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1-AD (First Ever Cycle)

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Posted by: Nate

Ok, I'm going to use this thread to chart the progress that I make with 1-AD. I'll keep it as detailed as possible.

Weight: 165 (i think, i may have to edit this)
Height: 5'9"
BF%: 8%
Max Bench: 205
Max Deadlift: 375
Max Squat: 265 (ass on the ground)

I'm currently doing a bench program designed by Shawn Phillips, and it basically surrounds your training with push-pull/opposing muscle group excercises. Today I trained my back and bi's really really hard, and I hit the punching bag for a bit.

Tomorrow I start taking the 1-AD

I think my split will look something like this:

Monday:

Flat Bench routine as assigned by Shawn Phillips.
Dumbell Press
2 shoulder excercises. (train on intuition)

Tuesday:

Back and Bi's.

Close grip pulldowns
Barbell Rows

(superset)
EZ bar curls.
Inclined bench curls

stiff legged deadlifts

Wednesday

Cardio

Thursday

Chest excercise #2 for the week.

2 triceps excercises of choice

Friday

Cardio

Saturday

Squats
Leg Presses
Legs Curls
Calf Raises
Barbell Curls

So, yeah, there you have it. I'll update as I go!

Feel free to list other things you'd like me to monitor in this therad.

Posted by: Shmoo

On back day your doing stiff legged deadlifts. Although they do hit the back some, they are more of a hamstring exercise. I think regular deadlifts would be the better exercise on back day.

On leg day you have barbell curls, is this a typo error bc you already have a bi day.

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by Shmoo
On back day your doing stiff legged deadlifts. Although they do hit the back some, they are more of a hamstring exercise. I think regular deadlifts would be the better exercise on back day.

On leg day you have barbell curls, is this a typo error bc you already have a bi day.

The stiff-legged deads was actually a typo.

Also, the bench program i'm on actually has me doing arms twice a week, but I don't like that idea so much, so i won't completely exhaust the muscles on the second workout....hence just one workout.

Posted by: Nate

Just took my first pill!

I'm a little nervous...wish me luck!

Posted by: iSlaNdEr bOy

what dosage of 1-ad are you taking and also how long of a cycle?

Posted by: Nate

I'm going to start with the recommended dosage, three pills a day, for the first week. After the second week I'm going to do five a day until my two bottles run out, however long that may take...

I just got home from the gym. Quality leg day today....

Posted by: Nate

Hey, let's all pray i don't get any acne!

Posted by: PB&J

Good luck man, hope it works for you. You should notice things in two weeks. Don't forget to eat like a madman!!!!

Posted by: iSlaNdEr bOy

what is your diet like? how long have you been lifting before you decided to try ph's? i'm curious about trying ph's, but don't know if i'm ready and that disciplined yet (as far as dieting is concerned). i've only been lifting for a year.

Posted by: court

hey good luck with 1-AD i gained 10 lbs from it

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by iSlaNdEr bOy
what is your diet like? how long have you been lifting before you decided to try ph's? i'm curious about trying ph's, but don't know if i'm ready and that disciplined yet (as far as dieting is concerned). i've only been lifting for a year.

my diet is about as strict a diet as you can find. i eat about 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight...per day...sometimes more... never less. i never eat trans fats, complex sugar (with the exception of a creatine transport) or high GI carbs..

i've been lifting on and off for about two years, but i got serious about it three months ago.

I just trained my chest today and it went quite well. No real noticeable strength gains, but that is to be expected after using the supplement for just two days.

Posted by: slowmo

hey nate, I'm new here and will follow your thread with great interest,will you be taking any supps other than 1-ad,if so what and how much.

slowmo

Posted by: iSlaNdEr bOy

after your cycle are you gonna take anything like 6oxo? also, for how long?

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by slowmo
hey nate, I'm new here and will follow your thread with great interest,will you be taking any supps other than 1-ad,if so what and how much.

slowmo

Awesome, I appreciate it.

Right now I take:

Cell Tech- (Just one scoop, not a full serving...that's ridiculous)

Glutamine- 10 Grams a day

A multi-vitamin

EAS Strawberry Whey Protein- Probably 4 shakes a day.

I was thinking about getting some horny goatweed to counteract the reduced libido that is expected from 1-AD. What do you guys think about that? I don't want to try a stack yet (4AD), with this being my first time and all.

