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Posted by: cornfed

New name... needed a damn new name LOL.

cut will continue for a few weeks... like 6-7weeks

... but only 3 more until spring break

... oh, well... 13.5% ain't exactly a tub of lard state. still would like it to be closer to 8%
Oh, well... I think I'm gonna add in 2 HI cardio sessions/wk ... and then stop after 3wks of it as I'll be starting on some FB supps by/b4 then and cut the cardio to 1 or 0/wk. Keep cals same and macros as well...

190-1 @ 13.5% BF and this calorie deficit ain't doin' much...
but I'll hold out hope since I don't wanna go any less ... I'm already down to 2100 kcals

PCF:
60/25/15 ish

keeping post WO carbs and taking in a 'lil more milk throughout the day... in my coffee addiction (LOL, I'm literally taking in 30-35 shots of espresso/day w/ zero jitters or elevated rhr)

split will remain the same, though I might take it a 'lil differently

currently it's a 4day split over 4 days... I may go for a 4day split over 5 days...

M- chest/bi
T- delts/traps/hams
W- quad/calves
Th- off
F- back (minus my usual tricep WO)
S- Chest/bi
Su- off

M- delts/traps/hams ...

basically doin' 5d/wk of a 4day split, now assymetrically.

It's a thought...

any opinions?

Posted by: cornfed

Eh, bdy wt has fluctuated b/w 187.5 and 189 over the past 3 days... but my strength's on the way up again

... I know I always say that poundage doesn't mean dick, but it is an added perk

Back on Sat... strength up a 'lil
Chest/bis... up 20lbs on incline, and up a 'lil on bis

Posted by: lina

My comment: that's a heck of a lot of strong coffee!

The problem with that is if you accidentally miss your shots you will have a splittin' headache! Why so much caffeine?

Do you carb up?

Posted by: cornfed

Forced immunization to it's effects LOL

it doesn't keep me up or give me jitters

just started out low and drak as I pleased I guess... I'm starting to believe that my body has ttrouble metabolizing alcohol and caffeine as well as developing quick/high tolerances to a # of substances. Just a theory... but sodium usinate does nothing for me anymore either

Tues:
Delts went about as average...
presses@ 170 for 10, 190 for 8, 210 for 6, 170 for 8
iso-lat/delt raises- @ 20 for 7 sets of 8-10
flyes- 112.5 for 12, 125 for 10, 137.5 for 10, 150 for 8, 162.5 for 6

wt is fluctuating like mad

Posted by: cornfed

Quote:

Originally posted by lina
Do you carb up?

Ummm... haven't in a week and won't for another week (h2o ret)... but I'm keeping the post W/O carbs. and I've compressed my w/o this week for travelling as fri is my 1st day of spring break

... but training will continue through the madness

Posted by: cornfed

awww... shit, had some carbs last night and I'm feelin like shit

btw, carb solution bars are pretty damn good

no gag reflex even

Posted by: cornfed

Fuqqing carb-guilt

Posted by: Seahawks51

Hey, Cornfed,

Could you post a sample day of your diet?

I am having difficulting getting my fat that low, esp. with the flax added to shakes specifically to add fat. I would like to see how you eat to stay close to PCF 60/25/15

Posted by: Yanick

Hey Cornfed, nice journal. Thats friggin crazy how much caffiene you take in a day. Do you think thermo's will even do anything to you with all that daily caffiene?

Also, why keep the fat so low? Haven't you heard, higher fat=higher test levels

Posted by: P-funk

Why aren't you carbing up for 2 straight weeks?

From my experience if I am in a caloric defecit and I go a week w/out a carb up I don't lose as much fat. I need something to jumpstart my metabolism. I carb up every 3rd and 4th day (Sunday and wed. night). You don't have to go overboard either and get all bloated. Just take in a bit more carbs/cals in your last meal. That usually helps me drop fat faster.

Just my 2 cents....for what they are worth.

Posted by: cornfed

meals 1-4,6:

generally 10oz chicken, 2tsp canola and some greens (broccoli/turnip grn/mustard grn/spinach)

~60g P
~11g F
----1.25g SF

meal 5:
post W/O
2C cottage ch w/ peptide bond-breaking enzymes added, 2C milk, .5 "giant pixie stix"

~70g P
~55.5g C
----47.5g S

totals:
P ~ 370ish (350-380)
F ~ 55ish
C ~ 55ish (excluding greens)

kcals= 21-2200 kcals

and as for fat intake and test, I'm fine. My last blood test (~month ago, ~same diet) showed Test @ 1138.
I'm abnormally high anywho

and for supps, no thermos here

low carbs through next week b/c it's fuqqin' spring break for me

Beach no like carbs LOL. and carb-ups never boost my metabolism noticeably. I've had better net results w/o 'em, but go frickin' crazy

Posted by: cornfed

more like PCF
67.5/10/22.5

Posted by: P-funk

Okay, so carbs don't agree with the beach on spring break. I agree.

My only question now is do you drink alcohol at all on spring break? Or is that okay becuase it dehydrates you and help to make you more cut.

