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Just started 1-AD and 4-AD
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Posted by: slowpain
Well I just started taking my 1-AD and 4-AD cycle today. This is definately not the first time ive taken a prohormone cycle before. Ahh yes now I remember the feeling, tons of energy making me feel like I want to just cruze around on the strip picken up chicks, oh sorry, yea but I could feel it about 30 minutes after I took them, my workout was killer, and I still have energy. Ill let you know how things go as time goes on and muscle grows.
Posted by: Robboe
What type of 4-diol are you taking?
Oral? Transdermal?
Actually, is the "4-AD" the AST brand?
Posted by: slowpain
yes it is AST, why is there something wrong with this?
Posted by: Robboe
Nah, go for it.
Not my choice of product for various reasons though.
Good lucksey.
Posted by: slowpain
well see I took 4-AD from AST probably about 2 years ago and I got great results from it, all the usual problems testosterone with create like acne, increased agression, huge swells in the gym, I liked the stuff and I just want to see how it goes along with the 1-AD from ergopharm. I am going to take 500 mg/day of the 4-AD and 300 mg. of the 1-AD is this a good dose for someone weighing 176 lbs. or would you go up or down on dosage?
Posted by: Robboe
300mg 1AD is aight.
600mg is probably better in comparison.
Some have used 900mg with great success, but it's not necessary - i'd go with 600mg and assess results before upping dose.
The thing about the 4-diol is just that oral 4-diol ain't that marvellous - poor oral bioavailability. Ideally i would have gone transdermally - be it Avant Labs 4ADerm or Ergopharm's Androspray.
Not sure about the dose for oral 4-diol though - how big are the caps?
How long is your cycle gonna last?
Posted by: slowpain
ok thats what I wanted to know. If people are taking more that 300 mg 1-AD a day then I think I may go with 600 mg. As far as the 4-AD goes I have heard alot of good things about the transdermal. Now you have me wishing I would have went with the transdermal, but what if I just split up the caps which are 250mg. apeace into two servings and take it say six individual servings a day, throughout the day? would this work better you think or would I just run out of enzymes to convert it?
Posted by: Robboe
Not sure. Try it and see.
Posted by: slowpain
well I did it. I went and ordered 4aderm from 1fast400. I did alot of research on other boards and sights and sure enough this stuff looks like the most efective 4-AD. I want to put on as much mass as possible in 4 weeks.
Posted by: Twin Peak
Keep us posted on your results.
Posted by: slowpain
I had a question about the dosage, do you think it would be better to take 6 of the 1-AD pills which is 600mg. split up 6 times throughout the day, or should I take two pills three times a day? Which one is better? When I get the 4aderm how much would you guys recomend putting on for that much 1-AD? I want mass.
I am already seeing results and Ive only been on this cycle for almost a week now. I have gained 3 lbs, and guys let me tell you it is realy hard to find something that will make me gain any weight cause callories dose'nt do it to me. It looks as though this stuff is working. My muscles look much fuller and denser, and I find Im not sucking as much air on my heavy work outs. I am almost ready to break my 180 lbs. barier.
Posted by: Twin Peak
Glad to hear all is going well.
If you are looking for mass, I'd suggest 9 squirts of 4-Aderm twice a day, which will bw 600 mg daily.
Posted by: slowpain
alright I will try that and see how it works..
Posted by: bigpump23
600mg's 2 pills at a time
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