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Posted by: Mudge

Compliments of Andy13

Clenbuterol FAQ: Everything you need to know about Clen
I wrote this because of all the confusion that surrounds this drug. Enjoy.

What is Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35 hours and not 48 hours.

Dosing and Cycling

Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump and injectable form. Doses are very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere in the range of 5-8 tablets per day for men and 1-4 tablets a day for women is most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after 6-8 weeks when body temperature drops back to normal. It's anabolic/anti-catabolic properties fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine can be used in the off weeks.

Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP

Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine short half life prevents it from being all that effective.

As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a time.

Side effects

NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN

The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and increased blood pressure.

Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming bananas and oranges or supplementing with GNC potassium tablets at 200-400mg a day taken before bed on an empty stomach.

Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taken at the first signs of a headache. You may need to take double the recommended dose.

Common Uses

Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness, vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be used by non AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, Carbs must be included in the diet. Keto diet do not work well in this case.

Precautions: Is Clen for you?

The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although some people find ECA stacks harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation before a workout for an extra kick, although its diuretic effects may shift electrolyte balance. Drink more water if you use Caffeine.

What else do I need to know?

Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within the first 3-4 days of use.

A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day.

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
Day14: 60mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100mcg
Day14: 80mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water: 1.5-2 gallons a day.

All brands are not equal when it comes to Clen, different brands will yield different results.

That about covers everything.

Posted by: david

Very well stated, Mudge!

Posted by: Mudge

I guess I'm getting good at copy and pasting huh?

Andy13 is fairly well known...

Posted by: Fitgirl70

Yeah, thanks for the information Mudge.....that being said, I have two bottles of the LiquiClen that I won here for the May contest. Already taking a thermo, and really liking it, I really don't think I'll use it....does anyone want them?

I will be happy to mail it to you.
Thanks again Mudge

Posted by: never2good

hey i would love some of that please if you could help me out i have been after some for so long but cant seem to get hold of any, if u could email me at rudeboystoner@hotmail.com and we can talk about getting it arranged that would be awesome, i would appreciate it so much thanks xx

Posted by: Rocco32

So is there any PCT for using Clen?

If run with T3, would you cycle the T3 every 2 weeks as well with the Clen?

Posted by: Pirate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocco32

So is there any PCT for using Clen?

If run with T3, would you cycle the T3 every 2 weeks as well with the Clen?

No pct is necessary for clen. That clen faq is outdated, btw. You could stay on the T3, as opposed to 2 on/2 off. Personally, I wouldn't recommend T3/clen to any man not on gear or prohormones.

Posted by: PWGriffin

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

No pct is necessary for clen. That clen faq is outdated, btw. You could stay on the T3, as opposed to 2 on/2 off. Personally, I wouldn't recommend T3/clen to any man not on gear or prohormones.

Would taking clen while on cycle (prop/tren will be my next cycle, looking to get ripped) be bad or good?? If both of those affect blood pressure could it be dangerous? And of course my diet and training is already in order.

Posted by: Pirate!

I had no problems using prop/tren/t3/clen at the same time. Lost fat and kept or gained strength any on every exercise.

Posted by: Pirate!

Posted by: Lomac

Is clen scheduled in the US?

Posted by: Pirate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lomac

Is clen scheduled in the US?

nope.

Posted by: killer4life

can clen be combined with phenogen or some other suppl of that nature for better results?

Posted by: Cleahy

Hello, what is the recommended dosage for a first time user of liquiclen? My bottle contains 200mcg/ml.
Thanks

Posted by: NeilPearson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleahy

Hello, what is the recommended dosage for a first time user of liquiclen? My bottle contains 200mcg/ml.
Thanks

For a beginner that doesn't have lots of experience with a weight lifting routine and doesn't have a rock solid diet? I would say 0 mcg/day

Posted by: Cleahy

Hi, thank you for your reply. I workout 5 days a week and run 3-4 x per week 6-8 miles. Don't mean to question your response, but i'm curiious as to why you say 0 clen? I've heard so many different things and not really sure which direction i should go.

Posted by: NeilPearson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleahy

Hi, thank you for your reply. I workout 5 days a week and run 3-4 x per week 6-8 miles. Don't mean to question your response, but i'm curiious as to why you say 0 clen? I've heard so many different things and not really sure which direction i should go.

Mostly because of this post, "Thanks. Great pics - you are in awesome shape! I'm looking for any sugguestions you may have to help me get rid of these unwanted pounds.
I'm in the gym 5 days a week and run 3-4 days a week approx 8 miles. I am working on improving my eating habits. Its not that i eat bad things, but lack of. I'm now eating small meals 3-4 times per day vs 1 meal. I know that is one of my major issues and have noticed a big difference since i made the change.
I'm open for any diet or workout plan you may suggest."

It sounds like your diet still has issues (change eating 3-4 times a day to 5-6 for starters) And it sounds like you may be overtraining. Basically overall, I just didn't get the impression that you had done enough research and experience in diet and exercising to even think of taking a drug.

Posted by: Fifedogg

Your the Man Mudge! Great overview

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