Posted by: cornfed

and that's all I have to say

I factor that into my caloric intake

Posted by: cornfed

I'll see y'all not this comin' Mon, but the next

Peace, I'm outta here

Posted by: Yanick

lucky bastard

Posted by: cornfed

Not quite... only 1 day @ la playa (beach)

... weather sucked Sun, Mon, Tue (started work on Mon due to lack of good weather), cleared up on Wed bvut was at work, Thur (sunny at work), Fri (sunny at work), and Sat (my day off) ... it poured

Oh, well... I had carbs every fuqqing day though at 1st by accident

... but let it slide a bit... thank God for Aquaban and other OTC diuretics. Not much alcohol either... Sun & Fri

Oh, well... work = money

and I got my ink done

wt- 189

Posted by: Yanick

Quote:

Originally posted by cornfed
Not quite... only 1 day @ la playa (beach)

... weather sucked Sun, Mon, Tue (started work on Mon due to lack of good weather), cleared up on Wed bvut was at work, Thur (sunny at work), Fri (sunny at work), and Sat (my day off) ... it poured

lol, that sucks monkey balls. I know how you feel, my whole winter break was spent digging cars out from under the snow, damn NYC blizzards.

Quote:

Originally posted by cornfed
and I got my ink done

where did you get it done, and what is it?

Posted by: cornfed

check in Open chat "gettin ink done"... right delt.

Posted by: cornfed

wt 187

...

Posted by: cornfed

Tues Chest... weak as shit... 189 wed morning

Posted by: P-funk

Are you sill cutting? I though that you were just cutting until your spring break?

Posted by: cornfed

Naw...Just trying to do it a 'lil b4 spring break, but I'm taking this slow and steady... my visible bf% is going down very slowly, but wt is about the same .. w/ a general increase in strength... so.... I think I'm still making gains... I'm gonna try to cut slow while staying above 185 and hopefully around 190... priorities suck

being cut for summer is #1, but I didn't wanna be a bloated SOB for S/B.

Posted by: cornfed

187.5 VERY DRY ... and more defined...
shoulders yesterday were mediocre... Back tonight...

Posted by: cornfed

carb up this wkend...
wt Sun 198.5

back on Fri... decent...

Posted by: Yanick

Quote:

Originally posted by cornfed
carb up this wkend...
wt Sun 198.5

back on Fri... decent...

An 11lb gain? Holy shit, i thought you only carb up on like 100g of carbs?

Posted by: cornfed

I wanted to prove that 187.5 was dry so that I could give documentation of the LBM gains I've had on a kcal deficit. Tasted good, but a guy can only handle so much oatmeal/ brown rice and fuqqing tapioca

that's the 1st in a long time and the fuqqing last.

Posted by: cornfed

oh, BTW, the carb up was ~275g Fri night and 300? on Sat am ... bad idea, but principles are principles

Posted by: cornfed

Shnikies... I have no idea on wt...
I've managed to squeeze a 4day split into 3days (in a row)
I'm living on no sleep. and driving all day
I'm F'd up right now...

Posted by: cornfed

186.5 Sun morning... carb up Sunday night... managed to keep it down to 190this morning...

Note to self... don't work legs night b4 death metal concert

Posted by: P-funk

what death metal group are you going to see?

Posted by: cornfed

Went to see depswa/in flames/mudvayne fri night

Posted by: P-funk

nice...how was the mosh pit for mudvayne?

Posted by: cornfed

maybe not quite death, but close on the 1st 2

Posted by: cornfed

I generally prefer to chill and watch the bands, but I got in for a 'lil while... pits were bigger/more intense on the 1st 2 bands, the crowd payed more attention to Mudvayne.

pits were rough as I'm around 190 and I was the smallest guy in the 1 around me

Posted by: cornfed

Bastard carbups... I'm getting nowhere w/ 'em so they're goin' out the frickin window!
1 meal a week is gonna be it!
frickin crap

Posted by: cornfed

Oh, and I'm pissy b/c I gave in to cardio...

Posted by: Yanick

Quote:

Originally posted by cornfed
Oh, and I'm pissy b/c I gave in to cardio...

you know, where i'm from the punishment for cardio is having your legs cut off with a rusty hack saw.

Posted by: cornfed

Fuq, I hate this crap... and I'm liking the idea of a hack saw

Posted by: cornfed

Official stats.... tested yesterday:

ht: 5'9.5" (different every damn time

)
wt: 191.5lbs (metric people can suck a nut

)
bf%: 13.4 (13.42 by 9pt cal; 13.4 by hand-imped)

had to do 4day split in 3days... again

heavier this week, though...

Posted by: cornfed

chest day went alright on Mon... getting back up to where I was the week b4 break.
Delts today...

just trying to decide where to go for Easter... stay here or go to my home town

Oh, and power outages suck ass in a college town. The entire Brazos Valley was out for around 4hrs... and unfortunately I had no classes then... shoulda' been today...

I need to get some damn pics up... maybe this weekend...

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