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What should I use to gain muscle?


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Posted by: nectron101

I'm trying to lose fat & gain muscle at the same time..
I'm using Xenadrine EFX " tomorrow my first day" using it..
I need help learning about muscle gain supplements, I'm actually looking for something that make my workouts more effective to the muscles, without screwing up my "weight loss" goal..

If it's a shake, PLEASE mention supplements with good flavor, I tried Xapp & Ultimate Grape, both suck, I can't even swallow them!

Any ideas?


Posted by: Prince

What is your diet like?


Posted by: nectron101

Fat free milk
Fiber cerials "low fat"
Packed tuna "no oil, just water inside"
Grilled chiken breasts
Oranges
Apples
Diet coke "very few times a month"
eggs "no yellows, just the whites"
grilled fish
boiled shrimp
salad "no oil"

but mostly fat free milk+cerials anytime of the day

and by the way I smoke ciggz & Arabian Dry Apples " hobly bubbly"

oh, and I don't want something that (FILLS) my muscles with water I need REAL muslce.

Thanks!


Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally posted by nectron101
oh, and I don't want something that (FILLS) my muscles with water I need REAL muslce.
your body is made up of 70% water.


Posted by: nectron101

Ok! I'm a newbie..
I don't know a lot about body things..

I just need something to help me grow muscles faster..


Posted by: nectron101

I actually heard that many supplements fill the muscles with water instead of real muscle gaining...
and when you stop using them, the muscles get smaller


Posted by: nectron101

So, are there any supplements that increase muscle gain by increasing the effectiveness of workouts?


Posted by: Mudge

Proper sleep patterns, and diet. Make sure you have a good amount of energy when you go to the gym, so you dont get tired half way through, so some oatmeal 30-60 minutes prior would be good.


Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally posted by nectron101
I actually heard that many supplements fill the muscles with water instead of real muscle gaining...
and when you stop using them, the muscles get smaller
Creatine and even Glutamine cause an increase in intra-muscular water retention, and yes if you stop taking them you will lose the water weight.

If you do not consume enough calories you will shrink as well, if you stop training with heavy weight you will shrink also.

There is no quick way to gain muscle, it takes proper diet & nutrition, dedication, and proper training, and most importantly patience.

Rather than spending your time, energy and money looking for a magical supplement (which does not exist) spend it on learning how to eat and train correctly.

You really should read this e-book >> http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=18311


Posted by: nectron101

Uha!

Thanks for the replies, just one more thing...

Does smoking affect muscle gain or fat loss ?


Posted by: dg806

Nothing but hard work will build muscles! And unless you go the illegal route and take steriods, there is no FAST way. It will take years! Quit being in a hurry!


Posted by: derekisdman

Don't smoke. If your already smoking then stop. That's all you need to know.


Posted by: nectron101

I can stop smoking without any problims, I don't really believe that quitting is hard, it's all psychological shit..

But if it's not going to slow my muscle growth, I won't quit till I get married, lol!


Posted by: nectron101

oh!
I don't like using steroids, I think it's hard shit drugz!

What do these supps do?
1- Creatine.
2- Whey Protien.
4- 1-AD.

Thanks for all the replies!


Posted by: oaktownboy

Quote:
Originally posted by nectron101
I can stop smoking without any problims, I don't really believe that quitting is hard, it's all psychological shit..

But if it's not going to slow my muscle growth, I won't quit till I get married, lol!

or until your lungs collapse....



Posted by: nectron101

Heh! looooooooool

Thank god I don't smoke weed!

They should sew 2PAC for advertising about Weed in his albums, sometimes I think about smoking some, then I try to forget about it, I'm a good guy!


Posted by: Prince

Why in the world would you want to smoke in the first place?

It's unhealthy, it's offensive, it's expensive, it makes you stink, your breath smells like an ash tray. I cannot see one reason why anyone would want to partake in such a disgusting habit.


Posted by: nectron101

Uha!
That's a question my friends and I "smokers gang" we still don't have an answer to.. so there is no answer for that question.


Posted by: Prince

Sure there is an answer: DON'T SMOKE! it's stupid.


Posted by: Mudge

If your body is busy fighting off attacks on the immune system from the poisin your putting in your lungs, also affecting your ability to take in oxygen, I think the answer is obvious. You are also taking in particles of heavy metal from the air that hits the tip of the cigarette, which is hot enough to melt said particles floating in the air.

Do you picture standing over a campfire breathing in smoke, a good thing? I dont see how anyone in the world ever saw smoking as something that would not affect health, even if you discount the chemicals they put in the cigarettes.


Posted by: nectron101

Still didn't get an answer!!

What do these supps do?
1- Creatine.
2- Whey Protien.
4- 1-AD.

Thanks for all the replies!


Posted by: Shmoo

Quote:
Originally posted by nectron101
I can stop smoking without any problims, I don't really believe that quitting is hard, it's all psychological shit..

But if it's not going to slow my muscle growth, I won't quit till I get married, lol!

If it is easy for you to quit smoking then why are you still smoking?


Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by nectron101
I don't really believe that quitting is hard, it's all psychological shit..
Isn't that part of quitting?


Posted by: nectron101

Smoking makes me relax, I like it...

Please guys, answer my questions I'm a bigenner


Posted by: ArduousMeister

I think what everyone is trying to say is that there is no magic pill! Eat right, train hard, rest hard.... with time you will get bigger and stronger.


Posted by: Twin Peak

This is an amusing thread, on multiple levels.


Posted by: rock4832

I agree with TP


Posted by: nectron101

Thanks for all the replies!


Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally posted by nectron101
Still didn't get an answer!!

What do these supps do?
1- Creatine.
2- Whey Protien.
4- 1-AD.

Thanks for all the replies!

