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Posted by: aggies1ut

Is 1fast400 the only place where you can buy leptigen? They've been out of stock for about a week and I'm anxious to try it after seeing such positive feedback.



Posted by: Jodi

You can buy at www.avantlabs.com



Posted by: aggies1ut

Thanks Jodi .



Posted by: Twin Peak

1fast does not carry it yet (he had the old prototype way back when). It is currently only available directly from Avant.



Posted by: aggies1ut

Okay, so I got the leptigen today. Other than Crystal Light, what does everyone mix it with? How about mixing it with your protein shakes. Would that be errective, as well diguise the taste?



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by aggies1ut
Okay, so I got the leptigen today. Other than Crystal Light, what does everyone mix it with? How about mixing it with your protein shakes. Would that be errective, as well diguise the taste?
Tastes gross

I highly suggest Lemonade Crystal Light.



Posted by: Twin Peak

Its *okay* in protein shakes. The Nectars work nicely, as does ICE.

But, when dieting, LG is most effective when used between meals.



Posted by: aggies1ut

Between meals. Got it.



Posted by: dsade

Quote:
Originally posted by aggies1ut
Okay, so I got the leptigen today. Other than Crystal Light, what does everyone mix it with? How about mixing it with your protein shakes. Would that be errective, as well diguise the taste?

LEPTIGELL-O

one package of Jell-o, any flavor
40 grams of Leptigen
2 cups boiling water
2 cups cold water


Prepare as directed.


1 cup of LeptiGell-o will yield a 10 grams serving of Leptigen.


Not only does this taste really good, but it also satisfies the urge to "eat" something, further diminishing the cravings.



Posted by: aggies1ut

I am at 15-18% bf right now, female, around 105 lbs, 5 feet tall. Is is best to take 1 tbs. all at once or a 1 tsp. 3x a day? For those of you that have taken leptigen, how long did it take before you felt the results?



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by dsade
LEPTIGELL-O

one package of Jell-o, any flavor
40 grams of Leptigen
2 cups boiling water
2 cups cold water


Prepare as directed.


1 cup of LeptiGell-o will yield a 10 grams serving of Leptigen.


Not only does this taste really good, but it also satisfies the urge to "eat" something, further diminishing the cravings.
TP - Can I have this



Posted by: dsade

Oh yeah...I forgot to mention...should be SUGAR-FREE Jello



Posted by: Jodi

So thats 4 T. of Leptigen right?



Posted by: Twin Peak

Matt, wtf are you doing here? Good to see you bud.

Jodi, after the comp.

Aggie, what is your dieting history? I'd say 3 TBSP per day, between meals to start. I'll let the unbiased chime in on how quickly it works.



Posted by: Twin Peak

40 grams = 4 TBSP.

Okay, you can have it once per week.



Posted by: aggies1ut

I'm basically low carb, with carb ups.



Posted by: Twin Peak

I meant how long, etc....



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Matt, wtf are you doing here? Good to see you bud.

Jodi, after the comp.

Aggie, what is your dieting history? I'd say 3 TBSP per day, between meals to start. I'll let the unbiased chime in on how quickly it works.
You will be less hungry within a day or 2. For me it worked within a day



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
40 grams = 4 TBSP.

Okay, you can have it once per week.




Posted by: aggies1ut

I've been low-carb., with carb ups for about 6 months.



Posted by: dsade

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Matt, wtf are you doing here? Good to see you bud.
Wherever TP is torturing poor, unsuspecting women with his No Carb Days - I will be there.

Wherever the demand for a jiggly, fruit flavored metabolic snack is heard - I will be there.

Wherever there is free beer at the door - I will DEFINITELY be there.

I think you mentioned that you spent some time here, and I always like to check out different boards. This one seems very friendly. :



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by dsade
Wherever TP is torturing poor, unsuspecting women with his No Carb Days - I will be there.

Wherever the demand for a jiggly, fruit flavored metabolic snack is heard - I will be there.

Wherever there is free beer at the door - I will DEFINITELY be there.

I think you mentioned that you spent some time here, and I always like to check out different boards. This one seems very friendly. :
Welcome aboard!



Posted by: Twin Peak

Matt, as I said, good to see you.

Aggie...you might want to go 4 per day, but at least 3.



Posted by: aggies1ut

Between law school, the gym, planning meals, and prepping food, I'm seriously going to be lacking sleep.



Posted by: Twin Peak

Bah. I competed in two bodybuilding shows during law school. Where are you going? What year? Interview session is upon us.



Posted by: aggies1ut

I am going to Thomas Jefferson School of Law in Old Town, San Diego.... I will be starting my first year tomorrow.



Posted by: Twin Peak

Ah, good luck, and have fun.

I graduated in 98.



Posted by: aggies1ut

Where did you go to school and what type of law did you specialize in? I hear the first year is the most rigorous and you get out, maybe twice the whole year....



Posted by: Twin Peak

Went to Duke.

I am a litigator by trade, but work with dietary supplement companies like Avant on all things legal. I serve as Avant's outside general counsel, for example.



Posted by: aggies1ut

Wow, good school. Any advice or tips that'll come in handy during the first year?



Posted by: Twin Peak

Study.

Get some good study partners.

Study.

Keep ahead in terms of work.

Study.



Posted by: aggies1ut

I'm already scared to death of law school and I haven't even started.



Posted by: Twin Peak

Its fun. Seriously.



Posted by: aggies1ut

I dunno........Gasp, I just hope that I don't get kicked out. lol



Posted by: mm2e

does it taste ok plain, or do you need to add stuff for flavor?



Posted by: Jodi

It tastes nasty if you don't add flavor.



