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Posted by: Coop817

Maybe more of a lean bulk....

where can i find setups on this site for a second cycle geared more towards lean mass gains...?

or throw me a quick set up suggestion



Posted by: njc

In the diet forum......



Posted by: Coop817

nevermind, i just found the sticky....but ill still take suggestions



Posted by: GMO

wk 1-8 Test Prop 150mg EOD
wk 1-8 NPP 100mg EOD
Wk 3-8 Super DMZ 2caps ED
Wk 1-8 Adex 0.5mg EOD
Wk 1-8 HCG 500iu x2/wk

PCT:
Clomid 100/100/75/50/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

The "lean" part is going to be determined more by your diet than the compounds you run. I can cut on dbol and anadrol, and so can a lot of other people. Everything depends on your diet.



Posted by: swollen

Post up ur stats & what ur first cycle was...



Posted by: Coop817

Still in first cycle...but wanted to stock up so i am prepared when #2 comes around..

currently

1-10 Test E 500mg per week (250mgx2)
1-3 Dbol 50 ED - 25mg pre workout , 25 mg 8 hours later
3-10 - adex .25 eod (added this due to sore nipples and the dbol dose - which is caps so i cant figure a better way to get closer t0 30 or 40 mg)
3-10 HCG 250 x 2 per week

PCT Nolva - starting 2 weeks after last pin

37 years old
180lb
5 years training



Posted by: Coop817

the cycle below i pulled from the sticky. It is what i was considering for a second cycle, i just had a couple questions...

1) can i run adex instead of aromasin, and should i run hcg for this?
2)does prop every other day literally mean that...for instance..mon, wed,fri,sun,tues,thurs...or is it mon-wed-fri...?
3)how should the anavar be taken?
4)is prop shot with the same pins as test e, and same places?


The Cycle
1-8 Test Propionate 100mg/eod
2-8 Anavar 50mg/ed
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg/eod
PCT
9-10 Clomid 75mg/ed
11-12 Clomid 50mg/ed

What You Need
Test Propionate 100mg/ml - 10ml Vial x 3 Vials
Anavar 10mg Tabs - 50 Tabs x 5 Packs
Clomid 50mg Tabs - 50 Tabs x 1 pack






Posted by: GMO

Quote Originally Posted by Coop817 View Post
the cycle below i pulled from the sticky. It is what i was considering for a second cycle, i just had a couple questions...

1) can i run adex instead of aromasin, and should i run hcg for this?

Yes, but for PCT....you'll need to use aromasin

2)does prop every other day literally mean that...for instance..mon, wed,fri,sun,tues,thurs...or is it mon-wed-fri...?

EOD is every other day, so yes M,W,F,Su,T,Th, etc...

3)how should the anavar be taken?

50mg is not enough if you are going to run Var. 80-100mg is where you need to be at, which is why I recommended SuperDMZ

4)is prop shot with the same pins as test e, and same places?

Yes


The Cycle
1-8 Test Propionate 100mg/eod
2-8 Anavar 50mg/ed
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg/eod
PCT
9-10 Clomid 75mg/ed
11-12 Clomid 50mg/ed

What You Need
Test Propionate 100mg/ml - 10ml Vial x 3 Vials
Anavar 10mg Tabs - 50 Tabs x 5 Packs
Clomid 50mg Tabs - 50 Tabs x 1 pack
See the answers above in blue...



Posted by: johnniejr243

Quote Originally Posted by swollen View Post
Post up ur stats & what ur first cycle was...
Still waiting on stats!!



Posted by: Coop817

Quote Originally Posted by johnniejr243 View Post
Still waiting on stats!!


I posted them....

37
5 years training
5'9"
180 lb
14%BF

Pay complete and total attention to diet and training..I log absolutely everything...

currently running a 4 day upper lower split...focus on compounds...few isos to round it out...raised rep range recently to try and stimulate some growth.,...as a year ago i absolutly stalled in gains...made every change i could but no luck..

anything missing???



Posted by: johnniejr243

Liver support with d-bol but make sure its at least 4 hours before or after.
Also i would suggest get yourself some high resistance bands (ebay), they act like chains as in the stretch the greater the weight. It will help tremendously getting out of rut!!!



Posted by: GMO

Quote Originally Posted by Coop817 View Post
I posted them....

37
5 years training
5'9"
180 lb
14%BF

Pay complete and total attention to diet and training..I log absolutely everything...

currently running a 4 day upper lower split...focus on compounds...few isos to round it out...raised rep range recently to try and stimulate some growth.,...as a year ago i absolutly stalled in gains...made every change i could but no luck..

anything missing???
A more effective PCT is:

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

I just saw the one you had listed above. It will work, but recovery will be MUCH easier with the PCT I outlined.



Posted by: GarlicChicken

Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
A more effective PCT is:

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

I just saw the one you had listed above. It will work, but recovery will be MUCH easier with the PCT I outlined.
This is the exact PCT I use. Works well, just feel like a bitch for two weeks from the 100/day of clomid lol



Posted by: boyd.357

Why the hell do so many new people want to use nolva for pct?! (no disrespect Coop).



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