My Liver [Forum Archive]

-->

Pages: 1

My Liver

(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)

Posted by: Dillyo

About a year ago I started taking 10 grams of creatine and a lot of protein shakes daily. I used these products for about 6 months untill stopping working out. I have been off for about 6 months now. My concern is that I costantly have to pee. I pee about 20 times a day, and do not drink that much fluids a day. I know that when I was on creatine, I had to urinate alot, but I was drinking gallons of water and alot of creatine. I am 130 pounds ( im very lean and small ). I want to know if I damaged my liver by taking these products, and if frequent urination is abnormal. Thanks.

Posted by: DaMayor

What's your water intake now?

Do you consume caffeine?

Posted by: Mudge

You cant possibly be peeing out more than you drink per day over a years time, so you must be drinking more than you think.

Posted by: Var

Frequent urination can be an indicator of several ailments. See a doctor just to be safe. The Creatine has nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Mudge

By the way, the main complaint is that creatinine raises kidney levels, not liver

supposedly though this is a non-issue.

Posted by: Dillyo

Yea, I'm sorry. Im sure you can tell im only 17 years old. I did not want to say anything about my age because the second you mention an age under 18 your respect is lost. Whatever. So I will check with my doctor. Var, maybe you could give me some examples of what it could indicate? And Mudge, I definitly feel that these supplements have effected my body. Maybe it is because of my age, maybe it is because of miss use. I consumed only 10 grams of creatine a day, not much. I think the dextrose maybe effected it more... Much more was used? I have no idea. Iggnorant child

. If anyone else has any thoughts on this "ailment", id appreciate hearing them. Thanks.

Posted by: Mudge

The mind can affect the body to no end, you can convince yourself something has done something to you and you will make yourself sick.

I have never seen creatine do anything funny, but there is nothing wrong with getting tested.

Posted by: Dillyo

No drugs will come up on this test right? lol.. maybe marijuana?

Posted by: Mudge

On a blood test? No, they wont be looking for any of that, I have on idea if that even shows up in the blood since its usually tested by urine.

Posted by: dg806

This should have nothing to do with your liver. More than likely it has something to do with your prostrate! Go have it checked!

Posted by: dg806

Also the creatine and protein would not affect this!

Posted by: Dillyo

Thanks for your help guys. Like I said I did not know. All i knew is that after taking all these supplements, I pee alot. So I decided to ask. Ill check with my doctor. Thanks again.

Posted by: OceanDude

I have similar problems actually. You are probably a naturally small guy with a small bladder. The extra water & fluid absorption caused by Creatine supplementation should have been well out of your system by now. If you are of coarse drinking a lot or more likely eating a lot of water rich foods (e.g. pasta, rice, fruits, oatmeal etc.) then your body is simply dumping excess water. As long as the urine is clear after your initial morning urination (where its usually yellow) then I strongly doubt you have any kidney issues. Also, if you are on a very high protein diet like a ketogenic or Atkins kind of diet then the body will tend to naturally dehydrate and dump a lot of fluids. Also look into salt intake or anything that can act as a diuretic. In all probability it’s a combination of having more water intake than you think through direct and indirect food sources, some diuretic effects and a small bladder. If the color of the urine is pale yellow or darker consistently then seek medical attention.

p.s. Don't forget to count the water in your protein shakes.

Posted by: Mudge

As DG mentioned this is usually a prostate problem, and at your age it is very unlikely but who knows, I think you are just not paying attention to how much you drink, be it water soda or protein shakes your going to pee out liquid that goes through your mouth.

If the prostate becomes enlarged, it presses against part of your organs required for evacuating urine. So what ends up happening is you constantly go to the bathroom, letting out only small quanities and then perhaps 15 minutes later you have to go again, but you never feel like your getting it all out.

Posted by: OceanDude

I pretty much discounted the prostate as being way down in the noise level of probability (subfractional %) at his age bracket. The other possible thing is, if this correlates to a sudden change in fitness lifestyle and heavy suplimentation is that he is ingesting large does of certain minerals or "exotic" bodybuilding additives that may be slightly irritating his bladder and giving him signals to urinate more often than he needs to. I can't begin to guess what kind of supliments could do this since each person has their own particular sensitivites and alergic reactions. It might be worth experimenting and seeing if the problem is related to specific suplimentation or foods that he is ingesting.

Posted by: DaMayor

Good point ,OD. While it is always better to be safe than sorry, at his age I would seriously doubt any major medical conditions. There are so many factors that could cause urination frequency to increase (such as those mentioned above; e.g., bladder size, mis-calculated water intake, salt, caffeine, SKD's, etc.) I think I would first attempt to eliminate one suppliment/factor at a time in order to determine the true culprit.

Oh, and DillYo, quit smoking pot.

Posted by: Dillyo

My urine is always clear, even in the mornings. I am definitly a well hydrated person, but I find it hard to believe that I have to urinate so often. Just going out with my friends, I will go to the bathroom so much more often then them. All my friends think I have a problem because I go to the bathroom so often. I'm not saying this because it bothers me, but because it concerns me. I consume a good deal of salt because I eat fast food about once a day. I'm going to tell me father, who is a doctor. I'm sure he will just tell me I'm fine. (He's an eye doctor). But the reason why I ask you here is because if I know something could seriously be wrong with me, then I will go to the doctor. Since I did not know anything on the topic, if I just asked my father, he would not send me to the doctor for this. So I appreciate your help guys.

Posted by: Dillyo

Didnt your mother ever tell you pot is good for you?

Posted by: DaMayor

Quote:

Originally posted by Dillyo
Didnt your mother ever tell you pot is good for you?

