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Posted by: slow

stats 21 yrs old around 213lb with 8-10 bf
I started my test enan winny and anti e cycle last tuesday

test 500 mg a week 1-10
winny 50 mg ed week 7-10
clomid week 10-14
nolva on hand

23 gauge needly with 1.5 inches
injected in delts first time (ouch) and quads today (not that bad)

I did my first shot of test last tuesday and gained around 3 pounds in a week and did a shot today. didnt really notice any strength gains. could be there though although I did do 4 sets of 20reps (10 each arm) of alternating dumbell curls with 65lbs. that is a little more than I usually do.


is that normal or am I supposed to gain more I know it depends on the person and all but it seems on the low side.

when does it kick in.



Posted by: Mifody

the test is already working in your system it will just take a couple weeks to reach peak levels. give it more time.

is your last shot of test on week 8 or 10? if its 10 then run the winny until end of week 12 and start your clomid the day after at the start of week 13. it takes 2 weeks for the enanthate to clear you system after your last shot and you might as well be running the winny during those 2 weeks while the test is tapering out of you.

3 weeks of clomid shoud be fine. 300mg first day in divided doses, 100mg for 10 days, 50 mg for 10 days.

since your using a 1.5 inch pin in your quads and shoulders you probably wanna keep some of the needle out (showing) as 1 inch is usually good enough for those areas



Posted by: crackerjack414

oh god 23 guage in your delt ouch u need atleast some 25 gauges for sites lol u are one brave kid



Posted by: cornfed

try 22ga in the bi... shooting prop LOL



Posted by: MJ23

22 1/4 is what I use



Posted by: Mudge

23g is nothing, I have heard of 21 and maybe even an 18, now that is like sticking a nail in yourself. However, for long term use go with 25, just pull with something faster like a 21.




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