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by iSlaNdEr bOy
after your cycle are you gonna take anything like 6oxo? also, for how long?

I plan on doing a bottle of 6oxo post cycle...just one bottle until it runs out.

Posted by: iSlaNdEr bOy

cool. keep us informed. i'll be here following also.

Posted by: Nate

What kind of diet do you guys think I should adopt?

I'm pretty lean right now, and I'd like to stay that way throughout the cycle.

I was thinking maybe eating slow burning carbs with every other meal, and a lot of them.

Also, what do you guys think about the big protein bars? ...Nitro Tech Bars, Mesotech Bars...They have a lot of processed sugar, dont' they?

Posted by: iSlaNdEr bOy

What diet are you following right now? As far as the bars, I've been given advice that they're not really that good for you especially if your dieting.

Posted by: RCfootball87

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate
Hey, let's all pray i don't get any acne!

1-AD does not aromatize, so it's highly unlikely you'll get acne.

Posted by: RCfootball87

Nate, I recommend you end the cycle at 8 weeks, no matter if you have any 1-AD left or not. Also, how old are you? This will effect your results.

Posted by: mrguy

Why would you take 6oxo since 1-ad does not aromatize to estrogen?

1-ad converts to 1-test which is a DHT derivative and incapable of aromatizaiton.

If anything, you should take someting to kick start your own test production since 6 to 8 weeks on 1-AD can really slow it down.

I've done several cycles of 1-test and have never had a problem with side effects.

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by RCfootball87
1-AD does not aromatize, so it's highly unlikely you'll get acne.

acne is an androgenic side effect, right?

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by mrguy

If anything, you should take someting to kick start your own test production since 6 to 8 weeks on 1-AD can really slow it down.

Would I be wrong if I said that's why I'm going to take 6-oxo?

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by RCfootball87
Nate, I recommend you end the cycle at 8 weeks, no matter if you have any 1-AD left or not. Also, how old are you? This will effect your results.

Yeah, I'm guessing my cycle will last no more than 6 weeks at the pace I'm going. I'm 20.

Posted by: Nate

Today was the first day I've lifted in three days. I did my chest and a bit of shoulders.

I passed my failure test, and I'll be moving up on the chest program I'm doing. I felt a tad bit stronger today, but nothing really notable. I'm on my 6th day of 1-AD.

Also, my endurance has not seemed to improve yet, but it's still early in the cycle.

Tomorrow is back/bi's. I'll let you guys know how that goes.

Posted by: iSlaNdEr bOy

so did you figure out what type of diet you're going to follow while you're on your cycle?

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by iSlaNdEr bOy
so did you figure out what type of diet you're going to follow while you're on your cycle?

I'm still working on it.

I'm thinking six meals a day and somwhere in the 2500 calorie range...with moderate slow burning carbs. I'm starting to get hungry all the time now, which is much different than before..

Posted by: iSlaNdEr bOy

do you think that's because of the 1-ad? have you noticed any fat loss?

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by iSlaNdEr bOy
do you think that's because of the 1-ad? have you noticed any fat loss?

yes, and....no

i've upped my calories...if anything i've smoothed out a bit.

Posted by: RCfootball87

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate
acne is an androgenic side effect, right?

Androgenic means male virilizing. I'm not sure if it would be considered and androgenic side effect, but I don't know if there really are any other kdis that are visible without tests. But the point is acne is not common with 1-AD although you may experience a slight increase in back acne, but this would be very light. Unless of course you're a rare individual whose extremely sensitive to these products, then you might have some bigger problems.

Posted by: ZECH

Quote:

Originally posted by mrguy

If anything, you should take someting to kick start your own test production since 6 to 8 weeks on 1-AD can really slow it down.

That is what 6-oxo does!

Posted by: ZECH

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate
acne is an androgenic side effect, right?

Yes

Posted by: Nate

Back/Bi's day today.

I only managed about 6 and half hours of sleep this morning, and I began my workout only about an hour after I woke up.

The Lat Pulldowns and the barbell rows proved to be difficult today. I just wasn't feeling it at all, so I had a lot of difficulty. Once I hit the seated rows, however, I started to get going. The arms routine was extremely intense today, but the poundages have yet to go up.

As of right now I don't think I've noticed a thing yet, aside from a little bit of an extra pump and a few small pimples on my shoulders.