Nah, actually she told me it was bad for my liver......makes you urinate a lot.

Posted by: Dillyo

Posted by: dg806

Quote:

Originally posted by DaMayor
Nah, actually she told me it was bad for my liver......makes you urinate a lot.

Now that is Classic DM!!

Posted by: sawheet

You also could be borderline dibetic, diabetics go into what is called ketosiis and urinate more frequently. just get a regular blood work up, and or test your glucose levels at different times during the day.

Posted by: Dillyo

I just remembered that I get my blood tested once a month because I am on accutane, and it has never come up bad?

Posted by: Var

Sorry for the late reply Dillyo. I was actually referring to possible prostate problems or diabetes (as others later mentioned). I wasn't specific because you seem a little jittery about this stuff. You probably have NOTHING to worry about. Get checked out as a precaution...and then RELAX!!!

Posted by: Dillyo

thank you. i am a very paranoid person. DaMayor: It's not the weed. I could get into further detail but I am sure the people on this forum do not care to hear anymore about my paranoia.

Var, DaMayor, and everyone else who responded to my post, thank you for your help. I will let you guys know what the doctor has to say. Tonight, I payed attention to how often I peed and how much a drank starting at dinner. I drank two glasses of iced tea, and peed 5 times 2 hours. FIVE TIMES. And they were full urinations! As you guys can tell, I like to talk alot, and will probably continue talking about this untill people stop responding, so when you all get sick of me, and my post, please stop responding. lol.

Posted by: oaktownboy

right relax and then go out and drink plenty of alcoholic beverages

Posted by: OceanDude

Quote:

Originally posted by Dillyo

thank you. i am a very paranoid person. DaMayor: It's not the weed. I could get into further detail but I am sure the people on this forum do not care to hear anymore about my paranoia.

This is now taking on the dimension of a good mystery so I want to follow this. What did you have for dinner? Anything like rice, high water content veggies etc.?

Posted by: Mudge

My younger brother would not take creatine either, so your not alone

if anything I dont view it as all that bad because it would keep him away from heavier things I would hope anyway, but honestly some people will do drugs but wont touch wussy supplements, which is bassackwards to me.

Posted by: nectron101

Dillyo...
Do the following:
1- Drink 2 medium cups of water.
2- Don't eat rice, or other water absorbant foods.
3- Keep a record of what you drink.
4- Don't go to the bathroom unless you REALLY need to.
For one day only..

Then tell me the following:
1- How many times did you have to go to the bathroom.
2- The color of the urine.
3- Was the ammount you drunk close to the ammount of urine disposed?

I think I can help.

Posted by: Dillyo

Only two cups of water in a day?

Posted by: SpecialK

Looks like someone could use a colon/liver cleanse....just a suggestion.

Posted by: OceanDude

SpecialK - OK I'll bite. Is that some yoga thing or what is it?

Posted by: SpecialK

No, no yoga here...although he could use it as a prep stage...because the whole process could use lots of mental strengh. I was suggesting detox for both, liver and colon. Some people's digestive systems are not used to ecxessive protein intake...so a good detox might work good for his problem.

Posted by: OceanDude

ok - how about some details - how does one go about it? Food choices or some kind of suppliment? This a herbal thing?

Posted by: SpecialK

Some options:
1. Herbal Supplements

2. Food fasting (pretty much water and veggies + juices)

3. Medical Facility usually averages $60-$100 for a colon cleanse. Process of flushing water through your colon (do I need to get any more descriptive?)

For good liver cleanse, usually a fasting of 3-5 days is required, and then on the last day a glass of olive oil with a glass of lemon juice is drank...and then all the "fun" begins.

Posted by: DaMayor

Yikes!

I think I'll keep my contaminated colon, thanks anyway.

Posted by: SpecialK

Contaminated is the word....can you imagine what's all in there...all that great protein of yours. Must get a colon cleanse, ASAP!

Posted by: Dillyo

A hose shoved up my but and turn on sounds fun..... No thanks. Five days of fasting and a glass of OLIVE OIL?! I dont think it is possible to consume a full glass of pure olive oil without vomitting. I appreciate your suggestion, it is just not possible.

Posted by: nectron101

Quote:

Originally posted by Dillyo
Only two cups of water in a day?

No! Drink at least 2 cups of water, and keep a record of what you drink "Also the overall amount of liquids you drink"...

when you go to the bath room, use an empty bottle of water to count the amount of urine you dispose..

Give me the amount of liquids you drunk, and the amount of urine you disposed+ the color of urine.. that's all!

If they're close to each other, then you're fine, if the urine is a lot more than the amount of liquids you drunk, then I suggest visiting a doctor..

Posted by: nectron101

Remember!
Beer is VERY GOOD for livers, cleans just like an acid!!

Posted by: ponyboy

Quote:

Originally posted by SpecialK
Contaminated is the word....can you imagine what's all in there...all that great protein of yours. Must get a colon cleanse, ASAP!

I've had several friends who have done these. Sometimes the stuff that comes out is black ropy and thick....imagine that it is inside your body!

Posted by: SpecialK

Yes, all the undigested food through out the years...that is stuck to the inestinal walls...how gross....you ever wonder what's inside those big guts you see on a street...not food my friends...crap that's been sitting in there for too long.

Ok, long day for me...I think I got my frustrations out

Posted by: nectron101

He doesn't want to do anything..

Let him die!

Posted by: sawheet

DUDE please get blood work and dont do anything else, only a baseline blood work and insulin, glucose levels will help. NO I repeat NO supplements or weird cleansing regiments will help. Stick with science and get blood work, then when you find out you are ok, use supplements and such. DONT F UP YOUR BODY

(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37