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Congress to Ban Steroid Precursors (Prohormones) in Early 2003

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Posted by: Prince

Congress to Ban Steroid Precursors (Prohormones) in Early 2003

If you are a user of prohormone products, then this article should be of extreme interest to you. Even if you are not a user of prohormone products, but just a supplement consumer who wishes to maintain his/her freedom of access to health food products, then this article should still be of interest to you. read more...

Posted by: Mudge

Thanks to all the negative press, and people offing themselves with supplement use, it seemed inevitable.

Another right to choose down the tubes.

Posted by: Prince

I just mailed off my five letters to my representatives!

Posted by: Wolfpack22

All this will do is lead to more anabolic steroid users. Who will take their chances on illegal prohormones(if they are banned) over illegal steroids?

Posted by: Mudge

Prohormones are not directly steroids, but 1-Test and some others are steroids. The way they outlawed steroids in the early 90s, was to create a list of known steroids at that time, things like 1-test were apperantly in thier original form not terribly effective and just were not payed attention too. So since they didn't hit the lawbooks, someone brought them back from the dead, along with a few others.

Posted by: Mifody

those bastards.. thank god for the blackmarket

Posted by: Mudge

Drink and drive, but god forbid dont touch them roids.

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Drink and drive, but god forbid dont touch them roids.

yup, and if you want to become a female you can get estrogen no problem, then you can even have your penis & testicles cut off, and breast augmentation done....

BUT do not take anything that is anabolic!!!

then after you have successfully transformed yourself into a female, go smoke your fucking lungs out, and die of cancer, that is okay with our government too...and do not worry about the people around you, they don't mind inhaling your smoke.

BUT do not take anything that is anabolic!!!

and if you want, go have your face operated on about 50 times until your nose falls off, and you can make yourself look like a fucking freak *cough*Michael Jackson *cough*....

BUT do not take anything that is anabolic!!!

And if you're having trouble building up those pecs and even your glutes, go have some prosthetic implants put in your chest and ass because that is MUCH safer than using steroids to build the muscles.

BUT do not take anything that is anabolic!!!

Posted by: Prince

Click here to read updates on this issue!

Posted by: Prince

I just received my first reponse to one of the five letters that I sent off to Congress.

Posted by: Burner02

so..I cannot read that..type is too small...
what did it say?

Posted by: Prince

By the sounds of it once this legislation hits the Senate for a vote it will most likely pass.

What do you expect when the NFL (National Football League), NCAA (National Collegiate Athletic Association), USOC (United States Olympic Committee) and the USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency) are all supporting it.

The only positive thing he said was that he has been hearing from people, including those who manufacture, sell and actively use these kinds of supplements, who are concened that the legislation goes too far.

I am not saying to give up, we should all send in the letters!!!

which can be done here >> http://www.usfa.biz/form_letters/form_letter.php

Posted by: david

That is just too-too bad! DAMN! As everyone says, thank god for the black market!!!

ALBOB and BURNER! Take notice!!!!!

Posted by: Twin Peak

Bump.

Yes, send letters. This has vast impact beyond prohormones.

Posted by: Burner02

yeah...with all the actual problems that are out there...they are thinking of banning supps that help and are relatively harmless is taken correctly...

Posted by: david

Just a suggestion! But not neccessary! As long as you can live wt/ it forever!

Posted by: Burner02

they will find a way to sell the stuff afterwards..

Posted by: david

No, they won't and if they do it'll be SHIT!!!!!

Posted by: Prince

I just cleaned up this thread!

Please keep posts here relevant to the topic.

Thanks

Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
I just cleaned up this thread!

Please keep posts here relevant to the topic.

Thanks

Nice job.

I have heard nothing new lately to report. Anyone else?

Posted by: Prince

I have heard nothing new, and I still have only received the one letter in response to the five I sent out.

I go here for updates:
http://www.usfa.biz/modules.php?op=m...forum&f=1&sid=

Posted by: Twin Peak

Yes, that's the best place for public updates and Pat Arnold and Rick Collins and their crew keep it up to date.

I was referring, though, to any inside scoop.

You know Mike (1fast) is now the USFA Corporate Secretary?

Posted by: kuso

http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/258end.jsp

Posted by: raider6969

will hormones be banned in all of the united states?

Posted by: Prince

yes

Posted by: Mudge

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
And if you're having trouble building up those pecs and even your glutes, go have some prosthetic implants put in your chest and ass because that is MUCH safer than using steroids to build the muscles.

