one person with any info related to the question . You can't talk about sources why because they advertise on the site these forums are a bunch of over medicated muscle heads not for me enjoy your short life taking shit made in people basement asshole . I will stick with my doctor he was right the people on these forums are crazy rather spend a little more then use the shit product made in god knows where . I never knew there where so many idiots in this world dumb fucks !!!
WTF!



Posted by: SRX

Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
More assholes not one person with any info related to the question . You can't talk about sources why because they advertise on the site these forums are a bunch of over medicated muscle heads not for me enjoy your short life taking shit made in people basement asshole . I will stick with my doctor he was right the people on these forums are crazy rather spend a little more then use the shit product made in god knows where . I never knew there where so many idiots in this world dumb fucks !!!

Dont worrie Timeless, Do you think everone who posted went to a endo and there leavels checked? I think not but they will swear they did or swear by what someone wrote.

Only thing here is do some reasearch before diveing in. I myself did not reasearch AAS before takeing the plunge but had of year or so of reading on HGH before i jumped in. Everone is different some respond with low dose and others dont. So to say who right and whos wrong its all up to your body and how your body deals with it. What posted is there experances.



Posted by: Prize

Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
Fuck you these forums suck your a bunch of assholes don't ask about sources but there advertised everywhere never seen so many self absorbed idiots have been to doctors read about all for 8 months been on steroids years ago eveyone want to give there "empty knowledge" without answering one questions .
Sounds like a classic case of "Delayed onset Roid Rage" if you ask me...



Posted by: D-Lats

Quote Originally Posted by Prize View Post
Sounds like a classic case of "Delayed onset Roid Rage" if you ask me...
lol!!



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