Posted by: Twin Peak

You need to add flavor, for now. Our retail version will have flavor. I just got to taste the tropical punch last night, and it wasn't bad.



Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

Quote:
Originally posted by aggies1ut
Other than Crystal Light, what does everyone mix it with? How about mixing it with your protein shakes. Would that be errective, as well diguise the taste?
I haven't noticed any difference in erections, but as others have said, the lemonade flavor of Crystal Light masks the taste very well.



Posted by: Twin Peak

Cap'n since when did you get some? I haven't heard your thoughts.



Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

I started taking it Friday, Aug 8. For the first few days, I was taking it with a mid-afternoon protein drink. The first day, I felt nothing. The next couple of days, there was a reduced feeling hunger, but it lasted only a couple of hours.

I then switched to drinking it with Crystal Light lemonade, late afternoon, just before leaving work. As far as hunger suppression goes, it seemed to have more of an effect this way. My biggest problem is the early evening munchies, right after having eaten dinner, when I want to eat anything and everything sweet. Taking the Leptigen has helped most nights, but not all.

After about a week of one dose per day, I started taking two per day. The first one is mid to late morning, about an hour and a half before eating lunch. The second one is still late afternoon, about an hour and half before dinner. This dosing has worked much better for me with respect to avoiding sweets. Also, calories are down somewhat, but I'm not keeping an exact journal. I could plug a couple of days worth of meals into Fitday to get a better feel of what I'm consuming. I do know what I was eating prior to starting the Leptigen, so I can give you details if you want them.

Workouts are still going good - no noticeable lack of energy in the gym. There's been no bloatedness, excess gas, or headaches as others have mentioned.

Did I miss anything?



Posted by: Twin Peak

Sounds good. Since the hunger supression is merely a side effect of keeping leptin levels elevated with a reduced calorie intake and sending a comensurate FED signal to the body, you just may need a higher dose (which you have done). Dosing is highly individualized, and you will get a feel for when more is necessary (as you get leaner and/or your caloric deficit becomes more severe).



Posted by: aggies1ut

Ya'll know that was a typo and that I meant "effective."



Posted by: Twin Peak

Lawyers use words with precision.



Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

I think aggies comment was directed towards me. Yes, I knew what you meant, but I just couldn't resist.



Posted by: aggies1ut

TP, just curious, but why do you suggest that I start at 3 tbs. per day?



Posted by: aggies1ut

And as far as precision goes, lol, maybe that's why I'm scared to death of getting kicked out.



Posted by: Par Deus

Quote:
Originally posted by aggies1ut
TP, just curious, but why do you suggest that I start at 3 tbs. per day?
Dosing:

Males
<6% BF =
5 tablespoons/day

6-9% BF =
4 tablespoons/day

9-12% BF =
3 tablespoons/day

12-15% BF =
2 tablespoons/day

15-20% BF =
1 tablespoons/day

>20% BF =
0 tablespoons/day


Females
Add 1 tablespoon to corresponding male dosages. Do not use until under 25% BF, unless you have dieted at least 8 weeks.


So, you would want at least 2 TBSP/day, and the fact that you do low carb dieting, and have been dieting for a while suggests a higher dose could be fruitful.



Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by Par Deus
So, you would want at least 2 TBSP/day, and the fact that you do low carb dieting, and have been dieting for a while suggests a higher dose could be fruitful.
Thanks PD. This was why.



Posted by: Pepper

Question for you guys...I am current +20% BF which according to the legend, I should not be taking the product.

I have been dieting since February and am down about 50 lbs. It is my opinion that I now face the same diet issues regarding metabolism as someone with a much lower BF%.

So, I take 3 tablespoons a day....

Is this a reasonable plan?



Posted by: Twin Peak

Yes, pepper it is.

As I am fond of say, those are general guidelines. Individual use will vary depending on bidy type, length of dieting, amount of caloric deficit, and how far below your bodytype you are.

I'd stay the course, were I you, and when you felt your hunger start to return on a regular basis, up it some more.

Not sure if I mentioned it in this thread, put the Tropical Punch is pretty damn good, and it should be ready in final retail version shortly.



Posted by: Pepper

I am much, much less sensitive to the taste now. I have no idea why. I have substantially reduced the amount of Crystal Light used to mix with my dose.

I associate the smell now with not being hungry all the time.

I am not willing to draw this conclusion yet, but I do see signs added muscle/strength. I think this may explain why my weight graph was flat. I seem to have less fat at the same weight.



Posted by: Twin Peak

Recomposition is best anyway. Despite your length of dieting LG can certainly take you from your catabolic state to your anabolic state. That is no suprise, and many others are reporting dramatic strength gains whiel dieting.

If this continues, and you have fat loss as a priority, it means that leptigen will support a greater caloric deficit.



Posted by: Twin Peak

"Leptigen, so powerful that the smell alone will kill your appetite!"

What do you think?



Posted by: Pepper

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
"Leptigen, so powerful that the smell alone will kill your appetite!"

What do you think?

There is some truth to that!

It tends to settle in your glass so if you are not REAL diligent about stirring, you get one nasty last sip!



Posted by: Mike51

its not that bad......I just use water....I kinda like the taste now



Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by Mike51
its not that bad......I just use water....I kinda like the taste now
Sicko.

Damn, LG users are coming out of the woodwork, I am going to start a thread asking for your feedback.



Posted by: dsade

Quote:
Originally posted by Pepper
There is some truth to that!

It tends to settle in your glass so if you are not REAL diligent about stirring, you get one nasty last sip!
I use a hand blender - If I use a scoop of unflavored Milk Isolate, and some Pineapple-orange crystal light, it foams up and tastes just like an Orange Julius.

It ends up satisfying me psychologically as well.




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