Dan Duchaines GF (hes no longer around of course) had calf implants and supposedly almost lost a leg from an infection from one of them.

Posted by: repoj

All should be happy to know that I have my 5 letters all ready to mail tomorrow. Oregon just had ONE muscle dude send % peices of my mind to washington, and I'll be sure to tell EVERBODY I know that cares to do the same.

Posted by: dobbie606

G'day All,
- Supplements:vitamins,minerals, herbs & steroids are gonna be banned or available in subtherapeutic doses!
''Date: July 09, 2003 05:13 PM
Author: Delores (deloreskuta@yahoo.com)
Subject: Bill S 722

A new bill affecting vitamin supplements has been introduced to the US Congrss and may soon be voted on by the Senate. It's purposes to give the FDA total power over supplements. It would give the FDA power to take any product off the market as "unsafe."

The bill is S.722. If you live in the US, please write ( a letter is best) to your two senators asking them to vote "no" to S.722. Please don't sit still and let your right to take vitamins and supplements disappear! ''

http://www.agora-inc.com/forums/Thre..._ID=13044&mc=6

''Date: July 10, 2003 08:24 AM
Author: Lance A Erley
Subject: Thanks Delores follow up

Although it won't make the headlines until the battle is already over, the supplement industry is under attack. If you use supplements, so are you. The threat is in the form of S. 722, a bill introduced in the United States Senate. If the bill is passed it will become the Trojan horse for changing the way ALL supplements are regulated (principally by treating them as drugs, rather than foods).

Folks, this issue is not really about supplements; it's about "Freedom of Choice"! It's about profit! Do you really think the federal government should regulate and control what you are allowed to eat? Do you really think supplements should require a doctor's prescription?

Help stop the insanity by visiting: http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm ,choose your state from the dropdown menu, get appropriate phone numbers and email addresses. Then, call fax, and/or email and ask your senators NOT to change the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) of 1994.

To make it easier for you, I've attached a sample letter you can complete (by filling in brackets), then cut, paste and send. Common, it will only take a few minutes of your time:

{Date}

Dear {name of senator}

I wish to record my opposition to bill S. 722. I request that you DO NOT change the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) of 1994, and ask that you OPPOSE S. 722 and all similar legislation. I state emphatically that I DO NOT want my access to dietary supplements to be limited.

Yours sincerely,

{Your name}

{Your address}

Finally, please forward this information to everyone you know, so that they may make their own choices concerning their personal lives!

Thanks ;-)
(http://www.agora-inc.com/forums/Inde...ssage_ID=59344) ''
Supplement Industry
Under Massive Global Assault
What You Can Do To Fight Back
6-21-3

http://rense.com/general38/supp.htm

-=-=-=

Your access to food supplements in doses that would promote optimal health
is threatened by agreements with a union of other countries known as CODEX.
Bill Sardi's letter to U.S. delegates to the CODEX meetings in Europe is
presented below.

http://www.orthomed.com/CODEX.htm
cheers, dar dobs

Posted by: RCfootball87

I'll send my letters out soon, but what about Creatine? Is it true that they could make it avaiable by prescription only? Is that in this new legislation? The individual states should NEVER have let the federal government get this much power in the first place!

Posted by: oaktownboy

man would that be ridiculous!!! what could we use then,besides plenty of protein and carbs?

Posted by: oaktownboy

i remember when that Orioles pitcher, Steve Bechler, or something like that, overdosed on ephedra and everyone wanted to ban ephedra..even if the stupid politicans don't know how the substance works or any of its chemical properties, they want it gone..how ignorant is that?

Posted by: RCfootball87

Quote:

Originally posted by oaktownboy
man would that be ridiculous!!! what could we use then,besides plenty of protein and carbs?

My doctor gave me the okay to use it at my physical on friday, he tihnks it's safe. So maybe if they did he would still give me a prescription, but if he didn't I'd use it illegaly, otherwise I'd shrink. I'd lose like ten pounds of bodyweight and get a lot weaker!

Posted by: repoj

The whole issue over ephedra isn't the use, it's the OVER-USE. It's the same thing with steroids, when you OVER use them they screw you up. I'v ebeen taking ephedra for my workouts since I was 18-I'm 25 now and it has NEVER effected me in any type of adrverse way. In fact there were times that I had to disscontinue use just because I got used to it's effects.