Posted by: slowmo

Hi nate, you still taking 1 pill a day,do you think you would of had better results if you had started with the larger dose.

slowmo

Posted by: slowmo

sorry nate 3 pills a day

Posted by: Nate

Yeah, I'm still doing three pills per day. I might go up to four a day for my second bottle, but we'll see how things are by then.

Posted by: iSlaNdEr bOy

any new updates?

Posted by: Twin Peak

I think 6 pills a day is the common dosage.

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
I think 6 pills a day is the common dosage.

Yeah, but I'm just a tiny little thing.

Posted by: slowmo

Hey nate, any changes to report?

slowmo

Posted by: Nate

Alright a bit of an update.

I'm still taking three pills a day and I've increased my calorie intake quite a bit...

Today was triceps day...if anything I was weaker than the last triceps workout

But it's still only been 9 days since I started taking my cycle.

I have a slight increase of acne on my face and back. It's a bit bothersome, but it's nothing to get too concerned about.

I think I might increase my dosage a bit starting next week.

My bodyweight is up two pounds and I haven't noticed any difference in leaness(if that's even a word.)

Posted by: ZECH

At 9 days you should notice a difference!

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806
At 9 days you should notice a difference!

Yeah, you're telling me.

I noticed a difference for chest/shoulders and for biceps/back though. So all is well in the world.

Posted by: RCfootball87

Nate, be sure to keep a steady intake of quality muscle building foods gonig, you're going to need it.

Posted by: Nate

Today I decided to do some deadlifts.

I think my sets went something like this:

135 x 10
185 x 6
225 x 6
285 x 3
315 x 2
335 x 1
375 x 1

375 is my new personal record, and i felt that it went up damn strong. i did some leg curls, calf raises and abs, also. all felt very very good. i think the stuff is startin to kick in!

Posted by: slowmo

hey nate any visual changes that u can notice,well done on your personal best in deadlift!

slowmo

Posted by: Nate

Alright...Chest Day today.

I passed my failure test again today. I felt strong at the very beginning of my workout, but I lost some steam, and I lost it fast. I think that has to do with the bigger poundages being lifted at the beginning of my workout.

I've noticed a slight decrease in bodyfat, and the scale tells me that I've gained two pounds.

Good stuff so far.

Posted by: S.O.S

hey Nate, any new updates? its been about 17 days i think let us know

Posted by: reflex

Are you running 4-AD with this ph cycle Nate? If not, did you consider it?

Posted by: Nate

Alright guys, a little update for you.

I've upped my dosage to 500 mg a day. For those of you who don't know, that's 5 pills. I normally take two with breakfast, two with my mid afternoon meal, and one with dinner. Last night I didn't take it until right before bad, and I couldn't sleep. It was pretty bad/frustrating, but that's my own fault.

As for side effects: I've had a bit of pain in my testicles upon urination, but nothing to write home about. I've been lethargic as hell, but that is to be expected. The acne isn't too bad, but it's definitely noticeable. I've had a racy heart a few time in the gym, but it's tough to tell if that has anything to do with the 1-AD.

As for lifting/body composition: I've put on three pounds. As it appears, three solid pounds. I weigh myself on the same scale, at the same time of day, and after eating the exact same food, everyday. I think my bodyfat has dropped a bit, but it has been steadily dropping since I began my diet, so again, I don't know if the 1-AD has anything to do with that. I can see veins in my lower abs....

Pretty freakish for me.

...On Friday I deadlifted 385. That's up ten pounds from last week. I also did 315 for a triple. I've never done that before. This week I'm going to take 315 to failure and see what happens. Today I bench pressed. Last week I did 185 for 3 during my failure test. This week I did 190 for 4. Clearly stronger there. Most of my weights have been going up fairly steady, but then again they have since I began training again a couple months back.

So far so good I suppose!

As for trying 4-AD...I thought about it, but for my first cycle I think it's best to just stick to 1-AD for now. I'm not going to cycle often, and I'm going to bust my ass to keep the gains I make while draining my pockets on this stuff.

I'll gladly answer any questions when I get the time.

Edit: About my sex drive.....Gone.

Posted by: RCfootball87

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate
Most of my weights have been going up fairly steady, but then again they have SINCE I BEGAN TRAINING A COUPLE MONTHS BACK

Posted by: Nate

Quote:

Originally posted by RCfootball87

I should have said training again. I've trained for three years.

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