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Originally posted by dg806 You still must create a calorie deficit or the mobilized fat will redeposit. It still takes proper diet, cardio or both! |
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Originally posted by gopro Dude...who are you talking to here
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Ain't that what this joint is all about?
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Originally posted by DaMayor I thought DG's comment was an informative addition for the general public. Ain't that what this joint is all about?
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Just saw this. I'd like to add that, for a variety of reasons, Ab-Solved is the better abdminal fat mobilizer for MOST people. Ask Jodi. That said, I explained the science of each, as well as the correlating science behind why people store fat the way we do, to GoPro. Much of this, I am sure he already knew. Most abdominal fat on most people is a result of cortisol. This is what Ab-Solved targets. However, after discussing this with GP, based on his previous dieting tendencies and the way he described is fat storage (as above) it seemed like it was more likely that he was storing fat there due to "stubborn fat", as opposed to cortisol. This is what Lipo was designed for. Also, Lipo often causes some transient water retention, concomittently with the fat loss. So, often people do not notice results until a week or two off the product. All of this was discussed with GP prior to his purchase. In any event, this should be interesting. I know of no other time where an Avant product (or any other for that matter) was "tested" and journaled by a rep of another company. |
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Originally posted by gopro Sure it is! The comment just seemed to be directed toward me as this was a thread that I started and one that is about a "personal" experiment based on my personal program. Not that I'm mad at dg or anything as I am sure he had the best of intentions...I was really just busting his balls. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Since when has competitive bodybuilding ever been healthy? |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Just saw this. I'd like to add that, for a variety of reasons, Ab-Solved is the better abdminal fat mobilizer for MOST people. Ask Jodi. That said, I explained the science of each, as well as the correlating science behind why people store fat the way we do, to GoPro. Much of this, I am sure he already knew. Most abdominal fat on most people is a result of cortisol. This is what Ab-Solved targets. However, after discussing this with GP, based on his previous dieting tendencies and the way he described is fat storage (as above) it seemed like it was more likely that he was storing fat there due to "stubborn fat", as opposed to cortisol. This is what Lipo was designed for. Also, Lipo often causes some transient water retention, concomittently with the fat loss. So, often people do not notice results until a week or two off the product. All of this was discussed with GP prior to his purchase. In any event, this should be interesting. I know of no other time where an Avant product (or any other for that matter) was "tested" and journaled by a rep of another company. |
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Originally posted by lean_n_76er Going out on the "STUPID" limb here, but is this product (Ab-Solved) for anyone just trying to rid the fat or should it be used for comp only? |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak BTW, GoPro has decided to use Lipoderm-Y, for a variety of reasons I discussed above. Jodi has used Ab-Solved with significant effects. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Interesting. So, Eric, details. Did you start? If so when? Will you be going purely by sight/visual or are you taking measurements? Is your client that is using Lipo a female? I'd rather see a female using it on hips/thighs. Also, where did you purchase them from? |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Ab-Solved is designed to reduce abdominal fat by anyone who is in a hypocaloric state (i.e. a diet or cut). It will work at any BF%, but will be most effective if used by people who have trouble with abdominal fat, in particular. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak What day/date did you begin? Its meant to be applied twice per day, btw. You are better off doing 3/3. |
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Originally posted by gopro Like TP said, we did discuss the various fat burning topicals put out by avant. Also as he pointed out, I am quite aware of why we store fat, etc, but I was not aware of which product in the avant line was meant for what purpose. And for this, TP is the "go to guy." I have used topical products before for contest prep with the only good results coming from a former SAN product called Lipoburn. Of course, no topical fat burner is going to produce miracles, but I'm curious to see how the Avant product stands up. My bodyfat is around 8 % at the moment and my intention is to hit around 3% in several months. What I plan to do is for the next few weeks is to keep my program AS IS in order to really see what Lipoderm can do. My mind is completely open, so it will be interesting. I do of course hope that is works great!! |
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Originally posted by PulsatingArt 8%????? damn, I'm gonna start calling you SLOPRO (just kidding, I'm way higher than that, it was sarcastic) |
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Originally posted by gopro Hmmmm, I know you were just kidding around but I don't get the joke...please explain "Slopro..." (maybe I am "slow" for not understanding!) |
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Originally posted by PulsatingArt my goals are slightly different; i want the body of dorian with the face of a horor movie gargoyle!!! hahahahahaha |
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Originally posted by gopro Well, I don't know about the gargoyle face, but believe me, if I could look like Dorian naturally, I'd love it!! |
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Originally posted by dg806 It has 6 grams of Yohim in it. How much did Lipoburn have?? |
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Originally posted by Rodrugg Alls I can say is be careful experimenting with supplements. My uncle Stanley knows this guy and he experimented with all kinds of supplements to make his muscles bigger and his elbows more pointy. He used hog root, rot gut, persimmon leaves, raspberry bark, sugar bees. Now he's all hobbled and a ticking time bomb. My uncle says sometimes he shakes uncontrollably for no reason and spits on the walls and tugs at his belt loops. He's been to the doctor about 80 times and they want to put him in a coma til they can find out what's wrong with him. My uncle says he'll probably wind up dead in a corn field somewhere. |