Posted by: nat bod

We on this side of the water are watching with great concern. Its unbelievable whats taking place(Pro-Hormones etc). What happens over there usually spreads over here (ephedrine is also off market).
Do your best guys. Ill be watching with faith.
(p.s can anything be done this side to aid).

Posted by: Jezziah

Americans are already facing an oustounding obesity problem, by limiting access to supplements it will be even harder for the fat bastards to get in shape

Posted by: repoj

Every Ephedra based product that I knew of at every retail establishment that I frequent has been either taken off the shelf or replaced by another product. If anybodies interested, you could more than likely get most ehpedra based products on e-bay. I got most of my cheep Ripped Fuel from e-bay. Many retail sellers will wind up with over stocked shit and sell it cheep by the bottle or case. I'd look into it.

Posted by: RCfootball87

Ephedra is already illegal here in Illinois. I think if just one company kept a good E/C/A stack on the market and assumed the legal risks of it they would make a bundle of money, people want ephedra.

Posted by: Twin Peak

Stock up now. Litigation is expensive, and no one likes to be a target.

Posted by: Prince

I think this thread deserves to be bumped!

Posted by: JoeyM

I'm sending mine out tomorrow morning and getting all of my friends and family to send them out as well. Lets hope more and more send so we can at least have an option out there instead of regulations. :/

Peace,
Joe

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally posted by JoeyM
I'm sending mine out tomorrow morning and getting all of my friends and family to send them out as well. Lets hope more and more send so we can at least have an option out there instead of regulations. :/

Peace,
Joe

Posted by: PreMier

I got a whole bunch of stuff from the USFA and I made copies here at work. I thin handed packets out to local supplement stores, and went by weekly for the sighned petitions. I probably mailed in over 1,000 of them. I also got a packet from Rick Collins, he seems like a cool guy.

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier
I got a whole bunch of stuff from the USFA and I made copies here at work. I thin handed packets out to local supplement stores, and went by weekly for the sighned petitions. I probably mailed in over 1,000 of them. I also got a packet from Rick Collins, he seems like a cool guy.

Posted by: 22"bi's

Man, just reading this whole thread pisses me off.......
any chance that this legislation will not pass????

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally posted by 22"bi's
Man, just reading this whole thread pisses me off.......
any chance that this legislation will not pass????

well, they banned ephedra.

please send in your letters!
go here, it will generate them for you!

Posted by: X Ring

lets go people, stop letting the bastards take control of our lives

Posted by: PreMier

Its funny... "America, land of the free" is turning out to be BS! Other countries have more freedoms than we do now.

Posted by: X Ring

thats b/c people are too willing to just bend over and take it up the ass "for the sake of ,,," like added security. Screw that get the hell out of my life and no you cant see what I am taking or what kind of guns I have bitch.

Posted by: Var

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
well, they banned ephedra.

please send in your letters!
go here, it will generate them for you!

Am I missing something? It keeps generating letters for a Nebraska and New York reps. I live in RI.

Posted by: nikegurl

since ephedra has been banned i cannot imagine that they would possibly leave phs on the market. it's only a matter of time...

(I agree we should keep sending letters - i just don't have much hope that it'll do any good)

Posted by: Var

I'll feel better just knowing I did SOMETHING

Posted by: PreMier

Yea, one of the supplement stores I took petitions too. The owner was a bitch ass mutherfuker! He said "No, I wont let you put petitions in my store. I dont want my name affiliated with anything the govt is against, or plans on banning. Plus if they want to do something they are going to do it, no matter how much people bitch."

Posted by: Var

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier
Yea, one of the supplement stores I took petitions too. The owner was a bitch ass mutherfuker! He said "No, I wont let you put petitions in my store. I dont want my name affiliated with anything the govt is against, or plans on banning. Plus if they want to do something they are going to do it, no matter how much people bitch."

Sounds like he lives in the former Soviet Union

Posted by: PreMier

The dudes name is Demarco. He used to be a famous BB. He was bragging how he was bigger than arnold and shit. Total ass.

Posted by: 22"bi's

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

So is it pretty much a done deal, that PHs will be banned soon enough?????

Posted by: 22"bi's

I hope we all know who Benjamin Franklin was.....and yes.....we are still in AMERICA-land of the free my ASS

Posted by: IronSlingah

Your senators are probly just gonna wipe thier asses with your pettitions. People that use PH have no impact on the votes they get and its a topic that they have no idea about since they have no reason to.

