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Posted by: racoon02

The gym I work at has a cable machine and it sucks. I Tricep pushdown the whole stack. So there is not enough weight for Lat Pulldowns. What is something I can do with the freeweights that will work my lats?



Posted by: NickB

bent over rows
pull ups



Posted by: racoon02

bleh, pullups

Will do bent over rows tomrrow. Completely forgot about those. Thanks!



Posted by: ZECH

I like 1 arm dumbbell rows!



Posted by: NickB

Aye, bent over and one arm rows are nice. 1 arm really isolates. I'll do the bent overs then do each seperate, followed by pulldowns for my lats.



Posted by: racoon02

They also have this inclined thing where you lay on your stomach and grab the handle and pull back. You stack free-weights on it. But I dont like it very mutch, It doesnt get my lats good :|



Posted by: gr81

If you want lats, wide grip pullups are your exercise, make no mistake. forget the pulldowns.



Posted by: Prince

Bent over barbell rows.



Posted by: racoon02

You missed the first post great, read the part about the cable machine at my gym



Posted by: kanun

Quote:
Originally posted by dg806
I like 1 arm dumbbell rows!
I've been meaning to ask for a while:
What is the correct form for these? I checked ExRx but they only have a cable 1 arm row.
With DBs, I find the movement a bit strange because the resistance is not 'opposite' you like with a cable, but more downwards because of gravity on the DB.
If I put my arm all the way out, like a [normal] row, my arms (esp. forearms) get way tired and I can't target my back as much. So what I do is, sitting down, keep the DB between my legs and then pull it up until my forearm is parallel to ground, and my back (on one side) is contracting.
Is this right? I always feel mega-sore the day after doing them, but I'm not 100% convinced I'm doing them well.



Posted by: HIC

Quote:
Originally posted by kanun
I've been meaning to ask for a while:
What is the correct form for these? I checked ExRx but they only have a cable 1 arm row.
With DBs, I find the movement a bit strange because the resistance is not 'opposite' you like with a cable, but more downwards because of gravity on the DB.
If I put my arm all the way out, like a [normal] row, my arms (esp. forearms) get way tired and I can't target my back as much. So what I do is, sitting down, keep the DB between my legs and then pull it up until my forearm is parallel to ground, and my back (on one side) is contracting.
Is this right? I always feel mega-sore the day after doing them, but I'm not 100% convinced I'm doing them well.
Not quite sure if we are going to be describing the same maneuver as I couldn't get the visual from your description. But this is how I've always done them. example for right arm repeat for left.

find a flat bench, place dumbell to right of bench left knee on back end of bench, left hand also on bench, right leg about 1 1/2 ft to right of bench. Back should be close to parallel with the bench abs tight. Grab dumbell, focus on pulling with lats.

http://www.gymonthehill.freeserve.co.uk/ex_dbrows.htm



Posted by: ALBOB

There was a little known pro a few years ago that was know to have an exceptional back and his primary exercise was barbell rows......................Dorian Yates, remember him?



Posted by: dvlmn666

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB
There was a little known pro a few years ago that was know to have an exceptional back and his primary exercise was barbell rows......................Dorian Yates, remember him?
Have you seen his video?

But yeah he also like the hammer strength equipment big time.

Deadlifts are awesome for overall back development, and what I noticed is by doing them before the Bent Over Rows, I didn't need as much weight on the Bent Over Rows or Pulldowns to get that burn to destroy my lats.



Posted by: ALBOB

I have his book but haven't seen the video.

I completely agree with the deadlifts. The first thing I do on back day is deads then DB pullovers and finally, BB rows.



Posted by: kanun

Quote:
Originally posted by HIC
Not quite sure if we are going to be describing the same maneuver as I couldn't get the visual from your description. But this is how I've always done them. example for right arm repeat for left.

find a flat bench, place dumbell to right of bench left knee on back end of bench, left hand also on bench, right leg about 1 1/2 ft to right of bench. Back should be close to parallel with the bench abs tight. Grab dumbell, focus on pulling with lats.

http://www.gymonthehill.freeserve.co.uk/ex_dbrows.htm
Oh, thanks... turns out I was doin them wrong...



Posted by: Mudge





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