1- Creatine. >> http://www.ironmagazine.com/review11.html

2- Whey Protien. >> http://www.ironmagazine.com/review18.html

4- 1-AD. >> http://ergopharm.com/product_info.php?productID=2


Posted by: oaktownboy

how about eating like a madman?


Posted by: nectron101

like a madman?? No

I'm overweight!! 225 pounds!!!

I'm not so fat, I'm a XL guy, tall with some fat..


Posted by: nectron101

oh!

and thank you Prince for the helpful reply!

Thanx to ya all


Posted by: buff_tat2d_chick

Quote:
Originally posted by Prince
Why in the world would you want to smoke in the first place?

It's unhealthy, it's offensive, it's expensive, it makes you stink, your breath smells like an ash tray. I cannot see one reason why anyone would want to partake in such a disgusting habit.
ditto! Well said Prince!


Posted by: buff_tat2d_chick

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
This is an amusing thread, on multiple levels.
Many, many levels lol

TP!! How are you man? How did the surgery go and how's the shoulder? I have been wondering about you. Hope all is ok.


Posted by: buff_tat2d_chick

Quote:
Originally posted by nectron101
Smoking makes me relax, I like it...

Please guys, answer my questions I'm a bigenner
Smoking does NOT make you relax...its a stimulant. You think you are relaxed because you are feeding your body the drug its craving.

Ok, so you are a beginner. Do some reading....there is a lot of stuff here in IM....do a search. You wanted help? We gave you our opinions...quite smoking. Bodybuilding will do nothing for you if you are dead.

Other than that...do as the others have all said - eat, sleep and train properly and don't expect it overnight. It doesn't happen.

How old are you? I bet not very old if I had to guess.


Posted by: nectron101

Yeah!

I was going to take some pics of myself to post, I went to my car to get the digital camera, and I discovered that someone stole it!!
he/they also stole a CD collection worth 200 bucks!!

shit, I'm not in a good mood


Posted by: buff_tat2d_chick

Quote:
Originally posted by nectron101
Yeah!

I was going to take some pics of myself to post, I went to my car to get the digital camera, and I discovered that someone stole it!!
he/they also stole a CD collection worth 200 bucks!!

shit, I'm not in a good mood




Posted by: nectron101

Woops!
That's enough, don't want anyone to analyize this crime, that's gonna be another level! lol


Posted by: buff_tat2d_chick



sheeesh


Posted by: nectron101

Thank god they didn't steal the whole car from the garage also, it's worth a fortune 30,000 dollars!


Posted by: nectron101

Buff Chick...

I'm 19, but when you see my pictures
( you'll get in love, lol) & you'll think I'm older...
ya know stress and HOT, humid, sunny, dusty weather all the year makes people look older, lose hair, etc...


Posted by: rock4832

And how do you eat like a madman?


Posted by: nectron101

Ask oaktownboy


Posted by: oaktownboy

Quote:
Originally posted by nectron101
like a madman?? No

I'm overweight!! 225 pounds!!!

I'm not so fat, I'm a XL guy, tall with some fat..

Alright we need to clear some things up.First, you said u want to gain muscle.Now you say you are too fat.So, which path are you going to travel? cutting or bulking? you can't do both.You are either trying to gain or trying to lose the fat.Maybe instead of putting on, you should try to lean out and cut the fat.the whole point of cutting is to see the well earned muscle gained during the bulking stage. so u need to make up ur mind dawg



Posted by: Mudge

I think you can do both, you just have to live with slower progress. For someone just starting out though they should be able to add muscle on a reasonably clean diet.


Posted by: oaktownboy

but it makes a big difference concerning the amount of carbs he eats which path he takes


Posted by: Par Deus

Tobacco, has some GABA activating compounds, plus nicotine bind acetylcholine receptors, which is anxiolytic, so it does have some relaxing mechanism.

Dopamine is also relaxing/satiating to many.


Posted by: nectron101

Uha!!

Okay, are Cell-Tech (and/or) Nitro-Tech any good for improving muscle growth ?

I don't want something that messes up my fat-loss plan.


Posted by: nectron101

Oh!
And I'm not really new to bodybuilding, been excercising for 5 months, lost about 19 pounds ( wasn't serious about diet plan ).

I go to the GYM 7 days a week for an hour daily...
First, I start Cycling for 10-15 mins, then I hit the weights...

First Day:
Chest+Biceps
Second Day:
Back+Triceps
Third Day: Lowerbody+Shoulders

Repeat...

Is this good ?


Posted by: oaktownboy

u need way more rest You should work each bp once every 5 days.You grow outside of the gym.Also, please don't buy anything Muscletech. A word of advice:
///Muscletech= average product for maximal price

Just get regular creatine and mix it with dextrose!


Posted by: nectron101

Regular Creatine, no prob!

Why is Muscle Tech doing toooo much Ads ?? where do they get the money from?!

What do you suggest specifically ? "What do you use?"


Posted by: oaktownboy

for creatine products try V-12 by S.A.N. or Vitargo CGL by Nutrex


Posted by: nectron101

Okay! thankx


Posted by: oaktownboy

with these u don't need to add dextrose..


Posted by: oaktownboy

that's why i recommend them They are "superior" creatine products.


Posted by: nectron101

alright, but I don't think that I can find them in GNC in my country, these things are VERY RARE, and VERY EXPENSIVE!!

Is there something equavalent that GNC sells ?


Posted by: nectron101

These are available in GNC in this stupid area...
1- Mega Mass 2000
2- Nitro Tech.
3- Cell Tech.
4- Creatine 6000-ES "By Muscletech"
5- Designer Whey.

That's all I can find, related to muscle mass/growth..
it's like a Muscle Tech store only
Is there something that does the job?



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