Maybe in Cali you can write to arnold and he might keep it legal.

Posted by: IronSlingah

Quote:

Originally posted by 22"bi's
I hope we all know who Benjamin Franklin was.....and yes.....we are still in AMERICA-land of the free my ASS

We are still the best country in the world you gotta take the good with the bad.

Posted by: 22"bi's

It just seems that more and more of our constitutional rights are being taken away ED....
its the drug abusers that make the users look bad...
Its the same stupid crap that has been pulled before....lets legalize alcohol and ban pot.....let them get plastic surgeries but not harmones....fuck the whole system in my opinion!!!!!!!!Its a big loop to feed all of the goverment agencies, CIA, FBI, DEA....all of the assess feed off of each other, and we the legitimate users get screwed in the way....sorry for the rant but this is not a democracy, more like fascism if u ask me....

Posted by: gr81

fuck this country, everything I like they take away fom me like I am a little child. We aren't free, we are having our choices taken away from us little by little, and I for one don't want to stand for it! 22"bis is exactly right, this ain't no democracy, this is an off-balanced monetary based rupublic where the rich and powerful decide the fate of us all. Its retarded if you ask me. Just b/c we are supposedly the best doesn't mean we can't do better. That just makes up the lesser of the evils. Its time for an uprising I say, whose with me??

Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

first all this...
10 years from now=we convert to communism.....

Posted by: PreMier

Quote:

Originally posted by gr81
fuck this country, everything I like they take away fom me like I am a little child. We aren't free, we are having our choices taken away from us little by little, and I for one don't want to stand for it! 22"bis is exactly right, this ain't no democracy, this is an off-balanced monetary based rupublic where the rich and powerful decide the fate of us all. Its retarded if you ask me. Just b/c we are supposedly the best doesn't mean we can't do better. That just makes up the lesser of the evils. Its time for an uprising I say, whose with me??

Im with ya!

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

I am with you!

We need a revolution, plain and simple, our government is OUT OF CONTROL! Period.

And fuck rolling over and playing dead, "they're going to ban it anyway like ephedra", fuck that! We need to keep bitching and doing everything we can.

The Iraqi people said the same thing, and look how they ended up...sad and pathetic.

WE ALL MUST FIGHT!

DON'T GIVE UP!

Posted by: 22"bi's

I'm with...

Posted by: PreMier

BREAKING NEWS!!!

The self proclaimed "Prince" and his army of meatheads have marched upon the capitol today. The armed forces were easily over run. The army of meatheads went straight to the congress of the USA and beat the shit out of every rep there. The then self proclaimed "Prince" crowned himself "King" and the govt as we know it is toppling...

Posted by: IronSlingah

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
I am with you!

We need a revolution, plain and simple, our government is OUT OF CONTROL! Period.

And fuck rolling over and playing dead, "they're going to ban it anyway like ephedra", fuck that! We need to keep bitching and doing everything we can.

The Iraqi people said the same thing, and look how they ended up...sad and pathetic.

WE ALL MUST FIGHT!

DON'T GIVE UP!

I can see it now bodybuilder suicide bombers wreaking havoc on washington D.C yelling out "FOR ARNOLD!!" before pulling the trigger.

Posted by: JoeyM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronSlingah
I can see it now bodybuilder suicide bombers wreaking havoc on washington D.C yelling out "FOR ARNOLD!!" before pulling the trigger.

Posted by: tk...

Quote:

Originally posted by IronSlingah
I can see it now bodybuilder suicide bombers wreaking havoc on washington D.C yelling out "FOR ARNOLD!!" before pulling the trigger.

hahahahahaha

The bad thing about the politcal systems these days is that when voting for a candidate, and considering he wins the election, the voters are not only voting for a mayor/president alone, they are also giving the politicians the right to make decisions on behalf of the voters for the following 4 years, with or without their concent. This is why elections are very important.

Posted by: 22"bi's

i'm confused....
if Arnold is the gov. of cali. why is that the only state to have PHs banned......

Posted by: nikegurl

Gov Davis signed the law banning ephedra as one of his last acts as governor so that wasn't Arnold. It was after the elections but Davis was still in power.

PHs are banned in CA? Never heard that....

I agree about government. Bit by bit we're losing more and more personal freedoms. When I think of all the ACTUAL problems facing this country it boggles my mind that they are spending time cracking down on ephedra etc.

psssst - do ya think the Feds are monitoring this thread?