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Originally posted by dg806 Awhhhh!! UA kinda scares me though. Think I'll just stick to Yohim when I try it! I accidently put this in your thread somehow at first??? That is why it shows edited by me. |
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Originally posted by dg806 You can get it in capsules! Want a link? |
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Originally posted by Par Deus Even better, YHCL makes you hold water, so results are typically much more noticeable about a week after you stop. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Glad it is going well for you. Do you have a competition coming up? |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak I assume your injury has healed well then. I hope I am as fortunate. |
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Originally posted by AC398 So how do you know if you should use lipodermY or ab-solved |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Torn rotator cuff (2 cm tear) from benching. Surgery is friday. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Torn rotator cuff (2 cm tear) from benching. Surgery is friday. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy I can't believe that I am reading this......................there is no cream that is going to burn bodyfat! |
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Originally posted by naturalguy I can't believe that I am reading this......................there is no cream that is going to burn bodyfat! Please, it sounds like you are an experienced bodybuilder and competitor, I am suprised that you are using this stuff. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy I can't believe that I am reading this......................there is no cream that is going to burn bodyfat! Please, it sounds like you are an experienced bodybuilder and competitor, I am suprised that you are using this stuff. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy I appreciate the information. That is very creative marketing. |
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Originally posted by dg806
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Originally posted by dg806 Yes marketing does work on uneducated consumers. But this product has no marketing. It sells because it works and by word of mouth. Same way his PH's did! There are several people on this board that are taking it right now. Look at their journals and see the improvements! |
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Originally posted by naturalguy Ok, let's assume you could deliver the required nutrients transdermally, there is no way that they would stay localized, for example if you put it on your "love handles" IF the nutrients got through transdermally, they would be cirulated through the blood stream and not stay in one area. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy I understand and I have read through the journals, however there are many factors that go into getting results. You cannot point to one product and say that did it. These people in their journals are also dieting and exercising. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy I understand and I have read through the journals, however there are many factors that go into getting results. You cannot point to one product and say that did it. These people in their journals are also dieting and exercising. |
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Originally posted by Jodi I have been dieting and exercising for a few years. I came to a complete halt in my fat loss in my waistline. I mean stagnant for months. I bulked over the winter time and then began a cut and followed the same diet I always followed, Bevery style diets but I bough Ab-Solved under TP's advice and I lost and entire INCH in my waistline. Now if you have ever seen pics of me online here you would now that I'm not overweight. So for me to drop and inch in my waist is a huge difference. That is proof enough for me without the science which I don't fully understand anyway. Also, when my bottle of ab-solved was gone, I didn't use it again for another month and I KEPT that inch I lost off without continuous use of the product. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy I am not trying to be the jerk on the board who causes all sorts of trouble but you just said that you bulked up first then added Ab-Solved AND dieted down. I am sorry, if this cream (sorry I keep calling it that) really spot reduces, it would be the greatest invention in a long while and they would be selling for $300 per bottle and would not be able to keep up with the demand. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy I am not trying to be the jerk on the board who causes all sorts of trouble but you just said that you bulked up first then added Ab-Solved AND dieted down. I am sorry, if this cream (sorry I keep calling it that) really spot reduces, it would be the greatest invention in a long while and they would be selling for $300 per bottle and would not be able to keep up with the demand. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy IF the nutrients got through transdermally, they would be cirulated through the blood stream and not stay in one area. |
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Originally posted by Jodi Its not a matter of what I believe to be true but what I experienced for myself. Proof is in the Pudding
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Originally posted by gopro In a way I was hoping that it didn't, but it did... |
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Originally posted by Par Deus Hehe -- I know what you mean. This is how I was with 6-oxo -- as much as I like Ergo and my friend PA, I had some promising stuff that 6-oxo has made pointless to pursue. |
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Originally posted by Rodrugg Alls I can say is be careful experimenting with supplements. My uncle Stanley knows this guy and he experimented with all kinds of supplements to make his muscles bigger and his elbows more pointy. He used hog root, rot gut, persimmon leaves, raspberry bark, sugar bees. Now he's all hobbled and a ticking time bomb. My uncle says sometimes he shakes uncontrollably for no reason and spits on the walls and tugs at his belt loops. He's been to the doctor about 80 times and they want to put him in a coma til they can find out what's wrong with him. My uncle says he'll probably wind up dead in a corn field somewhere. |
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